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Donaldson denied parole

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I wonder if anyone on the Parole Board read' the Krak's' book? Would any of them admit reading it? (#18 on NYT list this week) Unfortunate timing for his hearing. :fuel:
 
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Jury now deciding the current student rape case in Missoula. Does anyone know what trial Kathryn Haake is referring to in her tweet, "Not sure if this trial is going to be another hung jury"? I would tweet her but I refuse to tweet.
 
El Griz said:
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Jury now deciding the current student rape case in Missoula. Does anyone know what trial Kathryn Haake is referring to in her tweet, "Not sure if this trial is going to be another hung jury"? I would tweet her but I refuse to tweet.
Tweet or get off the pot
 
This seems to be some positive news for him:

"The parole board commended Donaldson for his progress and recommended boot camp at the prison followed by a program in Great Falls called Aftercare. According to the Great Falls Pre-Release Center's website, "The Transition Center provides a residential 30 bed program devoted to preparing graduates from the Treasure State Correctional Training Center (TSCTC) for progressively increased responsibility and freedom in the community."

If both are completed successfully, Donaldson will be granted another parole hearing."
 
"Missoula County Attorney Kirsten Pabst and Donaldson's victim both testified in favor of allowing Donaldson to attend a boot camp program at the Treasure State Correctional Center, followed by an aftercare program in Great Falls.

The board allowed Donaldson to attend both programs, and noted that he has successfully completed sexual offender and substance abuse treatment while in the state prison at Deer Lodge.

The board's director, Timothy Allred, told the Missoulian both the boot camp and aftercare programs are approximately 100 days long. After successful completion of the programs, he will be allowed to appear before the parole board again."

http://ravallirepublic.com/missoula/news/local/article_c54da34d-e3fb-5a1a-97cb-515a504abcc2.html
 
El Griz said:
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Jury now deciding the current student rape case in Missoula. Does anyone know what trial Kathryn Haake is referring to in her tweet, "Not sure if this trial is going to be another hung jury"? I would tweet her but I refuse to tweet.
Looks like the Jury found him not guilty, and Haake is not happy about it.
 
MsMaroon said:
http://www.nbcmontana.com/news/former-griz-player-denied-parole/33286194

Good.

Personally, I hope the kid continues on the path to redemption, and I hope the young lady finds peace. I am cheering for both of them and their families.
 
Donaldson was certainly treated differently than the MSU Basketball player that got 30 days (later upped to 90) in jail and three years on probation (later upped to six) for raping a 15 year old twice.

http://billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regional/montana/former-msu-basketball-player-pleads-guilty-in-rape-case/article_f5f96397-bf3b-5580-906f-5d5d2d2ecc0f.html

Black basketballer only gets 90 days for raping a 15-year-old girl

Frank Brown. Judge Mike Salvagni. A former Montana State University basketball player was sentenced Monday to 90 days in jail for twice raping a 15-year-old girl, at least once when she was passed out after drinking whiskey with him. District Judge Mike Salvagni also gave Frank Brown a six-year deferred sentence and ordered him to undergo treatment and register as a sexual offender. Brown, 21, of Las Vegas, apologized to the court, then asked to serve his jail time at a future date. The girl, now 16, told Brown she was angry at him and said he had shown no remorse. "I've lost almost all of my friends," she said.
http://www.newnation.org/Archives/black-sports-051002.html

Odd that nobody wrote a book about it.
 
SoldierGriz said:
MsMaroon said:
http://www.nbcmontana.com/news/former-griz-player-denied-parole/33286194

Good.

Personally, I hope the kid continues on the path to redemption, and I hope the young lady finds peace. I am cheering for both of them and their families.

:thumb:
 
MsMaroon said:
http://www.nbcmontana.com/news/former-griz-player-denied-parole/33286194

Good.

Have to agree with Ms Maroon. Bo Donaldson can do all of these things to redeem himself and be a better citizen, but in the end, he hasn't suffered, and won't feel the pain or anxiety that his victim will for the rest of her life. This whole cheering for Bo thing is ridiculous! I hope he continues to become a better human, but it's not about him and his fight.
 
rocklobster said:
MsMaroon said:
http://www.nbcmontana.com/news/former-griz-player-denied-parole/33286194

Good.

Have to agree with Ms Maroon. Bo Donaldson can do all of these things to redeem himself and be a better citizen, but in the end, he hasn't suffered, and won't feel the pain or anxiety that his victim will for the rest of her life. This whole cheering for Bo thing is ridiculous! I hope he continues to become a better human, but it's not about him and his fight.

Oh, BS to that. Donaldson have suffered plenty and will be impacted by this for the rest of his life. I just don't buy the rape is the worst thing in the world, death sentence, argument. It isn't. There are zillions of people with worse problems and who have suffered much more and continue to suffer. Look around. Look at people with handicapped kids. Look at families who lose their kids too early. Kole Schwartz family? How about the kids whose parents were murdered several weeks ago? Look at kids and people with cancer, or terminal cancer. I don't see any of those people claiming victimhood, and going public with how horrible things are. Most of them work to get peace with their situation, get up off the ground, and move on, with the help of family and friends. I lost a baby girl early. My dad died when I was 10. I would gladly trade getting date raped periodically to have them back.
 
PlayerRep said:
rocklobster said:
MsMaroon said:
http://www.nbcmontana.com/news/former-griz-player-denied-parole/33286194

Good.

Have to agree with Ms Maroon. Bo Donaldson can do all of these things to redeem himself and be a better citizen, but in the end, he hasn't suffered, and won't feel the pain or anxiety that his victim will for the rest of her life. This whole cheering for Bo thing is ridiculous! I hope he continues to become a better human, but it's not about him and his fight.

Oh, BS to that. Donaldson have suffered plenty and will be impacted by this for the rest of his life. I just don't buy the rape is the worst thing in the world, death sentence, argument. It isn't. There are zillions of people with worse problems and who have suffered much more and continue to suffer. Look around. Look at people with handicapped kids. Look at families who lose their kids too early. Kole Schwartz family? How about the kids whose parents were murdered several weeks ago? Look at kids and people with cancer, or terminal cancer. I don't see any of those people claiming victimhood, and going public with how horrible things are. Most of them work to get peace with their situation, get up off the ground, and move on, with the help of family and friends. I lost a baby girl early. My dad died when I was 10. I would gladly trade getting date raped periodically to have them back.
What's up with the parents who have children with disabilities suffering reference? Disability is a part of life and if you feel pity towards them that's on you not them.
 
How about consistency in sentencing. Frank Brown vs Bo Donaldson. Vast discrepancy. For a real hoot, read the Montana Board of Parole and Probation's Values statement.
 
PlayerRep said:
rocklobster said:
MsMaroon said:
http://www.nbcmontana.com/news/former-griz-player-denied-parole/33286194

Good.

Have to agree with Ms Maroon. Bo Donaldson can do all of these things to redeem himself and be a better citizen, but in the end, he hasn't suffered, and won't feel the pain or anxiety that his victim will for the rest of her life. This whole cheering for Bo thing is ridiculous! I hope he continues to become a better human, but it's not about him and his fight.

Oh, BS to that. Donaldson have suffered plenty and will be impacted by this for the rest of his life. I just don't buy the rape is the worst thing in the world, death sentence, argument. It isn't. There are zillions of people with worse problems and who have suffered much more and continue to suffer. Look around. Look at people with handicapped kids. Look at families who lose their kids too early. Kole Schwartz family? How about the kids whose parents were murdered several weeks ago? Look at kids and people with cancer, or terminal cancer. I don't see any of those people claiming victimhood, and going public with how horrible things are. Most of them work to get peace with their situation, get up off the ground, and move on, with the help of family and friends. I lost a baby girl early. My dad died when I was 10. I would gladly trade getting date raped periodically to have them back.

Bullish#t! To compare suffering and justify what this guy has done is crap! I lost a three year old brother who was hit by a car, and a mom to cancer, and I carried on, but you seem to have little empathy for THIS VICTIM! Comparing apples to oranges and is stupid! My only point is: There should be no rah rah Bo thread! Raped! She was raped! And you think it's something that should be simply dealt with, and she should pull herself up by her boot straps and carry on! Dumb!
 
This is the problem with people bringing their personal experiences and judgements to subjects like this on a football board. It wasn't a "rah rah Bo thread." Just a few folks expressing hope that all the parties in this story can continue healing from this (and yes, Bo too). But I suppose in typical Egriz fashion it will evolve into a moral pissing contest.
 
Alaska, I think you're right. Shaping up to be a decompressión session, critical incident review, whatever the current térm is. It can devolves into something totally off subject. These' group sessions' don't cost what individual psychotherapy does.
 
Alaska Griz said:
This is the problem with people bringing their personal experiences and judgements to subjects like this on a football board. It wasn't a "rah rah Bo thread." Just a few folks expressing hope that all the parties in this story can continue healing from this (and yes, Bo too). But I suppose in typical Egriz fashion it will evolve into a moral pissing contest.

:clap: :thumb:
 
I remember being just stunned by the severity of the sentence for Beau Donaldson, though I couldn't tell you right now exactly what it was. But "hard", (i.e. state prison) time for a first-offense, non-violent sexual assault was unheard of in my days in the criminal justice system as a state prosecutor. I would not argue for the leniency of some of those previous sentences, but now it seems the pendulum has swung too far in the other direction--- of extreme punishment. I was also bothered by some segments of the Missoula community agitating towards "punishing the perpetrator" in the Donaldson case---- a little too close to mob rule for me.

With Donaldson I was also curious about the evidence---- since the only evidence months after the event was a telephone "confession" secretly tape recorded by the victim. The police would certainly be prohibited from introducing such evidence against a criminal defendant, perhaps it was allowed because the person recording it was not law enforcement. Still, there is a state law forbidding the tape recording of telephone conversations unless the other participants are advised of the recording and agree to it.

I just wish that both of the young people involved in this awful event can become healed and go on to lead productive lives. Otherwise a complete tragedy.
 
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