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Eastern Washington Eagles Scouting Report

HelenaHandBasket said:
EverettGriz said:
Different games play out differently. I agree ewooo will score more than 7. But that doesn’t mean their offense is better than Washington’s. The entire premise is laughable, actually. I mean, Kansas City only scored 21 Sunday, so their offense must be worse than ewoooo’s.

Washington’s offense would run circles around ewooo.

I disagree. I have watched all 4 UDub games, and outside of the Arkansas St game, they have looked terrible. EWU has a better QB and I won't hesitate to say better receivers. Just because UDub is Pac12 doesn't mean they are better offensively.
How many points do you think Washington would have scored during this season if they played the very same teams that EWU played? Probably more than EWU scored.
 
ranco said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
I disagree. I have watched all 4 UDub games, and outside of the Arkansas St game, they have looked terrible. EWU has a better QB and I won't hesitate to say better receivers. Just because UDub is Pac12 doesn't mean they are better offensively.
How many points do you think Washington would have scored during this season if they played the very same teams that EWU played? Probably more than EWU scored.

Where did I quote scores?
 
The Agricultural-State Cat fan analyzes statistics :shock: of EWU compared to University of Washington,
and
completely ignores that the EWU eagles hosted Central Washington on 9/11/21 while UW was playing Michigan at the big house. :lol:
Cat fan has an expertly-trained eye that says the UW quarterback & receivers do NOT appear as talented as EWU, but they are not playing against Central Washington. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


ilovethecats said:
Season is early but there is literally nothing that Washington has done so far that’s better than EWU. I think EB has more passing yards than Washington has total yards.

Washington averages 25, EWU 52. Washington has scored 100 points, EWU 210. Washington 13 touchdowns, EWU 28.

You get the story. Pick an offensive stat, and EWU likely is better than UW.
 
Given this, can anyone really say eastern's offene is better than Washington's??

UNLV is the No. 124 scoring defense in the FBS, Central Washington is D2, Western Illinois is No. 110 in FCS scoring defense, and Southern Utah is No. 113.

That's a whoooole load of defensive shittiness.

https://herosports.com/fcs-football-2021-montana-ewu-preview-bzbz/
 
EverettGriz said:
Given this, can anyone really say eastern's offene is better than Washington's??

UNLV is the No. 124 scoring defense in the FBS, Central Washington is D2, Western Illinois is No. 110 in FCS scoring defense, and Southern Utah is No. 113.

That's a whoooole load of defensive shittiness.

https://herosports.com/fcs-football-2021-montana-ewu-preview-bzbz/

So if they score more than 7 against Montana, do we consider them better? I mean, all we would have to really compare is head-to-head. :roll:
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
EverettGriz said:
Given this, can anyone really say eastern's offene is better than Washington's??



That's a whoooole load of defensive shittiness.

https://herosports.com/fcs-football-2021-montana-ewu-preview-bzbz/

So if they score more than 7 against Montana, do we consider them better? I mean, all we would have to really compare is head-to-head. :roll:

Haven't we covered this already?
 
For those of you who are worried about our offense, here's a blast to the past (July 2021) and Bobby's thoughts on the team. I think we will be just fine tomorrow night.

https://youtu.be/Vr0dYGBVgVw?t=255
 
They are #6 ranked, we all know they are good and respect EWU's team + coaching.

HelenaHandBasket said:
So if they score more than 7 against Montana, do we consider them better? I mean, all we would have to really compare is head-to-head. :roll:
 
EverettGriz said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
So if they score more than 7 against Montana, do we consider them better? I mean, all we would have to really compare is head-to-head. :roll:

Haven't we covered this already?

You want to use performance and opponents to validate that EWU's offense isn't as good as UDub. Pretty sure that the performance against a common opponent would pretty much top that list.
 
So here is a quote from an EWU player. We don’t have a chance apparently.

Limu-Jones was aware of how highly ranked the Montana defense is: No. 3 in the nation in scoring defense and 13th in total defense (268.3 yards per game).

But, he asked, who have they played?

“They haven’t played an offense as good as our offense,” Limu-Jones said. “We have the best quarterback in the nation right now. He lives in Cheney. Having him on our side, it gives us a plus-1. They have to worry about Eric (Barriere). They haven’t seen a group like our group.”

https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2021/sep/28/clash-of-styles-eastern-washingtons-offense-montan/
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
EverettGriz said:
Anyone not expecting a tough battle is probably thinking with their heart, not their head.

But to suggest that Montana hasn't played anyone, or that ewooo's offense is better than the Huskies, which has 3 first round draft choices on the offense line alone, well, that takes the conversation to a poorgriz level of idiocy.

I stand by the EWU has a better offense than UW has displayed and am pretty confident that they will score 2.5-3 times or more the points than UDub. UDub may have a few guys that could be first round choices, but as a unit, they have been poor, which I think could probably mean there is a good chance they won't be first round choices. I also have not said that Montana hasn't played anyone nor that the Griz couldn't or shouldn't win. I just don't think some of these 42-17 predictions are very realistic.

You're 100% correct. Maybe somebody can post more quotes on here of a UW reporting writing about how good the UW offense should be. Go ahead and believe that all ya want! I've seen both teams play, multiple times this year and I've seen it with my own eyes. EWU has a better offense than UW. Don't bother posting about level of competition, don't care. If the griz hold the Eags to 10 points or less, I'll eat the crow.
 
poorgriz said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
I stand by the EWU has a better offense than UW has displayed and am pretty confident that they will score 2.5-3 times or more the points than UDub. UDub may have a few guys that could be first round choices, but as a unit, they have been poor, which I think could probably mean there is a good chance they won't be first round choices. I also have not said that Montana hasn't played anyone nor that the Griz couldn't or shouldn't win. I just don't think some of these 42-17 predictions are very realistic.

You're 100% correct. Maybe somebody can post more quotes on here of a UW reporting writing about how good the UW offense should be. Go ahead and believe that all ya want! I've seen both teams play, multiple times this year and I've seen it with my own eyes. EWU has a better offense than UW. Don't bother posting about level of competition, don't care. If the griz hold the Eags to 10 points or less, I'll eat the crow.

Oh please. You'll be nowhere to be found on Sunday if that happens. :lol:
 
Last 5 games, Griz have scored 59, 48, 13, 42 and 39. Their D has given up 3, 7, 7, 7, 7. These include 3 FCS, 1 FBS and 1 D-II. Griz are 5-0.
Last 5 games Eagles have scored 20, 35 (20 in regulation), 63, 62 and 50. Their D has given up 42, 33, 14, 56, 21. These include 3FCS, 1 FBS and 1 D-II. EWU is 4-1 in those games.
I'm including ALL points as scored against the defense, and all points scored as "offensive" scores, even though we know that's not exactly true, but is representative of defensive and special teams capabilities (plus I'm too lazy to go sifting through each box score to see what the offense actually did).

There are two common opponents...CWU and WIU. Both are 2-0 against those opponents. Griz beat CWU 59-3 in the spring, EWU beat them 63-14 this fall. Griz beat WIU 42-7 while EWU won in a shootout 62-56.

Griz "offense" has averaged 40.2 PPG, while EWU has averaged 46 (43 in regulation). UM D gives up an average of 6.2 PPG, while EWU's gives up 33.2 PPG.

The delta between the Griz/EWU offenses is much, MUCH smaller than the delta between the defensive performances. Take that for what it's worth, but I like our chances.
 
Proud Griz Man said:
The Agricultural-State Cat fan analyzes statistics :shock: of EWU compared to University of Washington,
and
completely ignores that the EWU eagles hosted Central Washington on 9/11/21 while UW was playing Michigan at the big house. :lol:
Cat fan has an expertly-trained eye that says the UW quarterback & receivers do NOT appear as talented as EWU, but they are not playing against Central Washington. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


ilovethecats said:
Season is early but there is literally nothing that Washington has done so far that’s better than EWU. I think EB has more passing yards than Washington has total yards.

Washington averages 25, EWU 52. Washington has scored 100 points, EWU 210. Washington 13 touchdowns, EWU 28.

You get the story. Pick an offensive stat, and EWU likely is better than UW.

This is kind of fair. Though I technically didn’t say any of the things you said I did. But I’ll concede. Washington may in fact have an amazing offense. And easterns may not be that great. And seeing as though we are now in conference play, I guess we’ll never know because no matter how inept UW might appear, their playing vastly superior talent than EWU will play. So I guess the point is moot.

I did get a chuckle hearing about Central Washington though because I recall a fanbase that was ecstatic after going 2-0 against Portland St and Central Washington. ;)
 
I think the biggest problem is not the QB or the offense but the grotesque red field that EWU is used to while visitors are not.
 
Htowngriz said:
poorgriz said:
You're 100% correct. Maybe somebody can post more quotes on here of a UW reporting writing about how good the UW offense should be. Go ahead and believe that all ya want! I've seen both teams play, multiple times this year and I've seen it with my own eyes. EWU has a better offense than UW. Don't bother posting about level of competition, don't care. If the griz hold the Eags to 10 points or less, I'll eat the crow.

Oh please. You'll be nowhere to be found on Sunday if that happens. :lol:
EWU hasn't played Michigan or Montana. Better information by tomorrow night.
 
GrizLA said:
I think the biggest problem is not the QB or the offense but the grotesque red field that EWU is used to while visitors are not.
I've talked to several players about that. They hardly notice the color of the turf; was not a problem even when EWU wore all red. They're not looking down much. TV viewers are another thing; couldn't be more annoying. Will need several ibuprofen afterward.
 
kemajic said:
GrizLA said:
I think the biggest problem is not the QB or the offense but the grotesque red field that EWU is used to while visitors are not.
I've talked to several players about that. They hardly notice the color of the turf; was not a problem even when EWU wore all red. They're not looking down much. TV viewers are another thing; couldn't be more annoying. Will need several ibuprofen afterward.
well, they say that but when was the last time UM won on that field?
 
GrizLA said:
kemajic said:
I've talked to several players about that. They hardly notice the color of the turf; was not a problem even when EWU wore all red. They're not looking down much. TV viewers are another thing; couldn't be more annoying. Will need several ibuprofen afterward.
well, they say that but when was the last time UM won on that field?
They haven't of course, but hardly because of the color of the turf. And a BH coached team has yet to play on it.
 
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