EWU vs MSU

[GoldenEagle]

Choates most successful play in the cats playbook: murray drops back to pass but can't, and runs for his life. kicked our ass last year with that innovative play call

Those were actually called qb draws.

since UM dline kept lining up in 2pt stance and losing pad level and rushing lanes so msu kept calling qb draw.


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ya, no shit. I'm saying the kid can't throw a ball to save his life and their best play to date is "murray run wherever"

In reality, he threw some good balls against the EAGS. He is more consistent than last year. Also, the Bobcats have some receivers that can vertically stretch a defense. So, if your secondary has to adjust to some deep balls you will likely see him running wild in your secondary. I would say hold onto your asses griz when you go to Bozeman.

 

[CatGrad-UMGradStu]

Choates most successful play in the cats playbook: murray drops back to pass but can't, and runs for his life. kicked our ass last year with that innovative play call

Those were actually called qb draws.

since UM dline kept lining up in 2pt stance and losing pad level and rushing lanes so msu kept calling qb draw.


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ya, no shit. I'm saying the kid can't throw a ball to save his life and their best play to date is "murray run wherever"

In reality, he threw some good balls against the EAGS. He is more consistent than last year. Also, the Bobcats have some receivers that can vertically stretch a defense. So, if your secondary has to adjust to some deep balls you will likely see him running wild in your secondary. I would say hold onto your asses griz when you go to Bozeman.

He's really decent. But the Cats have to have the worst OL in the conference! And their DL and linebackers? I could have put my grandmother in a wheelchair when she was alive out there and she could have blocked the Cat DL.

 

[stonecrest]

If we turn to stats to determine whose trending where, the picture becomes a bit more clear. Since 2013 MSU is 26-27. 7-5, 8-5, 5-6, 4-7, 2-4 so far in 2017. During that same period UM went 38-20. 10-3, 9-5, 8-5, 6-5, 5-2 so far in 2017. The next few weeks should give a better indicator in regard to where each program is trending. MSU has had some bad years recently, whereas Montana has had what most other programs would consider good/average seasons. The jury is still out for both coaches, but if we’re talking strictly numbers and not conjecture, stitt is currently doing better.


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What is the record of UM with ranked teams or those with winning records?


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Right off the top of my head I can think of four, just since Stitt has been here. North Dakota State, Eastern Washington, South Dakota State and Northern Iowa. Off the top of my head that is four more RANKED teams than the Cats have beaten in that same time frame.

When was the last time the Scats played NDSU... o that's right-there too good for the
PussyChickens to play. That would of been another quality loss to add to your
board.

 

[stonecrest]

I really think bigjoke33 would rather have a so call quality loss than a win. It's all
he talks about. :shock: :shock:

 

[bigsky33]

I really think bigjoke33 would rather have a so call quality loss than a win. It's all
he talks about. :shock: :shock:

Stonedbrain just look at the difference in the schedule this year. Both teams do not have a quality win. Yes, the Griz have a winning record with a much easier schedule so far. But no quality wins over a ranked team the same as the Cats. No, I don’t like quality losses, but I am glad we have a very competitive team against ranked competition. It is an indication that we are not that far off a very good team. At this point both the Griz and Cats have to prove they can win against a ranked team.


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[Bear Axed]

I really think bigjoke33 would rather have a so call quality loss than a win. It's all
he talks about. :shock: :shock:

Stonedbrain just look at the difference in the schedule this year. Both teams do not have a quality win. Yes, the Griz have a winning record with a much easier schedule so far. But no quality wins over a ranked team the same as the Cats. No, I don’t like quality losses, but I am glad we have a very competitive team against ranked competition. It is an indication that we are not that far off a very good team. At this point both the Griz and Cats have to prove they can win against a ranked team.


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No matter how you add it up.....the kittens are just 2-4 and Trending

 

[bigsky33]

I really think bigjoke33 would rather have a so call quality loss than a win. It's all
he talks about. :shock: :shock:

Stonedbrain just look at the difference in the schedule this year. Both teams do not have a quality win. Yes, the Griz have a winning record with a much easier schedule so far. But no quality wins over a ranked team the same as the Cats. No, I don’t like quality losses, but I am glad we have a very competitive team against ranked competition. It is an indication that we are not that far off a very good team. At this point both the Griz and Cats have to prove they can win against a ranked team.


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No matter how you add it up.....the kittens are just 2-4 and Trending

Yes the Cats are 2-4 and can still do a lot of damage to teams with play off hopes. That includes the Griz.


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[Diesel]

I really think bigjoke33 would rather have a so call quality loss than a win. It's all
he talks about. :shock: :shock:

Stonedbrain just look at the difference in the schedule this year. Both teams do not have a quality win. Yes, the Griz have a winning record with a much easier schedule so far. But no quality wins over a ranked team the same as the Cats. No, I don’t like quality losses, but I am glad we have a very competitive team against ranked competition. It is an indication that we are not that far off a very good team. At this point both the Griz and Cats have to prove they can win against a ranked team.


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No matter how you add it up.....the kittens are just 2-4 and Trending

Yes the Cats are 2-4 and can still do a lot of damage to teams with play off hopes. That includes the Griz.


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Funny as much talk as Pheon had before playing the Griz this year, he later blamed last week's loss on the Griz hangover.
After seeing this post I thought how different programs goals are. ISU and MSU are trying to ruin someone else's season and the Griz are striving to win championships.

 

[CatGrad-UMGradStu]

I really think bigjoke33 would rather have a so call quality loss than a win. It's all
he talks about. :shock: :shock:

Stonedbrain just look at the difference in the schedule this year. Both teams do not have a quality win. Yes, the Griz have a winning record with a much easier schedule so far. But no quality wins over a ranked team the same as the Cats. No, I don’t like quality losses, but I am glad we have a very competitive team against ranked competition. It is an indication that we are not that far off a very good team. At this point both the Griz and Cats have to prove they can win against a ranked team.


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No matter how you add it up.....the kittens are just 2-4 and Trending

Yes the Cats are 2-4 and can still do a lot of damage to teams with play off hopes. That includes the Griz.


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Given the history of any team in this conference with a Paul Johnson disciple like Brian Bohannon, I'm anxious to see if Ty can plan for the Kennesaw State offense--finally. I don't think he has a very good history with teams like Wofford, etc...This is the one game I've been looking forward to since I saw the former administration scheduled.

Kennesaw is in their third year of football, has a beautiful campus and I suppose they'll fill the small college void in Georgia that exists since Georgia Southern moved up. UMASS was the only team I've seen attack Johnson's option a couple of years before Glenn beat Furman in Chattanooga with...Hope Ty has film from that game...or it is going to be another miserable day.

 

[ilovethecats]

the Griz are striving to win championships.

:?

 

[Htowngriz]

the Griz are striving to win championships.

:?

Yeah, I can see why that would be a hard concept for you to understand. :lol:

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

If we turn to stats to determine whose trending where, the picture becomes a bit more clear. Since 2013 MSU is 26-27. 7-5, 8-5, 5-6, 4-7, 2-4 so far in 2017. During that same period UM went 38-20. 10-3, 9-5, 8-5, 6-5, 5-2 so far in 2017. The next few weeks should give a better indicator in regard to where each program is trending. MSU has had some bad years recently, whereas Montana has had what most other programs would consider good/average seasons. The jury is still out for both coaches, but if we’re talking strictly numbers and not conjecture, stitt is currently doing better.


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What is the record of UM with ranked teams or those with winning records?


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Right off the top of my head I can think of four, just since Stitt has been here. North Dakota State, Eastern Washington, South Dakota State and Northern Iowa. Off the top of my head that is four more RANKED teams than the Cats have beaten in that same time frame.

When was the last time the Scats played NDSU... o that's right-there too good for the
PussyChickens to play. That would of been another quality loss to add to your
board.

You guys obviously havent gotten the memo that stated the Changing of the Guard from MSUs athletice department yet.....

Its likely right on top of their memo to NDSU titled Changing of the Schedule.....


they like to change things a lot.

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

Stonedbrain just look at the difference in the schedule this year. Both teams do not have a quality win. Yes, the Griz have a winning record with a much easier schedule so far. But no quality wins over a ranked team the same as the Cats. No, I don’t like quality losses, but I am glad we have a very competitive team against ranked competition. It is an indication that we are not that far off a very good team. At this point both the Griz and Cats have to prove they can win against a ranked team.


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No matter how you add it up.....the kittens are just 2-4 and Trending

Yes the Cats are 2-4 and can still do a lot of damage to teams with play off hopes. That includes the Griz.


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Given the history of any team in this conference with a Paul Johnson disciple like Brian Bohannon, I'm anxious to see if Ty can plan for the Kennesaw State offense--finally. I don't think he has a very good history with teams like Wofford, etc...This is the one game I've been looking forward to since I saw the former administration scheduled.

Kennesaw is in their third year of football, has a beautiful campus and I suppose they'll fill the small college void in Georgia that exists since Georgia Southern moved up. UMASS was the only team I've seen attack Johnson's option a couple of years before Glenn beat Furman in Chattanooga with...Hope Ty has film from that game...or it is going to be another miserable day.

Cats dont have miserable days..only Good Losses.

 

[Grisly Fan]

The Bobcats are the only team on earth that could finish the season with 2 wins and 9 good losses.

#flatline

 

[ilovethecats]

the Griz are striving to win championships.

:?

Yeah, I can see why that would be a hard concept for you to understand. :lol:

hey if you consider your current state of your university and football program "striving to win championships", who am I to take that away from you?

Idaho state is "striving to win championships" as well. and northern Colorado. and Portland state. and a plethora of schools is my guess.... :thumb:

 

[Mousegriz]

the Griz are striving to win championships.

:?

Yeah, I can see why that would be a hard concept for you to understand. :lol:

hey if you consider your current state of your university and football program "striving to win championships", who am I to take that away from you?

Idaho state is "striving to win championships" as well. and northern Colorado. and Portland state. and a plethora of schools is my guess.... :thumb:

...but not Montana State!?

 

[Htowngriz]

the Griz are striving to win championships.

:?

Yeah, I can see why that would be a hard concept for you to understand. :lol:

hey if you consider your current state of your university and football program "striving to win championships", who am I to take that away from you?

Idaho state is "striving to win championships" as well. and northern Colorado. and Portland state. and a plethora of schools is my guess.... :thumb:

Yawn. Lazy troll is lazy.

 

[Mavman]

MSU has close losses and fans think "we are close and coach is building something". Griz have concrete victories against four very good teams during stitts era and alot of fans want him fired. Had Stitt gone 4-7 first year and 2-4 to start his second he would not get a third! Not saying either fan base is correct in their reactions it just shows a different expectation.
I would say both teams are fairly even with Montana having a slight edge because of an extra year under a new staff.
My questions for cat fans is how much did the victory over the Griz effect the amount of criticism choate was dealt? If he losses at home to Montana will that bring extra pressure into year three? Is any record better than 4-7 mean progress and you all are happy?

 

[poorgriz]

MSU has close losses and fans think "we are close and coach is building something". Griz have concrete victories against four very good teams during stitts era and alot of fans want him fired. Had Stitt gone 4-7 first year and 2-4 to start his second he would not get a third! Not saying either fan base is correct in their reactions it just shows a different expectation.
I would say both teams are fairly even with Montana having a slight edge because of an extra year under a new staff.
My questions for cat fans is how much did the victory over the Griz effect the amount of criticism choate was dealt? If he losses at home to Montana will that bring extra pressure into year three? Is any record better than 4-7 mean progress and you all are happy?

No, we won't be happy until Choate leads us to Big Sky Championships and deep playoff runs. We'll probably end this year at 6-5 but will be in the hunt next year. Ash led the Cats to three consecutive Big Sky titles. Can Choate achieve that or perhaps do better? Time will tell. :thumb:

 

[Mavman]

Thanks poor g.
If you end up 6-5 that will give choate a two year record of 10-12 no playoffs.
Stitt went 13-10 and a playoff victory with 4 top 25 victories.
In the same point in year two choate 6-11, Stitt 13-6 (includes 2 playoff games) Then the meltdown to end season last year.
Neither team is lighting up the Big Sky but I think they are both building something.
Next year both teams should be in the hunt for the BSC title. Although the Griz are not done this year!