Donaldson admits guilt in monitored phone call

[tampa_griz]

Do the crime and DO THE TIME.

Individual responsibility. Dont blame the coach, the school, or fans for your actions or the actions of others.

I get what you're saying. And I highly doubt a university or a coach can influence someone to commit such a horrible offense. But more to BAC's point, if we're going to congratulate athletes for actions off the field that make us proud (classroom performance, community involvement, etc.) because they represent UM in a positive manner, then we have to be ashamed when they foul up too. Ya can't have it both ways.

 

[Grizbacker1]

As usual from seeing Beau's Griz photo used with the story - the crime is connected to the costume. Beau Donaldson the football player wasn't wearing his uniform when he commited the rape. This is an act of an individual who just happens to have an athletic scholarship. I've seen this point made before and I agree 100%. Too say this reflects badly on the football program bothers me... when in fact, it should reflect badly on his personal values and be an embarrassment to his family. Bad life decisions and bad blocking/tackling are two different things.

That said, when student-athletes garner academic honors or do great things in the community (that have nothing to do with football), we all definitely want that goodwill to be attached to the athletic program. We can't have it both ways.

It may not be fair (I know MSU fans would certainly have loved to segregate football activities from off-the-field activities for a whole truckload of our players several years ago), but that's just the reality of it.

When a college football team goes out and proactively recruits a player to come to your school to be a football player (essentially, to be a face for marketing the University), ALL aspects of that person's personal and on-the-field life (good and bad) are going to be attached to the team and the school.

BAC is right

 

[SAVAGE PAW]

Do the crime and DO THE TIME.

Individual responsibility. Dont blame the coach, the school, or fans for your actions or the actions of others.

I get what you're saying. And I highly doubt a university or a coach can influence someone to commit such a horrible offense. But more to BAC's point, if we're going to congratulate athletes for actions off the field that make us proud (classroom performance, community involvement, etc.) because they represent UM in a positive manner, then we have to be ashamed when they foul up too. Ya can't have it both ways.

Right on Tampa and those who think differently are a part of the problem.

 

[EverettGriz]

As usual from seeing Beau's Griz photo used with the story - the crime is connected to the costume. Beau Donaldson the football player wasn't wearing his uniform when he commited the rape. This is an act of an individual who just happens to have an athletic scholarship. I've seen this point made before and I agree 100%. Too say this reflects badly on the football program bothers me... when in fact, it should reflect badly on his personal values and be an embarrassment to his family. Bad life decisions and bad blocking/tackling are two different things.

That said, when student-athletes garner academic honors or do great things in the community (that have nothing to do with football), we all definitely want that goodwill to be attached to the athletic program. We can't have it both ways.

It may not be fair (I know MSU fans would certainly have loved to segregate football activities from off-the-field activities for a whole truckload of our players several years ago), but that's just the reality of it.

When a college football team goes out and proactively recruits a player to come to your school to be a football player (essentially, to be a face for marketing the University), ALL aspects of that person's personal and on-the-field life (good and bad) are going to be attached to the team and the school.

+1

Like it or not, players' actions are -- to the public -- a reflection of the team/school they represent. We can all agree that the staff was in no way responsible for what happened. But the other side of that coin is that they also cannot be immune to the negative publicity which occurs after it. It comes with territory and every head coach knows it when they take the job.

 

[grizatwork]

Do the crime and DO THE TIME.

Individual responsibility. Dont blame the coach, the school, or fans for your actions or the actions of others.

I get what you're saying. And I highly doubt a university or a coach can influence someone to commit such a horrible offense. But more to BAC's point, if we're going to congratulate athletes for actions off the field that make us proud (classroom performance, community involvement, etc.) because they represent UM in a positive manner, then we have to be ashamed when they foul up too. Ya can't have it both ways.

Right on Tampa and those who think differently are a part of the problem.

No problem with that here. I am thoroughly disgusted and ashamed that this is in any way associated with my university.

 

[Raider]

Do the crime and DO THE TIME.

Individual responsibility. Dont blame the coach, the school, or fans for your actions or the actions of others.

I get what you're saying. And I highly doubt a university or a coach can influence someone to commit such a horrible offense. But more to BAC's point, if we're going to congratulate athletes for actions off the field that make us proud (classroom performance, community involvement, etc.) because they represent UM in a positive manner, then we have to be ashamed when they foul up too. Ya can't have it both ways.

Right on Tampa and those who think differently are a part of the problem.

It is naïve to think you can predict what a player will do, period. There are those that think we can somehow “pre-screen” athletes to see if they will be a problem. Not realistic.

That being said, you can certainly create a zero tolerance atmosphere, which we haven’t exactly done here. That is the only way to start to remedy the problem moving forward, in my opinion.

We may not all agree on the source of the problem, like you and I do not. (sorry for being an a-hole about that, by the way)

However, I think we can all agree, for the most part, that something drastic needs to be done….and right now.

 

[SAVAGE PAW]

Hey Raider,

No problem here partner. I'm cool with you. Your passionate and I understand that.

 

[Growler1]

Why would someone rape their friend?

if you are willing to rape someone....i doubt you care too much about friendship and other morals.....

steriods

 

[Growler1]

http://missoulian.com/news/local/af...cle_0080f54c-3aed-11e1-8b92-0019bb2963f4.html

This is just that damned Missoulian trying to bring down the Griz football program again!

 

[Grizmayor]

As usual from seeing Beau's Griz photo used with the story - the crime is connected to the costume. Beau Donaldson the football player wasn't wearing his uniform when he commited the rape. This is an act of an individual who just happens to have an athletic scholarship. I've seen this point made before and I agree 100%. Too say this reflects badly on the football program bothers me... when in fact, it should reflect badly on his personal values and be an embarrassment to his family. Bad life decisions and bad blocking/tackling are two different things.

That said, when student-athletes garner academic honors or do great things in the community (that have nothing to do with football), we all definitely want that goodwill to be attached to the athletic program. We can't have it both ways.

It may not be fair (I know MSU fans would certainly have loved to segregate football activities from off-the-field activities for a whole truckload of our players several years ago), but that's just the reality of it.

When a college football team goes out and proactively recruits a player to come to your school to be a football player (essentially, to be a face for marketing the University), ALL aspects of that person's personal and on-the-field life (good and bad) are going to be attached to the team and the school.

BAC is right

My point exactly... as Usual, the person's crime is being connected to the costume. I've had personal business problems aired in the Billings Gazette attributed to the Mayor, instead of my business. Ummmm... upon calling to bitch, I was told it sold newspapers. Well duh. But nowhere did the problem involve the city or the mayoral position, but yet, it was in the headline. Total BS. Nothing you can do about it when sensationalism and $$$ are involved.

 

[Evizzerate]

As usual from seeing Beau's Griz photo used with the story - the crime is connected to the costume. Beau Donaldson the football player wasn't wearing his uniform when he commited the rape. This is an act of an individual who just happens to have an athletic scholarship. I've seen this point made before and I agree 100%. Too say this reflects badly on the football program bothers me... when in fact, it should reflect badly on his personal values and be an embarrassment to his family. Bad life decisions and bad blocking/tackling are two different things.

That said, when student-athletes garner academic honors or do great things in the community (that have nothing to do with football), we all definitely want that goodwill to be attached to the athletic program. We can't have it both ways.

It may not be fair (I know MSU fans would certainly have loved to segregate football activities from off-the-field activities for a whole truckload of our players several years ago), but that's just the reality of it.

When a college football team goes out and proactively recruits a player to come to your school to be a football player (essentially, to be a face for marketing the University), ALL aspects of that person's personal and on-the-field life (good and bad) are going to be attached to the team and the school.

BAC is right

Agreed. And let whatever heads roll upon the outcome of Barz' investigation or the press beats her to it.

 

[grizindabox]

Why would someone rape their friend?

if you are willing to rape someone....i doubt you care too much about friendship and other morals.....

steriods

what is a steriod?

 

[urmom]

Well he has Datsapoulos for a lawyer.... http://www.montanakaimin.com/news/judge-reduces-donaldson-s-bail-sets-next-court-date-1.2739134#.TwuaWVbwGuJ" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

 

[Silvertip]

If there is a bigger, insensitive wooden-headed moron on egriz than jcu27 I don't want to know about it.

 

[mtgrizrule]

AGAIN, my prayers to the victim, and her family.

As for the crime, for the life of me, I cannot see what would ever provoke an action like this by any human being. It is sick and disgusting, and I do hope he gets help.

If there is a positive note to this, I have posted a few times, how I wished celebrities, and athletes in trouble with the law would just fess up, if guilty, instead of fighting the charges. My God, this kind of crime is not exactly what I had in mind to fess up to. Then again, I have yet to read anything of the links posted, so If I misunderstand any of this, that is why. I am sort of burned out reading about this.

 

[grizatheart]

I feel for the girl and her family. If he is guilty and it sounds like he is, I hope the lord has mercy on his soul. All I can say tho, is if someone did or does do this to my daughter, you will never have to worry about it going to trial. Lots of desert here in Nevada and some of it is only accessable by plane and since I have one of those, well you get the picture.

 

[PlayerRep]

Well he has Datsapoulos for a lawyer.... http://www.montanakaimin.com/news/judge-reduces-donaldson-s-bail-sets-next-court-date-1.2739134#.TwuaWVbwGuJ" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Bail reduced to $50,000.

 

[grizindabox]

Well he has Datsapoulos for a lawyer.... http://www.montanakaimin.com/news/judge-reduces-donaldson-s-bail-sets-next-court-date-1.2739134#.TwuaWVbwGuJ" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Bail reduced to $50,000.

So are you saying he is only half as guilty?

 

[George Ferguson]

i almost think we as fans should quit posting on the donaldson thing. For once when it comes to this crap we have an actual answer. He has been caught admitting his guilt. He'll have his day in court, he'll be found guilty and I'm hoping for a fairly harsh sentence. I was annoyed that we haven't heard from Pflu on this but understanding his father just passed away, I can see why. But the bottom line is, Donaldson is done as a Grizzly, even if the school hasn't announced it. Let's at least move his threads to a different forum and quit giving him more pub then he deserves.

 

[PlayerRep]

i almost think we as fans should quit posting on the donaldson thing. For once when it comes to this crap we have an actual answer. He has been caught admitting his guilt. He'll have his day in court, he'll be found guilty and I'm hoping for a fairly harsh sentence. I was annoyed that we haven't heard from Pflu on this but understanding his father just passed away, I can see why. But the bottom line is, Donaldson is done as a Grizzly, even if the school hasn't announced it. Let's at least move his threads to a different forum and quit giving him more pub then he deserves.

Hear from Pflu on this at this point? You can't be serious. The affidavit's release occurred only hours ago. It's obviously not good news for Donaldson, but there has to be some investigation by the university and I would think the university would have to give Donaldson's side a chance to provide information. What's the rush? Football activities aren't taking place. School isn't in session.