"Everything is predicated on the quarterback postition"

[HelenaHandBasket]

Is there any QB who can execute Stitt's fairytale offense? I don't know

There seems to have been a couple during his CSM days

Sure.... Who do they play against again?

That was not part of your original question. And it would still disqualify "fairytale" as the description. Maybe use elementary, pop warnerish, or maybe vastly inadequate.

 

[griz5700]

Is there any QB who can execute Stitt's fairytale offense? I don't know

There seems to have been a couple during his CSM days

Sure.... Who do they play against again?

That was not part of your original question. And it would still disqualify "fairytale" as the description. Maybe use elementary, pop warnerish, or maybe vastly inadequate.

?? Oh and what is Colorado school of mines? Sounds like a powerhouse

Anyway, no qb can execute this phony, gimmicky offense. At this level.

 

[fanofzoo]

There seems to have been a couple during his CSM days

Sure.... Who do they play against again?

That was not part of your original question. And it would still disqualify "fairytale" as the description. Maybe use elementary, pop warnerish, or maybe vastly inadequate.

?? Oh and what is Colorado school of mines? Sounds like a powerhouse

Anyway, no qb can execute this phony, gimmicky offense. At this level.

Wait ------what is so gimmicky about this offense ?

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Sure.... Who do they play against again?

That was not part of your original question. And it would still disqualify "fairytale" as the description. Maybe use elementary, pop warnerish, or maybe vastly inadequate.

?? Oh and what is Colorado school of mines? Sounds like a powerhouse

Anyway, no qb can execute this phony, gimmicky offense. At this level.

Wait ------what is so gimmicky about this offense ?

Nothing. It seems that it is difficult to run but easy to defend.

 

[fanofzoo]

That was not part of your original question. And it would still disqualify "fairytale" as the description. Maybe use elementary, pop warnerish, or maybe vastly inadequate.

?? Oh and what is Colorado school of mines? Sounds like a powerhouse

Anyway, no qb can execute this phony, gimmicky offense. At this level.

Wait ------what is so gimmicky about this offense ?

Nothing. It seems that it is difficult to run but easy to defend.

Shouldn't you impose your will on the D, not just take what they want to give you.
This comes from an old Buckeye.

 

[PDXGrizzly]

This offense seemed very predictable to me. I am not sure if it was do to qb play or the level of offence Stitt was allowing qb's to use. I do think a mobile qb would make this offense more effective. Other then a few screens to Horner and Bingham, the ball was always thrown to the sideline. We only threw vertically against Idaho. We always used the same run play unless we were inside the 5 then we go to a jumbo package and run up the middle. If we need to use that for a goal line offense we need to run a screen off of it sometimes. Otherwise it's to obvious.

The lack of a vertical offense can be laid squarely on the O Line. Down field routs take longer than was given. Sideline routs were about the only thing that we available in that time frame. Also, how about putting some fingers in the dirt and making a hole? Kind of hard to run block when the D Line is already under your pads. If they utilized the 3 point stance more on non obvious passing downs, holes might get opened for the backs.

 

[bigforkgriz]

We were 2-12 on 3rd down. I'll do the math, that is ten 3 and outs. That is 30 offensive plays out of 59 that resulted in nothing. At least 5 of those 3 and outs were on Brady with inaccurate throws. He didn't execute to high degree. So I would say his performance was impactful.

 

[griznative24]

Seems his D2 QB's ran the system.

I'm not calling for Stitt's head, and I think they should let another year play out, but really? Those D2 QB's were playing against D2 defensive players and D2 defensive coaches and Coach Stitt still only had a 57% winning percentage while with the Orediggers. He is a work in progress, one that myself and all of Griz Nation is hoping will get better.

 

[mikegriz]

One advantage we might have next year is a more mobile QB. That should really help open up our running game!

Had one this year and hardly used him.

But maybe for good reason - he missed a couple of easy throws at NC that were huge. I hate to put so much responsibility on one player, but I think the title of this thread is correct for this offense. Having a QB who is a lot more mobile than Brady while still making most of the throws could result in a very different and hopefully better and more consistent offense

We will never know, but my feeling is we would have won with Chalich Saturday. Could not believe Stitt did not put him in when Gus was clearly struggling - even for a series; see if he could get something going. However, that game is history. What I've been wondering for a while now is why we can't seem to recruit and/or develop quarterbacks like the competition can? Thoughts from the folks on here who understand the FCS recruiting and coaching world?

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Seems his D2 QB's ran the system.

I'm not calling for Stitt's head, and I think they should let another year play out, but really? Those D2 QB's were playing against D2 defensive players and D2 defensive coaches and Coach Stitt still only had a 57% winning percentage while with the Orediggers. He is a work in progress, one that myself and all of Griz Nation is hoping will get better.

I am not saying that I like the offense. My point was, Stitt, even at the D2 level, found a QB that supposedly could run this super complicated offense. I still believe that it is not difficult to defend, but how much of that is on the QB's he had running the system? I am not sure anyone of us really knows, but both BG and Chalich struggled with it. Was that all the design, or because both had limitations. BG was a statue that usually panicked and checked down to his outlet, or attempted much to often and Chalich had happy feet and would take off under the same circumstances. But I really have doubts about an offense that is supposedly super complicated for the QB to run but seems really easy for a defense to gameplan.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

One advantage we might have next year is a more mobile QB. That should really help open up our running game!

Had one this year and hardly used him.

But maybe for good reason - he missed a couple of easy throws at NC that were huge. I hate to put so much responsibility on one player, but I think the title of this thread is correct for this offense. Having a QB who is a lot more mobile than Brady while still making most of the throws could result in a very different and hopefully better and more consistent offense

We will never know, but my feeling is we would have won with Chalich Saturday. Could not believe Stitt did not put him in when Gus was clearly struggling - even for a series; see if he could get something going. However, that game is history. What I've been wondering for a while now is why we can't seem to recruit and/or develop quarterbacks like the competition can? Thoughts from the folks on here who understand the FCS recruiting and coaching world?

Seems we have no idea if Stitt can recruit and develop a QB yet.

 

[griznative24]

Seems his D2 QB's ran the system.

I'm not calling for Stitt's head, and I think they should let another year play out, but really? Those D2 QB's were playing against D2 defensive players and D2 defensive coaches and Coach Stitt still only had a 57% winning percentage while with the Orediggers. He is a work in progress, one that myself and all of Griz Nation is hoping will get better.

I am not saying that I like the offense. My point was, Stitt, even at the D2 level, found a QB that supposedly could run this super complicated offense. I still believe that it is not difficult to defend, but how much of that is on the QB's he had running the system? I am not sure anyone of us really knows, but both BG and Chalich struggled with it. Was that all the design, or because both had limitations. BG was a statue that usually panicked and checked down to his outlet, or attempted much to often and Chalich had happy feet and would take off under the same circumstances. But I really have doubts about an offense that is supposedly super complicated for the QB to run but seems really easy for a defense to gameplan.

I feel ya. But I think the level of FCS competition and speed has a lot to do with it. Good coaches are able to adapt, and we somewhat saw that from Stitt. Unfortunately the adaptations Stitt made sent this offense back to the stone age. I am trying my best to be optimistic here. At some point, with our receivers, just give those dudes a chance to make a play. We saw that when Brady was throwing it up JJ and Henderson two seasons ago. And yes, it is on the QB's. Stitt is all about the QB making the final decision, and I am not sure we have (or ever will) have a QB that can do that.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Seems his D2 QB's ran the system.

I'm not calling for Stitt's head, and I think they should let another year play out, but really? Those D2 QB's were playing against D2 defensive players and D2 defensive coaches and Coach Stitt still only had a 57% winning percentage while with the Orediggers. He is a work in progress, one that myself and all of Griz Nation is hoping will get better.

I am not saying that I like the offense. My point was, Stitt, even at the D2 level, found a QB that supposedly could run this super complicated offense. I still believe that it is not difficult to defend, but how much of that is on the QB's he had running the system? I am not sure anyone of us really knows, but both BG and Chalich struggled with it. Was that all the design, or because both had limitations. BG was a statue that usually panicked and checked down to his outlet, or attempted much to often and Chalich had happy feet and would take off under the same circumstances. But I really have doubts about an offense that is supposedly super complicated for the QB to run but seems really easy for a defense to gameplan.

I feel ya. But I think the level of FCS competition and speed has a lot to do with it. Good coaches are able to adapt, and we somewhat saw that from Stitt. Unfortunately the adaptations Stitt made sent this offense back to the stone age. I am trying my best to be optimistic here. At some point, with our receivers, just give those dudes a chance to make a play. We saw that when Brady was throwing it up JJ and Henderson two seasons ago. And yes, it is on the QB's. Stitt is all about the QB making the final decision, and I am not sure we have (or ever will) have a QB that can do that.

Griz were operating with what might have been one of the poorest offensive lines in the BSC and maybe if I am nice, average talent at the QB position and inconsistent play from the receivers. None of those bode well for an offense.

 

[griznative24]

I'm not calling for Stitt's head, and I think they should let another year play out, but really? Those D2 QB's were playing against D2 defensive players and D2 defensive coaches and Coach Stitt still only had a 57% winning percentage while with the Orediggers. He is a work in progress, one that myself and all of Griz Nation is hoping will get better.

I am not saying that I like the offense. My point was, Stitt, even at the D2 level, found a QB that supposedly could run this super complicated offense. I still believe that it is not difficult to defend, but how much of that is on the QB's he had running the system? I am not sure anyone of us really knows, but both BG and Chalich struggled with it. Was that all the design, or because both had limitations. BG was a statue that usually panicked and checked down to his outlet, or attempted much to often and Chalich had happy feet and would take off under the same circumstances. But I really have doubts about an offense that is supposedly super complicated for the QB to run but seems really easy for a defense to gameplan.

I feel ya. But I think the level of FCS competition and speed has a lot to do with it. Good coaches are able to adapt, and we somewhat saw that from Stitt. Unfortunately the adaptations Stitt made sent this offense back to the stone age. I am trying my best to be optimistic here. At some point, with our receivers, just give those dudes a chance to make a play. We saw that when Brady was throwing it up JJ and Henderson two seasons ago. And yes, it is on the QB's. Stitt is all about the QB making the final decision, and I am not sure we have (or ever will) have a QB that can do that.

Griz were operating with what might have been one of the poorest offensive lines in the BSC and maybe if I am nice, average talent at the QB position and inconsistent play from the receivers. None of those bode well for an offense.

Yep. Can only get better, amirite? *runs to OSFF and grabs a sixer*

 

[mikegriz]

Had one this year and hardly used him.

But maybe for good reason - he missed a couple of easy throws at NC that were huge. I hate to put so much responsibility on one player, but I think the title of this thread is correct for this offense. Having a QB who is a lot more mobile than Brady while still making most of the throws could result in a very different and hopefully better and more consistent offense

We will never know, but my feeling is we would have won with Chalich Saturday. Could not believe Stitt did not put him in when Gus was clearly struggling - even for a series; see if he could get something going. However, that game is history. What I've been wondering for a while now is why we can't seem to recruit and/or develop quarterbacks like the competition can? Thoughts from the folks on here who understand the FCS recruiting and coaching world?

Seems we have no idea if Stitt can recruit and develop a QB yet.

True enough, but the QB situation has been a circus since 2011. We've brought a boatload of QBs into the program since then. No Gage Gubrud, no Vernon Adams, no Bo Levi Mitchell, no Erik Meyer, no Carson Wentz, no Matt Nichols, no Chris Brown. How come?

 

[cmtgrizzly]

Has anyone seen Jensen play in spring ball/practices? He was supposed to be "the future". Is there reason to think he isn't going to be? With the early hype surrounding him I would expect him to take the starting position next year. I really would prefer developing a young player on our roster than usher in a transfer to try and learn the offense.