Donaldson denied parole

[yellowstone60]

http://www.nbcmontana.com/news/former-griz-player-denied-parole/33286194

Good.

Personally, I hope the kid continues on the path to redemption, and I hope the young lady finds peace. I am cheering for both of them and their families.

:thumb:

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[Atlanta Griz1]

http://www.nbcmontana.com/news/former-griz-player-denied-parole/33286194

Good.

Have to agree with Ms Maroon. Bo Donaldson can do all of these things to redeem himself and be a better citizen, but in the end, he hasn't suffered, and won't feel the pain or anxiety that his victim will for the rest of her life. This whole cheering for Bo thing is ridiculous! I hope he continues to become a better human, but it's not about him and his fight.

Oh, BS to that. Donaldson have suffered plenty and will be impacted by this for the rest of his life. I just don't buy the rape is the worst thing in the world, death sentence, argument. It isn't. There are zillions of people with worse problems and who have suffered much more and continue to suffer. Look around. Look at people with handicapped kids. Look at families who lose their kids too early. Kole Schwartz family? How about the kids whose parents were murdered several weeks ago? Look at kids and people with cancer, or terminal cancer. I don't see any of those people claiming victimhood, and going public with how horrible things are. Most of them work to get peace with their situation, get up off the ground, and move on, with the help of family and friends. I lost a baby girl early. My dad died when I was 10. I would gladly trade getting date raped periodically to have them back.

Just don't turn your ridiculous and callous post into a joke about rape, or risk getting banned. Brint doesn't appreciate rape jokes. Oh, I forgot, you are immune from banning, Playa, with your perpetual "get-out-of-jail-free" card. :roll: :roll: :roll:

 

[AZGrizFan]

This is the problem with people bringing their personal experiences and judgements to subjects like this on a football board. It wasn't a "rah rah Bo thread." Just a few folks expressing hope that all the parties in this story can continue healing from this (and yes, Bo too). But I suppose in typical Egriz fashion it will evolve into a moral pissing contest.

:clap: :thumb:

And the fact that the victim herself testified in Bo's favor speaks volumes.

 

[PlayerRep]

http://www.nbcmontana.com/news/former-griz-player-denied-parole/33286194

Good.

Have to agree with Ms Maroon. Bo Donaldson can do all of these things to redeem himself and be a better citizen, but in the end, he hasn't suffered, and won't feel the pain or anxiety that his victim will for the rest of her life. This whole cheering for Bo thing is ridiculous! I hope he continues to become a better human, but it's not about him and his fight.

Oh, BS to that. Donaldson have suffered plenty and will be impacted by this for the rest of his life. I just don't buy the rape is the worst thing in the world, death sentence, argument. It isn't. There are zillions of people with worse problems and who have suffered much more and continue to suffer. Look around. Look at people with handicapped kids. Look at families who lose their kids too early. Kole Schwartz family? How about the kids whose parents were murdered several weeks ago? Look at kids and people with cancer, or terminal cancer. I don't see any of those people claiming victimhood, and going public with how horrible things are. Most of them work to get peace with their situation, get up off the ground, and move on, with the help of family and friends. I lost a baby girl early. My dad died when I was 10. I would gladly trade getting date raped periodically to have them back.

Bullish#t! To compare suffering and justify what this guy has done is crap! I lost a three year old brother who was hit by a car, and a mom to cancer, and I carried on, but you seem to have little empathy for THIS VICTIM! Comparing apples to oranges and is stupid! My only point is: There should be no rah rah Bo thread! Raped! She was raped! And you think it's something that should be simply dealt with, and she should pull herself up by her boot straps and carry on! Dumb!

Rock, I hate to break the bad news to you, but I was comparing victims of rape, not Donaldson, to those other situations. I said these others "victims", like the ones you spoke of, suffer more than most victims of rape. Jeez, learn to read and think a bit.

 

[PlayerRep]

http://www.nbcmontana.com/news/former-griz-player-denied-parole/33286194

Good.

Have to agree with Ms Maroon. Bo Donaldson can do all of these things to redeem himself and be a better citizen, but in the end, he hasn't suffered, and won't feel the pain or anxiety that his victim will for the rest of her life. This whole cheering for Bo thing is ridiculous! I hope he continues to become a better human, but it's not about him and his fight.

Oh, BS to that. Donaldson have suffered plenty and will be impacted by this for the rest of his life. I just don't buy the rape is the worst thing in the world, death sentence, argument. It isn't. There are zillions of people with worse problems and who have suffered much more and continue to suffer. Look around. Look at people with handicapped kids. Look at families who lose their kids too early. Kole Schwartz family? How about the kids whose parents were murdered several weeks ago? Look at kids and people with cancer, or terminal cancer. I don't see any of those people claiming victimhood, and going public with how horrible things are. Most of them work to get peace with their situation, get up off the ground, and move on, with the help of family and friends. I lost a baby girl early. My dad died when I was 10. I would gladly trade getting date raped periodically to have them back.

Just don't turn your ridiculous and callous post into a joke about rape, or risk getting banned. Brint doesn't appreciate rape jokes. Oh, I forgot, you are immune from banning, Playa, with your perpetual "get-out-of-jail-free" card. :roll: :roll: :roll:

Okay Growler, the gloves are on. Ha. Be careful of getting your posts too close to your normal BS, because some of us will starting pointing out the BS, you will come back with your nonsense and soon you will be banned again. Thousand 1, thousand 2.

 

[MrTitleist]

http://www.nbcmontana.com/news/former-griz-player-denied-parole/33286194

Good.

Have to agree with Ms Maroon. Bo Donaldson can do all of these things to redeem himself and be a better citizen, but in the end, he hasn't suffered, and won't feel the pain or anxiety that his victim will for the rest of her life. This whole cheering for Bo thing is ridiculous! I hope he continues to become a better human, but it's not about him and his fight.

Oh, BS to that. Donaldson have suffered plenty and will be impacted by this for the rest of his life. I just don't buy the rape is the worst thing in the world, death sentence, argument. It isn't. There are zillions of people with worse problems and who have suffered much more and continue to suffer. Look around. Look at people with handicapped kids. Look at families who lose their kids too early. Kole Schwartz family? How about the kids whose parents were murdered several weeks ago? Look at kids and people with cancer, or terminal cancer. I don't see any of those people claiming victimhood, and going public with how horrible things are. Most of them work to get peace with their situation, get up off the ground, and move on, with the help of family and friends. I lost a baby girl early. My dad died when I was 10. I would gladly trade getting date raped periodically to have them back.

Just don't turn your ridiculous and callous post into a joke about rape, or risk getting banned. Brint doesn't appreciate rape jokes. Oh, I forgot, you are immune from banning, Playa, with your perpetual "get-out-of-jail-free" card. :roll: :roll: :roll:

37 posts to out yourself. You're slipping.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Have to agree with Ms Maroon. Bo Donaldson can do all of these things to redeem himself and be a better citizen, but in the end, he hasn't suffered, and won't feel the pain or anxiety that his victim will for the rest of her life. This whole cheering for Bo thing is ridiculous! I hope he continues to become a better human, but it's not about him and his fight.

Oh, BS to that. Donaldson have suffered plenty and will be impacted by this for the rest of his life. I just don't buy the rape is the worst thing in the world, death sentence, argument. It isn't. There are zillions of people with worse problems and who have suffered much more and continue to suffer. Look around. Look at people with handicapped kids. Look at families who lose their kids too early. Kole Schwartz family? How about the kids whose parents were murdered several weeks ago? Look at kids and people with cancer, or terminal cancer. I don't see any of those people claiming victimhood, and going public with how horrible things are. Most of them work to get peace with their situation, get up off the ground, and move on, with the help of family and friends. I lost a baby girl early. My dad died when I was 10. I would gladly trade getting date raped periodically to have them back.

Just don't turn your ridiculous and callous post into a joke about rape, or risk getting banned. Brint doesn't appreciate rape jokes. Oh, I forgot, you are immune from banning, Playa, with your perpetual "get-out-of-jail-free" card. :roll: :roll: :roll:

37 posts to out yourself. You're slipping.

WE all knew 30 posts ago...it appears YOU'RE the one that's slipping.... :lol:

 

[rimrockgriz]

says the first team all conference egrizer with a "clown post" used in a nat'l publication... :roll: have another round of delusion. BD =P.O.S. Any questions gramps?... :egriz: P.S. have a great Sunday ZIB.

 

[UMGriz75]

I remember being just stunned by the severity of the sentence for Beau Donaldson, though I couldn't tell you right now exactly what it was. But "hard", (i.e. state prison) time for a first-offense, non-violent sexual assault was unheard of in my days in the criminal justice system as a state prosecutor. I would not argue for the leniency of some of those previous sentences, but now it seems the pendulum has swung too far in the other direction--- of extreme punishment. I was also bothered by some segments of the Missoula community agitating towards "punishing the perpetrator" in the Donaldson case---- a little too close to mob rule for me.

With Donaldson I was also curious about the evidence---- since the only evidence months after the event was a telephone "confession" secretly tape recorded by the victim...

Too, she admitted that she was awake, and did not say "no" nor attempt to stop him. Although she said this was out of fear, this was also someone she had known most of her life, and they were before that time, "best friends." And perhaps that is why the uncharacteristic, drunken, behavior caused her great fear. However, from a trial standpoint, the admission would not be admissible, and her declaration that she did not say "no" nor try to, would be. Getting a conviction would have been an uphill battle.

However, Bo did the right thing, and pleaded guilty. Under all of the circumstances, the case was certainly a far cry from MSU's Frank Brown and the 15 year old -- where Montana's social justice warriors could not find their voices -- and the severity of the sentence handed down to Bo was something of a shock.

Even more so when Krakauer focused on it as an example of how Missoula somehow "mishandled" rape cases, an oddity noted even by the Washington Post. It was a better example of how "mob rule" affects sentencing.

 

[horribilisfan8184]

http://www.nbcmontana.com/news/former-griz-player-denied-parole/33286194

Good.

Have to agree with Ms Maroon. Bo Donaldson can do all of these things to redeem himself and be a better citizen, but in the end, he hasn't suffered, and won't feel the pain or anxiety that his victim will for the rest of her life. This whole cheering for Bo thing is ridiculous! I hope he continues to become a better human, but it's not about him and his fight.

Oh, BS to that. Donaldson have suffered plenty and will be impacted by this for the rest of his life. I just don't buy the rape is the worst thing in the world, death sentence, argument. It isn't. There are zillions of people with worse problems and who have suffered much more and continue to suffer. Look around. Look at people with handicapped kids. Look at families who lose their kids too early. Kole Schwartz family? How about the kids whose parents were murdered several weeks ago? Look at kids and people with cancer, or terminal cancer. I don't see any of those people claiming victimhood, and going public with how horrible things are. Most of them work to get peace with their situation, get up off the ground, and move on, with the help of family and friends. I lost a baby girl early. My dad died when I was 10. I would gladly trade getting date raped periodically to have them back.

You apparently did not watch the season ending episode of Outlander last night.....

 

[Ursa Major]

Awesome! Another rape thread!!

 

[EverettGriz]

I wouldn't classify it so much as yet another rape thread, Ursa. More like another Agenda Thread.

 

[Ursa Major]

I wouldn't classify it so much as yet another rape thread, Ursa. More like another Agenda Thread.

Yes! Thank you for the correction, Sir!

 

[DuCharme]

Dude just marginalized rape...

 

[getgrizzy]

http://www.nbcmontana.com/news/former-griz-player-denied-parole/33286194

Good.

Have to agree with Ms Maroon. Bo Donaldson can do all of these things to redeem himself and be a better citizen, but in the end, he hasn't suffered, and won't feel the pain or anxiety that his victim will for the rest of her life. This whole cheering for Bo thing is ridiculous! I hope he continues to become a better human, but it's not about him and his fight.

Oh, BS to that. Donaldson have suffered plenty and will be impacted by this for the rest of his life. I just don't buy the rape is the worst thing in the world, death sentence, argument. It isn't. There are zillions of people with worse problems and who have suffered much more and continue to suffer. Look around. Look at people with handicapped kids. Look at families who lose their kids too early. Kole Schwartz family? How about the kids whose parents were murdered several weeks ago? Look at kids and people with cancer, or terminal cancer. I don't see any of those people claiming victimhood, and going public with how horrible things are. Most of them work to get peace with their situation, get up off the ground, and move on, with the help of family and friends. I lost a baby girl early. My dad died when I was 10. I would gladly trade getting date raped periodically to have them back.

Well, I kind of doubt your dad would want you to get raped periodically or any other ridiculous sacrifice so he could live. And despite your online personality I doubt anyone would want that for you or anyone else. Holy shit.

 

[mtgrizrule]

Debating what ordeals/experiences are worse or harder to deal with is kind of ridiculous. The fact is each of us have our own ordeals/experiences that others may not share. The only people who truly know the impact of these things are others who too have experienced them. I am sure any rape victim lives with that nightmare every day, and the experience never leaves them. It haunts them for life.

As for losing a child or parent much too early in life, my niece and nephews lost their father much too early in their lives. That experience follows them every day of their life. As young kids, it was a very negative experience for them. As young adults, they do their best to remember the great memories of their father. Yes, it caused them a few psychological struggles along the way.

Being bullied as a kid also stays with a person for life. The horrible memories cause the victims to react to threats, trouble, and dangers differently than someone who never experienced bullying.

We should all take a moment and think before we post some of the things we do regarding the more sensitive subjects. Something you feel is harmless in a joke may not be so harmless to someone who has dealt with whatever you are supposedly joking about.

 

[poorgriz]

In PR's world... date rape isn't a GOOD thing of course, but it's not THAT big of a deal because there are other, more damaging things that can happen to people out there. I mean it's not like this guy had on a ski mask and pulled her off the street into a dark alley or something. Geez people. Oh, and it's also even slightly LESS of a big deal if the rapist is a griz football player. Beats the hell out of getting raped by some no name, unpopular thug.

 

[PlayerRep]

Dude just marginalized rape...

I just put date rape in perspective, which most of you seem unable or unwilling to do. Saying certain other things are worse is not marginalizing rape. You, and many like you, can only deal in cliches when they have nothing substantive to say. Rape culture. Rape tolerant. Etc.

 

[PlayerRep]

Which would you prefer for your 15 year daughter and yourself. Daughter involved in statutory rape with college basketball player, or daughter killed in a car accident, or serious cancer?

 

[PlayerRep]

In PR's world... date rape isn't a GOOD thing of course, but it's not THAT big of a deal because there are other, more damaging things that can happen to people out there. I mean it's not like this guy had on a ski mask and pulled her off the street into a dark alley or something. Geez people. Oh, and it's also even slightly LESS of a big deal if the rapist is a griz football player. Beats the hell out of getting raped by some no name, unpopular thug.

Pointing out that other things are worse is not the same as saying that date rape isn't a big deal. How many people do you know who have lost kids or lost parents as kids, carry a mattress around with them most everywhere they go (especially on campus)?