Eastern Washington Eagles Scouting Report

[HookedonGriz]

As Duke from the Rocky Balboa movie said:
"So, what we'll be calling on is good ol' fashion blunt force trauma. Horsepower. Heavy-duty, cast-iron, piledriving punches that will have to hurt so much they'll rattle his ancestors. Every time you hit him with a shot, it's gotta feel like he tried kissing the express train. [cracks neck] Yeah! Let's start building some hurtin' bombs
Yeah Barriere is going to need more than an ice bath after the game!

I remember him running for his life in ‘19….about midway through the 3rd, he had the look of someone who just wanted to get back on the f###[#] bus and GTFO. His body language was hilarious….Game still had 20+ minutes to go and I knew they were beat.

Yep I remember him having an absolutely awful game. In fact I had to go back and look at the stats

He was 22 of 41 (53.7%) for 264 yards. He was sacked 3 times and ran for -4 yards on 4 carries. He lost 34-17 and had a rating of 115.8, one of his lowest all season.

You may recall they were up 17 to 10 at halftime and then we outscored them 24-0 in the second half

 

[AllWeatherFan]

I have no concerns whatsoever about this game. I think the Griz win handily, and the “Inferno” becomes just another stadium with a wrong-colored turf.

 

[DuCharme]

I remember him running for his life in ‘19….about midway through the 3rd, he had the look of someone who just wanted to get back on the f###[#] bus and GTFO. His body language was hilarious….Game still had 20+ minutes to go and I knew they were beat.

Yep I remember him having an absolutely awful game. In fact I had to go back and look at the stats

He was 22 of 41 (53.7%) for 264 yards. He was sacked 3 times and ran for -4 yards on 4 carries. He lost 34-17 and had a rating of 115.8, one of his lowest all season.

You may recall they were up 17 to 10 at halftime and then we outscored them 24-0 in the second half

And it wasn’t Sneed in that game. It was a still inexperienced Cam. And he was more accurate than Barriere.

 

[Htowngriz]

I remember him running for his life in ‘19….about midway through the 3rd, he had the look of someone who just wanted to get back on the f###[#] bus and GTFO. His body language was hilarious….Game still had 20+ minutes to go and I knew they were beat.

Yep I remember him having an absolutely awful game. In fact I had to go back and look at the stats

He was 22 of 41 (53.7%) for 264 yards. He was sacked 3 times and ran for -4 yards on 4 carries. He lost 34-17 and had a rating of 115.8, one of his lowest all season.

You may recall they were up 17 to 10 at halftime and then we outscored them 24-0 in the second half

I could be wrong, but I seem to recall they had some serious offensive line issues that year, possibly from injuries. We might not be able to count on getting to him as much as we did in that game (but I hope we do, obviously).

 

[poorgriz]

thanks for this fencer. bulletin board material. :shock:

Clash of styles: Eastern Washington’s offense, Montana’s defense collide Saturday on ESPN2


. . . Limu-Jones was aware of how highly ranked the Montana defense is: No. 3 in the nation in scoring defense and 13th in total defense (268.3 yards per game). But, he asked, who have they played?

“They haven’t played an offense as good as our offense,” Limu-Jones said. “We have the best quarterback in the nation right now. He lives in Cheney. Having him on our side, it gives us a plus-1. They have to worry about Eric (Barriere). They haven’t seen a group like our group.”

After Barriere’s latest 500-yard performance against Southern Utah, the senior quarterback was named Big Sky Offensive Player of the Week again, for the third time in this season. He has thrown for 1,698 yards and 16 touchdowns through four games while completing 69.6% of his passes. Barriere has become the fourth Eastern Washington quarterback to throw for more than 10,000 yards in his career and is among the top 10 Big Sky quarterbacks in all-time passing yards with 10,437. He still has at least seven games to go.
But the same question – who have they played? – could be applied to the Eagles.

. . . The last time the teams met was in October 2019, when the Eagles built a 17-10 halftime lead in Missoula only to watch the Grizzlies outscore them 24-0 in the second half. Montana outgained Eastern 430-365 and held the football for nearly 38 minutes of the game. Andrew Boston, one of four current Eastern receivers who played in that loss, said he is not one to water down the significance of this weekend’s rematch, even though in some sense it is just one more game. “I think in the preparation, that has to stay the same. But there’s definitely a chip on our shoulder,” Boston said. “We know we’re about to play a top team in the league. … The stage is going to be exciting. I’m excited to get to Saturday.”
https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2021/sep/28/clash-of-styles-eastern-washingtons-offense-montan/

Well he's not wrong. The griz haven't seen an offense that good this year. The EWU offense is significantly better than what the Huskies have. Also, I was looking at those numbers, EB has a decent chance of breaking the all time Big Sky record for passing yards, currently held by Erik Meyer.

 

[EverettGriz]

thanks for this fencer. bulletin board material. :shock:

Well he's not wrong. The griz haven't seen an offense that good this year. The EWU offense is significantly better than what the Huskies have. Also, I was looking at those numbers, EB has a decent chance of breaking the all time Big Sky record for passing yards, currently held by Erik Meyer.

OMG.

 

[Griz2k]

thanks for this fencer. bulletin board material. :shock:

Well he's not wrong. The griz haven't seen an offense that good this year. The EWU offense is significantly better than what the Huskies have. Also, I was looking at those numbers, EB has a decent chance of breaking the all time Big Sky record for passing yards, currently held by Erik Meyer.

I'm not in a position to compare the Huskies' offense with Eastern's, but if this guy wants to compare schedules he should probably look internally first.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

thanks for this fencer. bulletin board material. :shock:

Well he's not wrong. The griz haven't seen an offense that good this year. The EWU offense is significantly better than what the Huskies have. Also, I was looking at those numbers, EB has a decent chance of breaking the all time Big Sky record for passing yards, currently held by Erik Meyer.

Have the Eags seen an offense as good as Montana's this year? UNLV, CWU, WIU, and SUU have put up a combined 124 points. We can rule out WIU fairly easily. So that leaves the other three. Nobody seems to be talking about this part of the matchup. Who have we played, uh, who have THEY played?

Edit: Griz2k beat me to it, and much more succinctly.

 

[Proud Griz Man]

It is amazing that you have made 3411 posts with your head up your azz. :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Well he's not wrong. The griz haven't seen an offense that good this year. The EWU offense is significantly better than what the Huskies have. Also, I was looking at those numbers, EB has a decent chance of breaking the all time Big Sky record for passing yards, currently held by Erik Meyer.

" . . . The Huskies return all five starters, guys who form the biggest bunch of blockers among all Pac-12 teams as well as in UW school history. They're spearheaded by experienced players such as Jackson Kirkland and Luke Wattenberg, decorated individuals who will be NFL draftees, Kirkland possibly high in the first round. Yet somewhat obscured by this collection of football humanity are the next eight or so players peeking their heads out from the long shadows cast by Ulumoo Ale's massive 365-pound frame and Henry Bainivalu's imposing 340-pound girth. Lake's love run deep with the UW O-line, and that extends well beyond those seasoned first-teamers who drop down in a three-point stance. No wonder he wears a hat that says, "Run the damn ball."

"Our second o-line and into our third o-line could be starters at other programs," the coach said.

Team testing, which the coaching staff dubbed the Husky Combine, verified their physical prowess -- many of the UW's youngest linemen also are some of the strongest players across the entire team. Gaard Memmelaar, a 6-foot-4 freshman guard from Caldwell, Idaho, emerged as the Huskies' top bench-presser, hoisting 415 pounds. Fellow guard Myles Murao, a 6-foot-3, 335-pound freshman from Torrance, California, benched 385 pounds, leaving him fifth best amongst everyone. In the front squat, Troy Fautanu, a 6-foot-3, 314-pound redshirt freshman tackle from Henderson, Nevada, and the heir apparent to Jaxson Kirkland's job, topped all Huskies by lifting 500 pounds. Geirean Hatchett, a 6-foot-4, 300-pound freshman center from Ferndale, Washington, finished tied for fifth on the team with a 415-pound squat. Hatchett also ranked third among all Huskies with a 345-pound hang clean. Ale, a returning starter but still just a sophomore in class standing, showed off the team's second-best bench press at 405 pounds. Another sophomore, 6-foot-5, 300-pound tackle and one-time center Matteo Mele from Tucson, Arizona, finished tied for fifth on the team after turning in a 415-pound squat. The Huskies should be in good hands for some time with these young, powerful men manning the trenches. Lake, for one, will be a big fan.

The University of Washington placed offensive tackle Jaxson Kirkland, tight end Cade Otton and cornerback Trent McDuffie on the first unit of the preseason All-Pac-12 team, and eight Huskies altogether received some sort of recognition. The 6-foot-7, 317-pound Kirkland and 6-foot-5, 250-pound Otton were returning first-team all-conference players from 2020. McDuffie finished last season as a second-team selection. Kirkland and Otton, fourth-year juniors who passed up opportunities to enter the NFL draft in April, each return for their fourth seasons as UW starters. McDuffie, a sophomore, will become a third-year Husky starter.
Sophomore inside linebacker Edefuan Ulofoshio was the only UW player to earn a spot on the All-Pac-12 second team, the same place he ended up last season.
Center Luke Wattenberg, offensive guard Henry Bainivalu, cornerback Kyler Gordon and kicker Peyton Henry each received honorable-mention recognition, with Gordon doing it twice, as a secondary player and special-teamer.

 

[Bertram]

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

I think there will be many Griz fans with tight sphincters come 10 Saturday night.

 

[AZGrizFan]

I think there will be many Griz fans with tight sphincters come 10 Saturday night.

What we (and every team that plays EWU, really) need to avoid is that prolonged stretch where THEY score and we don’t. It’s happened in almost every game since Hauck left. We go toe to toe with them, except for some 12-15 minute stretch where they score 21-28 points. Very frustrating. It happened to WIU as well. They actually beat EWU except for the 28 point 2nd quarter where they had NO answer.

2016: we have a 7-0 lead. Eastern scores 21 straight and never trails again.
2017: we have a 24-6 lead. Eastern scores repeatedly and ties it at 34, then scores twice more to win 48-41.
2014: Griz down just 13-10, EWU scores 20 straight and goes up 33-10 and goes on to win 36-26.
2013: Montana leads 10-7, then EWU scores 28 of the next 35 points and goes on to win 42-37

And so on…

 

[EverettGriz]

I think there will be many Griz fans with tight sphincters come 10 Saturday night.

Anyone not expecting a tough battle is probably thinking with their heart, not their head.

But to suggest that Montana hasn't played anyone, or that ewooo's offense is better than the Huskies, which has 3 first round draft choices on the offense line alone, well, that takes the conversation to a poorgriz level of idiocy.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

I think there will be many Griz fans with tight sphincters come 10 Saturday night.

Anyone not expecting a tough battle is probably thinking with their heart, not their head.

But to suggest that Montana hasn't played anyone, or that ewooo's offense is better than the Huskies, which has 3 first round draft choices on the offense line alone, well, that takes the conversation to a poorgriz level of idiocy.

I stand by the EWU has a better offense than UW has displayed and am pretty confident that they will score 2.5-3 times or more the points than UDub. UDub may have a few guys that could be first round choices, but as a unit, they have been poor, which I think could probably mean there is a good chance they won't be first round choices. I also have not said that Montana hasn't played anyone nor that the Griz couldn't or shouldn't win. I just don't think some of these 42-17 predictions are very realistic.

 

[EverettGriz]

Anyone not expecting a tough battle is probably thinking with their heart, not their head.

But to suggest that Montana hasn't played anyone, or that ewooo's offense is better than the Huskies, which has 3 first round draft choices on the offense line alone, well, that takes the conversation to a poorgriz level of idiocy.

I stand by the EWU has a better offense than UW has displayed and am pretty confident that they will score 2.5-3 times or more the points than UDub. UDub may have a few guys that could be first round choices, but as a unit, they have been poor, which I think could probably mean there is a good chance they won't be first round choices. I also have not said that Montana hasn't played anyone nor that the Griz couldn't or shouldn't win. I just don't think some of these 42-17 predictions are very realistic.

Different games play out differently. I agree ewooo will score more than 7. But that doesn’t mean their offense is better than Washington’s. The entire premise is laughable, actually. I mean, Kansas City only scored 21 Sunday, so their offense must be worse than ewoooo’s.

Washington’s offense would run circles around ewooo.

 

[RainierGriz]

This is just... awesome :clap:

 

[ilovethecats]

I stand by the EWU has a better offense than UW has displayed and am pretty confident that they will score 2.5-3 times or more the points than UDub. UDub may have a few guys that could be first round choices, but as a unit, they have been poor, which I think could probably mean there is a good chance they won't be first round choices. I also have not said that Montana hasn't played anyone nor that the Griz couldn't or shouldn't win. I just don't think some of these 42-17 predictions are very realistic.

Different games play out differently. I agree ewooo will score more than 7. But that doesn’t mean their offense is better than Washington’s. The entire premise is laughable, actually. I mean, Kansas City only scored 21 Sunday, so their offense must be worse than ewoooo’s.

Washington’s offense would run circles around ewooo.

Just to play devils advocate here EG; and I know they’re FBS and EWU is FCS. And I loathe EWU more than anything. But other than the fact that Washington plays at a higher level, and has PROJECTED first round talent….what makes their offense better than EWU?

Season is early but there is literally nothing that Washington has done so far that’s better than EWU. I think EB has more passing yards than Washington has total yards.

Washington averages 25, EWU 52. Washington has scored 100 points, EWU 210. Washington 13 touchdowns, EWU 28.

You get the story. Pick an offensive stat, and EWU likely is better than UW.

Pretend the Griz had identical offensive numbers as EWU right now. Then pretend me, a dumb cat fan said Washington’s offense was way better than the griz and would run circles around them. Now pretend what you’d tell me….

 

[EverettGriz]

Different games play out differently. I agree ewooo will score more than 7. But that doesn’t mean their offense is better than Washington’s. The entire premise is laughable, actually. I mean, Kansas City only scored 21 Sunday, so their offense must be worse than ewoooo’s.

Washington’s offense would run circles around ewooo.

Just to play devils advocate here EG; and I know they’re FBS and EWU is FCS. And I loathe EWU more than anything. But other than the fact that Washington plays at a higher level, and has PROJECTED first round talent….what makes their offense better than EWU?

Season is early but there is literally nothing that Washington has done so far that’s better than EWU. I think EB has more passing yards than Washington has total yards.

Washington averages 25, EWU 52. Washington has scored 100 points, EWU 210. Washington 13 touchdowns, EWU 28.

You get the story. Pick an offensive stat, and EWU likely is better than UW.

Pretend the Griz had identical offensive numbers as EWU right now. Then pretend me, a dumb cat fan said Washington’s offense was way better than the griz and would run circles around them. Now pretend what you’d tell me….

Again, as I noted above, using your logic the eastern offense must be vastly superior to that of the Kansas City Chiefs then, correct?

 

[ilovethecats]

Just to play devils advocate here EG; and I know they’re FBS and EWU is FCS. And I loathe EWU more than anything. But other than the fact that Washington plays at a higher level, and has PROJECTED first round talent….what makes their offense better than EWU?

Season is early but there is literally nothing that Washington has done so far that’s better than EWU. I think EB has more passing yards than Washington has total yards.

Washington averages 25, EWU 52. Washington has scored 100 points, EWU 210. Washington 13 touchdowns, EWU 28.

You get the story. Pick an offensive stat, and EWU likely is better than UW.

Pretend the Griz had identical offensive numbers as EWU right now. Then pretend me, a dumb cat fan said Washington’s offense was way better than the griz and would run circles around them. Now pretend what you’d tell me….

Again, as I noted above, using your logic the eastern offense must be vastly superior to that of the Kansas City Chiefs then, correct?

Well, and you already know this but that is assuming you think the difference in talent from Washington to Eastern Washington is the same as the difference between an FBS team and an NFL team. You’re too smart to believe that but I understand your point.

I coached an amazing flag football team about 10 years ago. Honestly I think we averaged about 60 a game and could have been about 90 if we didn’t let all the kids play. Our offense was electric. But I wouldn’t say it was better than a high school team because that would be asinine. The difference in talent is wider than the Grand Canyon.

In regards to FCS and FBS I don’t think the difference in talent is that much. No kids flag football team could beat a high school team. No college team could beat an NFL team. But FCS teams CAN and do best FBS teams. As you have shown.

Your win over Washington was awesome. No one is taking that away from you. But that doesn’t mean that just because Washington is FBS there is no way that any fcs team could be as good or as dynamic on offense.

The season is young so we’ll see how it plays out. But I don’t see it as an asinine comment that there’s a chance this could be the best offense you face all year. And you play the cats.

Although if you guys win and the Eagles look crappy I’ll agree with you that their offense wasn’t the best you’ve seen. :thumb:

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

I stand by the EWU has a better offense than UW has displayed and am pretty confident that they will score 2.5-3 times or more the points than UDub. UDub may have a few guys that could be first round choices, but as a unit, they have been poor, which I think could probably mean there is a good chance they won't be first round choices. I also have not said that Montana hasn't played anyone nor that the Griz couldn't or shouldn't win. I just don't think some of these 42-17 predictions are very realistic.

Different games play out differently. I agree ewooo will score more than 7. But that doesn’t mean their offense is better than Washington’s. The entire premise is laughable, actually. I mean, Kansas City only scored 21 Sunday, so their offense must be worse than ewoooo’s.

Washington’s offense would run circles around ewooo.

I disagree. I have watched all 4 UDub games, and outside of the Arkansas St game, they have looked terrible. EWU has a better QB and I won't hesitate to say better receivers. Just because UDub is Pac12 doesn't mean they are better offensively.