EWU Pathetic Fans II

[UMGriz75]

I see comments like this from you, Growler, some others that make the claim that optimistic thinking fans are somehow holding back the program. That is just a crock of $hit. I have never heard or witnessed a scenario where positive thinking fans ever held back a football program. Optimistic outlooks, sugar-coating, whatever you want to call it, does nothing to hurt the program. Period.

I am sure you have an explanation, then, for Brad Huse at Bozeman, how endless the decline was, how humiliating it was for Huse and the players, year after year, and the ultimate destruction of an AD's career, even when he finally made it right. I'd love to hear it.

There is nothing wrong with optimistic fans. That's part of being a fan. There is nothing in that requiring the fan to be irrational, stupid, or delusional, because that has nothing to do with a rational assessment of the coach. Nothing. "That" fan hurts the program, the players, the program and the University.

There is nothing in being a "real fan" that requires dishonesty. To the contrary, a "real" fan supports the players and their success, not the inadequacy of a lower division coach.

 

[polsongrizz]

I just want to request that polsengrizz post in every single thread. He doesn't have to say anything. Just show up.

:flash: :thumb:

 

[Sam A. Blitz]

but, that is the direction of (hopefully) a small number of pseudo-fans that have come to dominate egriz: excuse failure, reward incompetence, and, you know, create that all important public image:

It is amazing to me to see a "fan" base become one of the biggest obstacles to success. We've got one.

I see comments like this from you, Growler, some others that make the claim that optimistic thinking fans are somehow holding back the program. That is just a crock of $hit. I have never heard or witnessed a scenario where positive thinking fans ever held back a football program.

No, what you do is see realistic assessments interfering with your delusions. You resent it. I don't resent the fact you are optimistic. You are not nearly as tolerant. There is a recreational factor in quoting people who knew, absolutely KNEW, that this year was going to be a championship run, because of their assessments of Bob Stitt.

And so what do they (you) do when your predictions are reduced to rubbish? You manage to blame the people that correctly assessed what was likely to happen as being the ones expounding 'the Crock of Shit," even as you hold it, advocate it, and loudly condemn anyone that disagrees with you and ESPECIALLY if they were correct and you were wrong.

We didn't prove your "optimism" wrong, the Coach did. Or are you agreeing with "egriz" club conclusion that it was all Brady's fault? Are you calling that a "Crock of Shit?" Why not?

This is what's wrong with this fan base. It literally cannot understand why Baldwin gets a contract extension for his success. We've got ten or twelve that actually think you get contract extensions for failure. Vocal elements (a minority I am sure) do not know what a "Crock of Shit" really is, and that 3-5, a loss to Cats, and public condemnations of the team by the Coach as "lacking fire" is everybody else's fault.

I didn't make any predictions of the Griz winning the championship. I have no problem with anyone who did. Apparently you do, because in another thread you posted as many of those predictions that others had made as you could find. Like most people, I did have higher expectations than the result of this season. Like everyone, I was disappointed with the results of this season. I have taken a more positive and waited approach in my assessment in my evaluation of players and the coaches, because I know how much work goes into building a successful team. I know the countless hours of work that goes into that and how losing can effect morale. I also know how some outside influences, such as fans and over-bearing parents, can infect a team and create a toxic environment.

My opinion is that the players and coaches have the ability to turn things around. Teams have the ability to bounce back from poor seasons (eg: EWU and YSU). I don't see a similar result for the Griz next season, but there is a lot of young talent on the roster that have the ability to accomplish great things here if they stay focused and work at it. I guess that line of thinking "hurts" the program though, right?

I see more delusion in fans thinking that their whining and slandering of people in the program on a public message board is somehow for the betterment of the program and advocates for progress. It doesn't. If you are so important and so sure of what is best for the program and have such strong "factual" points to back your beliefs up, why are you wasting your time on here? You should be talking to Haslam and working with boosters to advocate for firings instead. Maybe they can also hire you to provide them stats to come up with personnel decisions... With your strong opinions, you must have a football background, so why wouldn't they listen to you?

 

[MrTitleist]

I'm a "moderator."

 

[Brock Landers]

No, you all have it wrong. Eastern fans probably have sh*t to do like mending a barbed-wire fence, feeding some horses or Christmas shopping for their wives.

What an unintentionally hilarious post

 

[EverettGriz]

I'm a "moderator."

Not in the consumption of alcohol, you're not.

 

[UMGriz75]

I didn't make any predictions of the Griz winning the championship. I have no problem with anyone who did. Apparently you do, because in another thread you posted as many of those predictions that others had made as you could find.

It is amusing that the same people keep getting it wrong but, offer an opinion -- and that's all they are is opinions -- different from their's and ... holy shit: 'IT'S AN ANTI-STITT AGENDA!!!" etc etc etc.

No, it was a objective assessment of this coach. And if some delusional fans want a fan forum that only pampers and caresses their hurt feelings, hell, have a puppy party.

It's one thing to be blustering about predicting who's going to win what, but, when that bluster comes from the same people that are always wrong, claiming they know all about football, well, since the predictions are generally baloney, the fun part is pointing out why. A little harmless fun at the expense of people who are invariably wrong? And "wrong" in the loudest and most obnoxious terms on a regular basis.

What your remark above suggests is that it's not fair to compare people's predictions with actual outcomes. Really? "Sports" isn't about "accountability?"

You had different coaches than I did.

 

[reinell30]

I didn't make any predictions of the Griz winning the championship. I have no problem with anyone who did. Apparently you do, because in another thread you posted as many of those predictions that others had made as you could find.

It is amusing that the same people keep getting it wrong but, offer an opinion -- and that's all they are is opinions -- different from their's and ... holy shit: 'IT'S AN ANTI-STITT AGENDA!!!" etc etc etc.

No, it was a objective assessment of this coach. And if some delusional fans want a fan forum that only pampers and caresses their hurt feelings, hell, have a puppy party.

It's one thing to be blustering about predicting who's going to win what, but, when that bluster comes from the same people that are always wrong, claiming they know all about football, well, since the predictions are generally baloney, the fun part is pointing out why. A little harmless fun at the expense of people who are invariably wrong? And "wrong" in the loudest and most obnoxious terms on a regular basis.

What your remark above suggests is that it's not fair to compare people's predictions with actual outcomes. Really? "Sports" isn't about "accountability?"

You had different coaches than I did.

I predict every year the Griz will win the NC! However, like life itself, realty soon becomes real! I have reserved hotel rooms in Frisco Texas every year since the NC game was moved there years ago. Unfortunately I haven't got to use them yet. Like 75 say's, it is an opinion.

 

[UMGriz75]

I see more delusion in fans thinking that their whining and slandering of people in the program on a public message board is somehow for the betterment of the program and advocates for progress.

The interesting contrast between your comment and the purpose and content of this thread could not be more illuminating.

Re-read your comment. I have an opinion. You have one. I'm not attacking you and your sports background. You feel the need to do so, however, and offer a few gratuitous insults on the side. That's for the "betterment of the program," right? And constantly attacking Eastern, Baldwin, and Eag fans satisfies you? These ridiculous threads are all for the benefit of "our program?"

We have another difference of opinion.

 

[Mavman]

They have no genuine fans that appreciate and congratulate a successful coach? Seems like you've got things a bit backwards .... but, that is the direction of (hopefully) a small number of pseudo-fans that have come to dominate egriz: excuse failure, reward incompetence, and, you know, create that all important public image:
[tweet]https://twitter.com/AustinCarver12/status/808856231980908545[/tweet]
It is amazing to me to see a "fan" base become one of the biggest obstacles to success. We've got one.

Explain carvers comment? He sees coaches out doing their job, but he did not know the headcoach till spring? was he a walk on did he get a scholarship? I don't know his story. Is this sour grapes please explain.

Carver didn't enroll at UM until spring semester 2016 so it's very likely he didn't experience the full recruitment process. Combine that with not winning the kicking job and it appears more like a case of sour grapes.

Just more excuses for a declining program. Keep covering your eyes and pretty soon we will be happy with 5 and 6 win seasons.

I'm not covering my eyes and I think there needs to be drastic improvements this year for Stitt to stay.
I really just did not understand Carvers comment. If he came in late and did not go through the whole recruiting process why should he feel slighted? Where is he playing now? TIA

 

[Ursa Major]

I'm a "moderator."

Not in the consumption of alcohol, you're not.

POTY! Great work EG! :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Brock Landers]

This is a silly thread. Beau is the best thing that's ever happened to EWU. Give him a few 5-6 win seasons in a row though and they'll turn on him just like MSU turned on Ash and a good chunk of you guys turned on Stitt. Football fans, regardless of location, are a fickle type.

 

[Sam A. Blitz]

I see more delusion in fans thinking that their whining and slandering of people in the program on a public message board is somehow for the betterment of the program and advocates for progress.

The interesting contrast between your comment and the purpose and content of this thread could not be more illuminating.

Re-read your comment. I have an opinion. You have one. I'm not attacking you and your sports background. You feel the need to do so, however, and offer a few gratuitous insults on the side. That's for the "betterment of the program," right? And constantly attacking Eastern, Baldwin, and Eag fans satisfies you? These ridiculous threads are all for the benefit of "our program?"

We have another difference of opinion.

I don't think I've ever attacked Eastern. In fact, I created a thread congratulating them on a very good season. I personally think Baldwin has done an excellent job and would have to be considered the most successful coach in the conference at this point. I believe the intent of this thread, despite the title, was complimentary to the Eastern fan base.

 

[kemajic]

I believe the intent of this thread, despite the title, was complimentary to the Eastern fan base.

Now that is a funny one.

 

[NativeGriz]

If you go back to the Hauck years when we were regularly winning 10+ games per year and you will find Griz posters were much kinder and with the exception of Alpha you didn't have any fire Hauck posts.

 

[TxGriz]

Any time I see a post from Polson Griz, I pay extra special attention.

Got someone from U of M coming this way in Feb. Having lunch and making plans for future support of the U of MT and UM athletics.