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Donaldson denied parole

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statler & waldorf said:
WTF! A post just DISAPPEARS?
Link to Missoula County Jail Roster, January 2012, related to someone posting on this thread, just up and disappears????

What disappeared?
 
tnt said:
Donaldson committed date rape in addition to the assault on a friend he is serving time for???????? You know, the one the victim was running down the alley trying to get her other friend out of donaldsons place before she was next. Can you supply details of this other rape PR?

The 2d allegation came up at his sentencing hearing. A woman said he had tried to do the same thing to her several years earlier, but had not succeeded. Don't think she actually appeared at the hearing, but her testimony or transcript or something was allowed. This was in the newspaper at the time, and it's in the Krakauer book. "Testimony" like this isn't considered to be as valid, because it's just something someone said, and it was challenged by anyone questioning her or an attorney for the other side.
 
EverettGriz said:
statler & waldorf said:
WTF! A post just DISAPPEARS?


I wondered about that too. Perhaps he chose to delete it??

I'm not the only one to notice the disappearing post. Here should be a electrónic footprint to follow, unless Hillary Clinton is involved. I don't make this shit up. I have no reason to do so.
 
PlayerRep said:
AlphaRep1 said:
EverettGriz said:
statler & waldorf said:
WTF! A post just DISAPPEARS?


I wondered about that too. Perhaps he chose to delete it??
Over the years is become common place to find PR posts deleted, he can make fun of rape and support it happening but Growler cant, PR can attack and threaten children, post bomb threats to other posters as well as having his son show up at the doorstep to inflict physical harm and that flies because he is a mod favorite.

It wont be long before he deletes others that we have saved with screen shots and will be forwarding to the state law board. There is no reason a person of the court should act like this online, its disgusting.

We had to get this in quick because the mods will lock this shortly and will not ban PR for the worst posts that have ever appeared on this site.

Never threatened anyone on the internet. Not that type of person. And way too smart for that. Feel free to present any real evidence. By the way, Growler is the guy who used to threaten to send his son to get some of us--wasn't me. Alpha, I print all of your threats to me, so I have them in hard copy. Alpha can't even post in his own name. What a loser. Yes, I am a mod favorite--because I pre-clear all my posts with the egriz censures and lawyers. The mods don't even have to look at them.

You "pre-clear all of your posts"??? ROFL! You are perhaps the biggest douche bag I have ever had the displeasure to know! Your self-flagellation is tiring to all of us. I got news for you, Playa, since you are so full of sh*t that you can't figure it out on your own........... you are NOT important! You try so hard to be a Griz insider, but all of the coaches, players, and parents run the other way when they see you coming! But you are so caught-up in your mythical delusion of self-important, that it all flies right over your thick skull.

You threatened to withhold financial support when your boy Bobby was passed over, because you knew that Stitt wouldn't kiss your rosey-red like Bobby did. But it didn't work. You should get the message that you are NOT as important as you think you are regarding Grizzly athletics. You are not even an alum. Appease your huge ego elsewhere. Go back to chasing the Cats, like you used to. They are losers, and much more in your league.
 
Growler, I've never said I was important to Griz football or athletics. Never said I would withhold donations because Hauck wasn't hired. However, I knew all of the coaches in the prior staffs, and I know most of the coaches in the current staff (and have met all of them), including Stitt. Stitt's teammate and roommate in college is one of my best friends, and will be attending the NDSU game. Bet I spend more time with Stitt that weekend than you do. I am confident my relationships with the players and parents that I know are all good. I also know that virtually every player or parent who is aware of you, thinks you are a total idiot. The Mo Club bartenders also think you're an idiot too. I get texts from them occasionally saying that dumb shit Dill is in here again.
 
PlayerRep said:
tnt said:
Donaldson committed date rape in addition to the assault on a friend he is serving time for???????? You know, the one the victim was running down the alley trying to get her other friend out of donaldsons place before she was next. Can you supply details of this other rape PR?

The 2d allegation came up at his sentencing hearing. A woman said he had tried to do the same thing to her several years earlier, but had not succeeded. Don't think she actually appeared at the hearing, but her testimony or transcript or something was allowed. This was in the newspaper at the time, and it's in the Krakauer book. "Testimony" like this isn't considered to be as valid, because it's just something someone said, and it was challenged by anyone questioning her or an attorney for the other side.

I'm not familiar with Montana law but in Washington State this would matter. Most pedophiles and rapists usually have far more victims than those that they are adjudicated on. If they are transparent in treatment and those other crimes are admitted to, they become part of discovery and can be used for parole determination. In this state the biggest factors for release are; Static 99 Scores (an actuarial of sex offender risk factors); the inmates success in treatment; passing polygraph tests, and their overall behavior in prison. This is a double bind for most prisoners. If you are transparent, your number of offenses goes up effecting your risk factors but if you don't confess to other crimes you still have to pass the polygraph and in some cases the plethysmograph. Although neither is admissible in court, they are both used to measure success in treatment and for the recommendation of the forensic psychologists.
 
Ursa Major said:
PlayerRep said:
tnt said:
Donaldson committed date rape in addition to the assault on a friend he is serving time for???????? You know, the one the victim was running down the alley trying to get her other friend out of donaldsons place before she was next. Can you supply details of this other rape PR?

The 2d allegation came up at his sentencing hearing. A woman said he had tried to do the same thing to her several years earlier, but had not succeeded. Don't think she actually appeared at the hearing, but her testimony or transcript or something was allowed. This was in the newspaper at the time, and it's in the Krakauer book. "Testimony" like this isn't considered to be as valid, because it's just something someone said, and it was challenged by anyone questioning her or an attorney for the other side.

I'm not familiar with Montana law but in Washington State this would matter. Most pedophiles and rapists usually have far more victims than those that they are adjudicated on. If they are transparent in treatment and those other crimes are admitted to, they become part of discovery and can be used for parole determination. In this state the biggest factors for release are; Static 99 Scores (an actuarial of sex offender risk factors); the inmates success in treatment; passing polygraph tests, and their overall behavior in prison. This is a double bind for most prisoners. If you are transparent, your number of offenses goes up effecting your risk factors but if you don't confess to other crimes you still have to pass the polygraph and in some cases the plethysmograph. Although neither is admissible in court, they are both used to measure success in treatment and for the recommendation of the forensic psychologists.

Much the same in Montana. However I would prefer that in the case of the pedophiles, that surgical removal of the necessary "equipment" and replacement of it with a plastic bag would eliminate the need for a plethysmograph.

PR once again calling Donaldsons actions "date rape" sort of explains the problem.......
 
PR: Yes there are things worse than rape. But wtf is your point?

Rape produces post traumatic stress disorder. In other words some people CANT get over it. They want to, but can't. Some people do get over it but continue to talk about in order to help others. Many rape victims don't say a word and live out there lives as a shell of themselves. Some just move on like you want them to, since it's what's best for PR.

If you want to talk about people who need to move on (aka get a life) there are also people who will say and do nearly anything to keep their precious favorite sports teams in a positive light. These people are called Win At All Cost fans.
 
What's your favorite Playarapism:

A) Obviously, you've never played the game.
B) You do not even know who the potential big donors are.
C) I would gladly trade getting date raped periodically.
D) Other [Please indicate]
 
Like most stiff corporate lawyers I know, PR has trouble articulating clearly common-man or common sense positions. Let me try to help and "splain" what I believe he was trying to say.

Victims of tragic crimes/events, whether a plane crash, early cancer death, mugging, murder or rape, don't choose to be victims of crimes or accidents. However, how those individuals react to those events, is solely within their free will birthright of choice.

Abraham Lincoln once noted (and I'm paraphrasing) "most people are as happy as they make their minds up to be." You can choose to be consumed by any injury or loss, or you can choose to get over it and get on with life, perhaps even finding strength you didn't know you had.

As applied to the event of rape, I think he's advocating the "Gus" principle in Lonesome Dove when Gus finds the girl after she was raped: "It shouldn't have happened, but it did. It's over now, and life moves on." Practical? Yes. Compassionate? Actually for healthy life from then on, perhaps yes as well.

Life is for the living, and if victims of crimes decide to let that hunt them and their loved ones forever, well then they've given the criminal continued power over them they shouldn't, and they become victims of themselves. (Interjecting a comparison of which event/crime is worse, or which tragedy/crime PR would swap for another, only derails the message).

So, PR, am I even close?
 
horribilisfan8184 said:
Like most stiff corporate lawyers I know, PR has trouble articulating clearly common-man or common sense positions. Let me try to help and "splain" what I believe he was trying to say.

Victims of tragic crimes/events, whether a plane crash, early cancer death, mugging, murder or rape, don't choose to be victims of crimes or accidents. However, how those individuals react to those events, is solely within their free will birthright of choice.

Abraham Lincoln once noted (and I'm paraphrasing) "most people are as happy as they make their minds up to be." You can choose to be consumed by any injury or loss, or you can choose to get over it and get on with life, perhaps even finding strength you didn't know you had.

As applied to the event of rape, I think he's advocating the "Gus" principle in Lonesome Dove when Gus finds the girl after she was raped: "It shouldn't have happened, but it did. It's over now, and life moves on." Practical? Yes. Compassionate? Actually for healthy life from then on, perhaps yes as well.

Life is for the living, and if victims of crimes decide to let that hunt them and their loved ones forever, well then they've given the criminal continued power over them they shouldn't, and they become victims of themselves. (Interjecting a comparison of which event/crime is worse, or which tragedy/crime PR would swap for another, only derails the message).

So, PR, am I even close?
Does anyone actually believe that all these people are just choosing to be miserable? In that case shouldn't pr just leave his dad out of the discussion? He obviously hasn't moved on since he's willing to be date raped periodically to get his dad back.
 
The mystery post referred to a January 6, 2012 thread about Donaldson appearing in the Missoula County Jail Roster. The thread lasted 7 pages. Old news to most of you, new to me.
 
PlayerRep said:
Growler, I've never said I was important to Griz football or athletics. Never said I would withhold donations because Hauck wasn't hired. However, I knew all of the coaches in the prior staffs, and I know most of the coaches in the current staff (and have met all of them), including Stitt. Stitt's teammate and roommate in college is one of my best friends, and will be attending the NDSU game. Bet I spend more time with Stitt that weekend than you do. I am confident my relationships with the players and parents that I know are all good. I also know that virtually every player or parent who is aware of you, thinks you are a total idiot. The Mo Club bartenders also think you're an idiot too. I get texts from them occasionally saying that dumb shit Dill is in here again.

Typical post from you. Your first sentence states that you "never said you were important to Griz athletics"......... then you spend the rest of the post telling us how important you are to Griz athletics. :? :?

Just to set the record straight, I have zero interest in spending time with Stitt, players, or any other Griz official. You see, unlike you, I have no need to chase jock-straps to appease my ego. I will tail-gate, imbibe to excess, and watch the game as any other Griz fan. I'll skip all of the dick-smoking and leave it to guys like you.
 
garizzalies said:
What's your favorite Playarapism:

A) Obviously, you've never played the game.
B) You do not even know who the potential big donors are.
C) I would gladly trade getting date raped periodically.
D) Other [Please indicate]


I'll add a couple:

"Denarius McGhee is a bit of a pussy."
"Tacklers should let up a bit when they have a free, blind shot on the QB, because it's mean to hit them as hard as you can." (This usually only applies to tacklers coming after a griz QB. All other QB's are fair game.)
 
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