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Engstrom
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Montanan said:
I heard he has kept up to date with professional on-line courses:
BWahlberg said:
F*ck all of you throwing shade on the "Engstrom Is the Anti-Christ" tent meetings which are so pervasive in this board. Using logic, facts and sound reasoning is NOT the eGriz way.
On what do you base that judgement? Engstrom was not a particularly distinguished researcher and teacher in the field of chemistry. The field moves very rapidly and his expertise is dated. There is also a serious question whether the UM Chemistry Dept. needed another faculty member as enrollments are crashing. Not to mention the fluff of the course he will be teaching.... Bottom line is he has tenure and isn't leaving; not sure how good that is for an overstaffed UM.BWahlberg said:
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kemajic said:
Yep gosh, just and 8 page long sheet of accredited research, consulting, published pieces, teaching responsibilities, awards, and dissertation:
http://www.umt.edu/president/docs/R%20%20Engstrom_CV%20engdoc008.pdf
Clearly just sugarcoating, right Spanky?
HelenaHandBasket
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Ursa Major said:Montanan said:
I heard he has kept up to date with professional on-line courses:
BadlandsGrizFan
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The balls on that guy to even attempt to show up and teach among staff that he has slashed due to his horrid management of the school is what blows me away...
Not that he is qualified to teach or not.
Not that he is qualified to teach or not.
garizzalies
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What seems dumber: when UM hired Gwen, or Engstrom?
I'm leaning toward Engstrom. I realize his credentials were better but he hurt UM more than Gwen. Both seem like damage control hires
And to address a prior question: would you let your kid attend an Engstom class? First of all, "letting" him/her attend and paying for it myself are two different standards. He or she can do damn near anything they want on their own dime. I sure as hell wouldn't pay for my kid to go to an Engstrom class, particularly that bullshit class. But I would also not send my kid to UM for chemestry in the first place, unless it was a required class for a bio-related degree.
I'm leaning toward Engstrom. I realize his credentials were better but he hurt UM more than Gwen. Both seem like damage control hires
And to address a prior question: would you let your kid attend an Engstom class? First of all, "letting" him/her attend and paying for it myself are two different standards. He or she can do damn near anything they want on their own dime. I sure as hell wouldn't pay for my kid to go to an Engstrom class, particularly that bullshit class. But I would also not send my kid to UM for chemestry in the first place, unless it was a required class for a bio-related degree.
IdaGriz01
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1999 paper went to J Chem Ed -- not bad, really. But also not original chemical research. Does not matter ... 18 years is an eon in virtually any scientific discipline, including chemistry. Judging from the job titles, he has been engaged in administrative work since at least 2001. Well ... 16 years is also an eon in chemistry. (My Ph.D. is in chemistry, BTW, so I know at least that much.)PlayerRep said:
It's probably good that the only chemistry course he's teaching is an intro class. Enthusiasm and ability to explain complex topics matter more than a vast knowledge of the latest findings. Cannot judge from a resume whether or not he has those qualities. If he were trying to teach upper division or graduate classes, then I'd worry ... a lot. As for the "honors" class, that sounds like a variant on the area of "Epistemology" ... more or less, "how we know what we know." That takes more of a grounding in philosophy, and the scientific discipline is a distant second. Can be rigorous or pretty "fluffy." If the prof isn't careful, he'll get a whole lot of "dormitory B.S." when the students hand in papers. I taught about 4 weeks of epistemology as part of a broad "technologies" class and you wouldn't believe some of "right brain" speculation and smoke I had to put up with. That was before grade inflation, so that did not last long :lol: .
Actually UM provides as good an undergraduate program in chemistry as any. While not having the graduate research resources of a Stanford, Harvard or UCLA, UM focuses on undergraduates, which the big guys don't. The faculties at the big schools focus on their research and publishing with the top people never teaching undergraduate courses. The UM faculty's mission is the education of undergraduates. Also they can do it better not being beholden to a chemical engineering department like State.garizzalies said:
IdaGriz01
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Same here, but it could depend upon his specialty, I suppose. Hard to be sure, but it looks like he did a lot of work in analytical/measurement chemistry. I worked in the instrumental measurement field and my wife (MS, chemistry) ran an analytical lab. Never heard of anyone named Engstrom. I suppose I could dig out some of his old papers, but it's not really worth the effort.kemajic said:
Fuck Chemistry! What about that slug they just hired in Geography?
AllWeatherFan said:
That clown couldn't find Burma with a brand new map!!
BadlandsGrizFan
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kemajic said:
Did he revise his accomplishments to add in "Ran a thriving University into the ground" 2010-Present
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