EWU vs MSU

[CDAGRIZ]

A three-way tie for third hangs a championship banner in Bozeman. We've all been around long enough to know this.

MSU invented the "Participation Trophy".

Look it up.

Holy shit! I thought you were joking, but you're right! HAHA!

From a wiki:

A participation trophy is a tangible, durable reminder of a specific achievement of participation, and serves as recognition or evidence of participation. Participation trophies are often awarded for sporting events, mainly in youth sports.

Trophy History
Originally the word trophy, derived from the Greek tropaion, referred to arms, standards, other property, or human captives and body parts (e.g., headhunting) captured in battle. These war trophies commemorated the military victories of a state, army or individual combatant. Modernly, trophies ordinarily signify merit in competition. Conversely, a participation trophy is given for merely participating in an event of any kind, sporting or otherwise.

Participation
The history of the participation trophy can be traced back to the mid-20th century when the coach of the Montana State University football team, Wally Lemm, felt his team played well enough for a trophy, but did not win enough contests to warrant the awarding of one. The 1955 Montana State Bobcat football team achieved a 4-4-1 record on the season, but had several close losses, and could have easily gone 7-1-1. Lemm awarded trophies to his team engraved simply with "Bobcat Effort". Though the trophies were appreciated, players and media playfully mocked them, calling them "trophies for just showing up" and "participation slugs". Lemm, himself, even admitted that the trophies were something of a "gag" among his tight-knit 1955 squad. Eventually, the name "Participation Trophy" stuck.

 

[hm.grwn.grizfan]

A three-way tie for third hangs a championship banner in Bozeman. We've all been around long enough to know this.

MSU invented the "Participation Trophy".

Look it up.

Holy shit! I thought you were joking, but you're right! HAHA!

From a wiki:

A participation trophy is a tangible, durable reminder of a specific achievement of participation, and serves as recognition or evidence of participation. Participation trophies are often awarded for sporting events, mainly in youth sports.

Trophy History
Originally the word trophy, derived from the Greek tropaion, referred to arms, standards, other property, or human captives and body parts (e.g., headhunting) captured in battle. These war trophies commemorated the military victories of a state, army or individual combatant. Modernly, trophies ordinarily signify merit in competition. Conversely, a participation trophy is given for merely participating in an event of any kind, sporting or otherwise.

Participation
The history of the participation trophy can be traced back to the mid-20th century when the coach of the Montana State University football team, Wally Lemm, felt his team played well enough for a trophy, but did not win enough contests to warrant the awarding of one. The 1955 Montana State Bobcat football team achieved a 4-4-1 record on the season, but had several close losses, and could have easily gone 7-1-1. Lemm awarded trophies to his team engraved simply with "Bobcat Effort". Though the trophies were appreciated, players and media playfully mocked them, calling them "trophies for just showing up" and "participation slugs". Lemm, himself, even admitted that the trophies were something of a "gag" among his tight-knit 1955 squad. Eventually, the name "Participation Trophy" stuck.

Haha, this has to be a joke right? If not it deserves its own thread. Think of the myriad spinoff thread possibilities.


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[hilinegrizfan]

A three-way tie for third hangs a championship banner in Bozeman. We've all been around long enough to know this.

MSU invented the "Participation Trophy".

Look it up.

Holy shit! I thought you were joking, but you're right! HAHA!

From a wiki:

A participation trophy is a tangible, durable reminder of a specific achievement of participation, and serves as recognition or evidence of participation. Participation trophies are often awarded for sporting events, mainly in youth sports.

Trophy History
Originally the word trophy, derived from the Greek tropaion, referred to arms, standards, other property, or human captives and body parts (e.g., headhunting) captured in battle. These war trophies commemorated the military victories of a state, army or individual combatant. Modernly, trophies ordinarily signify merit in competition. Conversely, a participation trophy is given for merely participating in an event of any kind, sporting or otherwise.

Participation
The history of the participation trophy can be traced back to the mid-20th century when the coach of the Montana State University football team, Wally Lemm, felt his team played well enough for a trophy, but did not win enough contests to warrant the awarding of one. The 1955 Montana State Bobcat football team achieved a 4-4-1 record on the season, but had several close losses, and could have easily gone 7-1-1. Lemm awarded trophies to his team engraved simply with "Bobcat Effort". Though the trophies were appreciated, players and media playfully mocked them, calling them "trophies for just showing up" and "participation slugs". Lemm, himself, even admitted that the trophies were something of a "gag" among his tight-knit 1955 squad. Eventually, the name "Participation Trophy" stuck.

Haha, this has to be a joke right? If not it deserves its own thread. Think of the myriad spinoff thread possibilities.


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wow this is a great discovery. made my day

 

[AZGrizFan]

A three-way tie for third hangs a championship banner in Bozeman. We've all been around long enough to know this.

MSU invented the "Participation Trophy".

Look it up.

Holy shit! I thought you were joking, but you're right! HAHA!

From a wiki:

A participation trophy is a tangible, durable reminder of a specific achievement of participation, and serves as recognition or evidence of participation. Participation trophies are often awarded for sporting events, mainly in youth sports.

Trophy History
Originally the word trophy, derived from the Greek tropaion, referred to arms, standards, other property, or human captives and body parts (e.g., headhunting) captured in battle. These war trophies commemorated the military victories of a state, army or individual combatant. Modernly, trophies ordinarily signify merit in competition. Conversely, a participation trophy is given for merely participating in an event of any kind, sporting or otherwise.

Participation
The history of the participation trophy can be traced back to the mid-20th century when the coach of the Montana State University football team, Wally Lemm, felt his team played well enough for a trophy, but did not win enough contests to warrant the awarding of one. The 1955 Montana State Bobcat football team achieved a 4-4-1 record on the season, but had several close losses, and could have easily gone 7-1-1. Lemm awarded trophies to his team engraved simply with "Bobcat Effort". Though the trophies were appreciated, players and media playfully mocked them, calling them "trophies for just showing up" and "participation slugs". Lemm, himself, even admitted that the trophies were something of a "gag" among his tight-knit 1955 squad. Eventually, the name "Participation Trophy" stuck.

Come on, man. Joking? You can't shit a shitter. I'm dead serious.

 

[EverettGriz]

A three-way tie for third hangs a championship banner in Bozeman. We've all been around long enough to know this.

MSU invented the "Participation Trophy".

Look it up.

Holy shit! I thought you were joking, but you're right! HAHA!

From a wiki:

A participation trophy is a tangible, durable reminder of a specific achievement of participation, and serves as recognition or evidence of participation. Participation trophies are often awarded for sporting events, mainly in youth sports.

Trophy History
Originally the word trophy, derived from the Greek tropaion, referred to arms, standards, other property, or human captives and body parts (e.g., headhunting) captured in battle. These war trophies commemorated the military victories of a state, army or individual combatant. Modernly, trophies ordinarily signify merit in competition. Conversely, a participation trophy is given for merely participating in an event of any kind, sporting or otherwise.

Participation
The history of the participation trophy can be traced back to the mid-20th century when the coach of the Montana State University football team, Wally Lemm, felt his team played well enough for a trophy, but did not win enough contests to warrant the awarding of one. The 1955 Montana State Bobcat football team achieved a 4-4-1 record on the season, but had several close losses, and could have easily gone 7-1-1. Lemm awarded trophies to his team engraved simply with "Bobcat Effort". Though the trophies were appreciated, players and media playfully mocked them, calling them "trophies for just showing up" and "participation slugs". Lemm, himself, even admitted that the trophies were something of a "gag" among his tight-knit 1955 squad. Eventually, the name "Participation Trophy" stuck.

Come on, man. Joking? You can't shit a shitter. I'm dead serious.

Perhaps not. But evidently you can cover a shitter. The kittens did it with player's faces once.

 

[77matcat]

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[ilovethecats]

funny read.

cats are easy to figure out this year. they're just not there yet.

they are a decent team, but make too many mistakes and can't win close games. ideally this is better next season.

we have 5 games left. I expect all of them to be competitive including northern Colorado unfortunately. on the plus side I think we can be competitive with everyone remaining.

I will say I bet we didn't think Kennesaw state was gonna be a playoff contender when we scheduled them!

 

[PlayerRep]

funny read.

cats are easy to figure out this year. they're just not there yet.

they are a decent team, but make too many mistakes and can't win close games. ideally this is better next season.

we have 5 games left. I expect all of them to be competitive including northern Colorado unfortunately. on the plus side I think we can be competitive with everyone remaining.

I will say I bet we didn't think Kennesaw state was gonna be a playoff contender when we scheduled them!

I was told after last season that the Cats were still one more year away from being in the ballpark where they wanted to be. Seems consistent with what you just said. I followed the Cats a bit more last year. Have just glanced at scores and an article or two in the last month or so, so don't have a good feeling for what's going on. At this point, I am still concerned for the Griz in the Cat game, but maybe the Griz will continue to win and show that they are a team to be reckoned with. Thx for the report.

 

[ilovethecats]

funny read.

cats are easy to figure out this year. they're just not there yet.

they are a decent team, but make too many mistakes and can't win close games. ideally this is better next season.

we have 5 games left. I expect all of them to be competitive including northern Colorado unfortunately. on the plus side I think we can be competitive with everyone remaining.

I will say I bet we didn't think Kennesaw state was gonna be a playoff contender when we scheduled them!

I was told after last season that the Cats were still one more year away from being in the ballpark where they wanted to be. Seems consistent with what you just said. I followed the Cats a bit more last year. Have just glanced at scores and an article or two in the last month or so, so don't have a good feeling for what's going on. At this point, I am still concerned for the Griz in the Cat game, but maybe the Griz will continue to win and show that they are a team to be reckoned with. Thx for the report.

pretty much what I was hearing last year too PR.

as a fan it's just hard not to go into every season maybe more optimistic than you should be! I'll admit, after our game against Washington State I was thinking this season might not be as rough as I was thinking! And even after SDSU I was thinking we really just hurt ourselves and should have won that game!

the thing is, if after every game you're telling yourself we "should" have won....you shouldn't have won. these trends don't lie. good teams find ways to win. we just haven't showed that yet.

winning out appears to be a pipe dream. it's not going to happen. but man, if we could win even three of the next five i'd be cautiously optimistic of where we are as a program going into next year. but we have a way to go.

 

[poorgriz]

funny read.

cats are easy to figure out this year. they're just not there yet.

they are a decent team, but make too many mistakes and can't win close games. ideally this is better next season.

we have 5 games left. I expect all of them to be competitive including northern Colorado unfortunately. on the plus side I think we can be competitive with everyone remaining.

I will say I bet we didn't think Kennesaw state was gonna be a playoff contender when we scheduled them!

I was told after last season that the Cats were still one more year away from being in the ballpark where they wanted to be. Seems consistent with what you just said. I followed the Cats a bit more last year. Have just glanced at scores and an article or two in the last month or so, so don't have a good feeling for what's going on. At this point, I am still concerned for the Griz in the Cat game, but maybe the Griz will continue to win and show that they are a team to be reckoned with. Thx for the report.

pretty much what I was hearing last year too PR.

as a fan it's just hard not to go into every season maybe more optimistic than you should be! I'll admit, after our game against Washington State I was thinking this season might not be as rough as I was thinking! And even after SDSU I was thinking we really just hurt ourselves and should have won that game!

the thing is, if after every game you're telling yourself we "should" have won....you shouldn't have won. these trends don't lie. good teams find ways to win. we just haven't showed that yet.

winning out appears to be a pipe dream. it's not going to happen. but man, if we could win even three of the next five i'd be cautiously optimistic of where we are as a program going into next year. but we have a way to go.

The CATS will win at least 3 more games and you can take that to the bank! :thumb: In fact my personal opinion is we will beat UNC and ISU handily, as we did against UND. Kennesaw could be a brawl and I'm thinking we'll finally win a close game in that one at home. I have us losing to NAU. Cat\griz is a tossup at this point as neither team has proven they can beat a good team. MSU literally had chances to take over and wing the game in all three of our losses but just hasn't learned how to do that yet.

 

[Htowngriz]

Yeah, poor, we've already covered how many high quality losses you've had (4, btw). No need to beat a dead cat.

 

[hilinegrizfan]

Choates most successful play in the cats playbook: murray drops back to pass but can't, and runs for his life. kicked our ass last year with that innovative play call

 

[wbtfg]

Choates most successful play in the cats playbook: murray drops back to pass but can't, and runs for his life. kicked our ass last year with that innovative play call

Those were actually called qb draws.

since UM dline kept lining up in 2pt stance and losing pad level and rushing lanes so msu kept calling qb draw.


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[hilinegrizfan]

Choates most successful play in the cats playbook: murray drops back to pass but can't, and runs for his life. kicked our ass last year with that innovative play call

Those were actually called qb draws.

since UM dline kept lining up in 2pt stance and losing pad level and rushing lanes so msu kept calling qb draw.


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ya, no shit. I'm saying the kid can't throw a ball to save his life and their best play to date is "murray run wherever"

 

[PlayerRep]

funny read.

cats are easy to figure out this year. they're just not there yet.

they are a decent team, but make too many mistakes and can't win close games. ideally this is better next season.

we have 5 games left. I expect all of them to be competitive including northern Colorado unfortunately. on the plus side I think we can be competitive with everyone remaining.

I will say I bet we didn't think Kennesaw state was gonna be a playoff contender when we scheduled them!

I was told after last season that the Cats were still one more year away from being in the ballpark where they wanted to be. Seems consistent with what you just said. I followed the Cats a bit more last year. Have just glanced at scores and an article or two in the last month or so, so don't have a good feeling for what's going on. At this point, I am still concerned for the Griz in the Cat game, but maybe the Griz will continue to win and show that they are a team to be reckoned with. Thx for the report.

pretty much what I was hearing last year too PR.

as a fan it's just hard not to go into every season maybe more optimistic than you should be! I'll admit, after our game against Washington State I was thinking this season might not be as rough as I was thinking! And even after SDSU I was thinking we really just hurt ourselves and should have won that game!

the thing is, if after every game you're telling yourself we "should" have won....you shouldn't have won. these trends don't lie. good teams find ways to win. we just haven't showed that yet.

winning out appears to be a pipe dream. it's not going to happen. but man, if we could win even three of the next five i'd be cautiously optimistic of where we are as a program going into next year. but we have a way to go.

Agreed, on all counts.

Of course, I'm also a good loss guy too, sometimes. Close or good losses are not wins, but they are better than blowouts and bad losses and a number of them can indicate a decent team or a team on the rise, but, as you said, a bunch of them also confirm that the team isn't a good team.

 

[hm.grwn.grizfan]

If we turn to stats to determine whose trending where, the picture becomes a bit more clear. Since 2013 MSU is 26-27. 7-5, 8-5, 5-6, 4-7, 2-4 so far in 2017. During that same period UM went 38-20. 10-3, 9-5, 8-5, 6-5, 5-2 so far in 2017. The next few weeks should give a better indicator in regard to where each program is trending. MSU has had some bad years recently, whereas Montana has had what most other programs would consider good/average seasons. The jury is still out for both coaches, but if we’re talking strictly numbers and not conjecture, stitt is currently doing better.


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[bigsky33]

If we turn to stats to determine whose trending where, the picture becomes a bit more clear. Since 2013 MSU is 26-27. 7-5, 8-5, 5-6, 4-7, 2-4 so far in 2017. During that same period UM went 38-20. 10-3, 9-5, 8-5, 6-5, 5-2 so far in 2017. The next few weeks should give a better indicator in regard to where each program is trending. MSU has had some bad years recently, whereas Montana has had what most other programs would consider good/average seasons. The jury is still out for both coaches, but if we’re talking strictly numbers and not conjecture, stitt is currently doing better.


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What is the record of UM with ranked teams or those with winning records?


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[George Ferguson]

If we turn to stats to determine whose trending where, the picture becomes a bit more clear. Since 2013 MSU is 26-27. 7-5, 8-5, 5-6, 4-7, 2-4 so far in 2017. During that same period UM went 38-20. 10-3, 9-5, 8-5, 6-5, 5-2 so far in 2017. The next few weeks should give a better indicator in regard to where each program is trending. MSU has had some bad years recently, whereas Montana has had what most other programs would consider good/average seasons. The jury is still out for both coaches, but if we’re talking strictly numbers and not conjecture, stitt is currently doing better.


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What is the record of UM with ranked teams or those with winning records?


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Right off the top of my head I can think of four, just since Stitt has been here. North Dakota State, Eastern Washington, South Dakota State and Northern Iowa. Off the top of my head that is four more RANKED teams than the Cats have beaten in that same time frame.

 

[Copper Griz]

Choates most successful play in the cats playbook: murray drops back to pass but can't, and runs for his life. kicked our ass last year with that innovative play call

Those were actually called qb draws.

since UM dline kept lining up in 2pt stance and losing pad level and rushing lanes so msu kept calling qb draw.


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ya, no shit. I'm saying the kid can't throw a ball to save his life and their best play to date is "murray run wherever"

Really, you can't overstate how one dimensional the Cats are this year and last year for that matter, which makes the Griz loss even more embarrassing. Murray will throw picks if he has to pass or he will throw quite a few incompletions. He had a good game against SDSU in the second half. Realistically, the Cats will be switching to Rovig next year or that win loss trend will continue.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Choates most successful play in the cats playbook: murray drops back to pass but can't, and runs for his life. kicked our ass last year with that innovative play call

Those were actually called qb draws.

since UM dline kept lining up in 2pt stance and losing pad level and rushing lanes so msu kept calling qb draw.


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ya, no shit. I'm saying the kid can't throw a ball to save his life and their best play to date is "murray run wherever"

Really, you can't overstate how one dimensional the Cats are this year and last year for that matter, which makes the Griz loss even more embarrassing. Murray will throw picks if he has to pass or he will throw quite a few incompletions. He had a good game against SDSU in the second half. Realistically, the Cats will be switching to Rovig next year or that win loss trend will continue.

Well, the beauty of it is I don't think the scat's defense is holding THIS offense to 7 points.