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[ordigger]

NAU isn't getting in which also means either is Montana. Pretty simple comparison of the wins

NAU had no relevance towards Montana getting in. For UM it was always about winning last two games, and they would make it. This is still the case. Some other FCS bubble teams loss today.

 

[ordigger]

Griz are in with a win. Cats in either way now that NAU loses. Cal Poly may be back in the hunt with the NAU loss.

CP was always a lock

 

[grizindabox]

ordigger, so if Poly was a lock who would have been left out if NAU would have won the conference?

 

[bobcatOninetails]

Griz are in with a win. Cats in either way now that NAU loses. Cal Poly may be back in the hunt with the NAU loss.

Don't know for sure if the Cats are in if they lose next week but griz are def in if they win. Should be one for the ages.

 

[grzz]

Aug. 30 at San Diego State L, 38-7 FinalShow
Sep. 6 at Abilene Christian W, 27-21 FinalShow
Sep. 13 N.M. Highlands W, 62-23 FinalShow
Sep. 20 at South Dakota L, 28-21 FinalShow
Sep. 27 Cal Poly * W, 38-35 FinalShow
Oct. 4 at Northern Colorado * L, 24-17 FinalShow
Oct. 18 at Portland State * W, 21-17 FinalShow
Oct. 25 Eastern Washington * W, 28-27 FinalShow
Nov. 1 at Weber State * W, 29-22 FinalShow
Nov. 8 UC Davis * W, 23-21 FinalShow
Nov. 15 at North Dakota * L, 30-28 FinalShow
Nov. 22 Southern Utah * 2:00 PM

Abilene Christian is an FCS win that counts...this is what pissed me off about how we schedule. We could just as easily find a cupcake that actually counts for a win...

 

[Robsnotes4u]

Griz are in with a win. Cats in either way now that NAU loses. Cal Poly may be back in the hunt with the NAU loss.

I don't the think the NAU game affected Cal Poly. The ISU game helped them.
1. They beat both Montana teams
2. lost to ISU who was beat by MSU, thus eliminated.
3. They are in before Montana with two wins, an 8 D1 overall.

Cats are not guaranteed yet.

 

[jodcon]

Aug. 30 at San Diego State L, 38-7 FinalShow
Sep. 6 at Abilene Christian W, 27-21 FinalShow
Sep. 13 N.M. Highlands W, 62-23 FinalShow
Sep. 20 at South Dakota L, 28-21 FinalShow
Sep. 27 Cal Poly * W, 38-35 FinalShow
Oct. 4 at Northern Colorado * L, 24-17 FinalShow
Oct. 18 at Portland State * W, 21-17 FinalShow
Oct. 25 Eastern Washington * W, 28-27 FinalShow
Nov. 1 at Weber State * W, 29-22 FinalShow
Nov. 8 UC Davis * W, 23-21 FinalShow
Nov. 15 at North Dakota * L, 30-28 FinalShow
Nov. 22 Southern Utah * 2:00 PM

Abilene Christian is an FCS win that counts...this is what pissed me off about how we schedule. We could just as easily find a cupcake that actually counts for a win...

In hindsight maybe lining up games at NDSU and Wyoming may have been a little bigger of a nugget to chew than we wanted to start the year, 2 losses makes your margin for error so much thinner and with EWU and Poly both coming up on the road the potential for ...well, this...is more likely. Fortunately there is still hope if we take care of business next week, and then everybody is 0-0 again.

 

[grizindabox]

Griz are in with a win. Cats in either way now that NAU loses. Cal Poly may be back in the hunt with the NAU loss.

In my opinion

I don't the think the NAU game affected Cal Poly. The ISU game helped them.
1. They beat both Montana teams
2. lost to ISU who was beat by MSU, thus eliminated.
3. They are in before Montana with two wins, an 8 D1 overall.

Cats are not guaranteed yet.

FIFY

 

[grizindabox]

Aug. 30 at San Diego State L, 38-7 FinalShow
Sep. 6 at Abilene Christian W, 27-21 FinalShow
Sep. 13 N.M. Highlands W, 62-23 FinalShow
Sep. 20 at South Dakota L, 28-21 FinalShow
Sep. 27 Cal Poly * W, 38-35 FinalShow
Oct. 4 at Northern Colorado * L, 24-17 FinalShow
Oct. 18 at Portland State * W, 21-17 FinalShow
Oct. 25 Eastern Washington * W, 28-27 FinalShow
Nov. 1 at Weber State * W, 29-22 FinalShow
Nov. 8 UC Davis * W, 23-21 FinalShow
Nov. 15 at North Dakota * L, 30-28 FinalShow
Nov. 22 Southern Utah * 2:00 PM

Abilene Christian is an FCS win that counts...this is what pissed me off about how we schedule. We could just as easily find a cupcake that actually counts for a win...

In hindsight maybe lining up games at NDSU and Wyoming may have been a little bigger of a nugget to chew than we wanted to start the year, 2 losses makes your margin for error so much thinner and with EWU and Poly both coming up on the road the potential for ...well, this...is more likely. Fortunately there is still hope if we take care of business next week, and then everybody is 0-0 again.

scheduling both Wyoming and NDSU was a poor decision based on the goal of getting into the playoffs...no question

 

[Robsnotes4u]

ordigger, so if Poly was a lock who would have been left out if NAU would have won the conference?

You aren't guaranteed X number of teams to get in the playoff. So that statement doesn't make any sense.

NAU opens up a possibility for all of the FCS because you took a team that was already in, EWU, and gave them an Autobid.

The conference now may get one less team in.
NAU wins out has 7 D1 wins
UM wins out has 7 D1 wins
MSU loses has 7 D1 wins.

all of them, two of them or maybe even none will be in the conversation for one of the last four in.

I think ISU losing today was huge for the bubble teams. As Dannen said in both his video and interview with Kolpack, they watch probably a quarter of each game of the teams they have been talking about in the Committee meetings at the end of the year. Watching any quarter of ISU would be a positive today. If they take most of the quarter of the todays Griz game, it will be a huge negative, same with NAU.

 

[Robsnotes4u]

Griz are in with a win. Cats in either way now that NAU loses. Cal Poly may be back in the hunt with the NAU loss.

In my opinion

I don't the think the NAU game affected Cal Poly. The ISU game helped them.
1. They beat both Montana teams
2. lost to ISU who was beat by MSU, thus eliminated.
3. They are in before Montana with two wins, an 8 D1 overall.

Cats are not guaranteed yet.

FIFY

My statement started out "I" which would mean my opinion

 

[grizindabox]

ordigger, so if Poly was a lock who would have been left out if NAU would have won the conference?

You aren't guaranteed X number of teams to get in the playoff. So that statement doesn't make any sense.

NAU opens up a possibility for all of the FCS because you took a team that was already in, EWU, and gave them an Autobid.

The conference now may get one less team in.
NAU wins out has 7 D1 wins
UM wins out has 7 D1 wins
MSU loses has 7 D1 wins.

all of them, two of them or maybe even none will be in the conversation for one of the last four in.

I think ISU losing today was huge for the bubble teams. As Dannen said in both his video and interview with Kolpack, they watch probably a quarter of each game of the teams they have been talking about in the Committee meetings at the end of the year. Watching any quarter of ISU would be a positive today. If they take most of the quarter of the todays Griz game, it will be a huge negative, same with NAU.

It does if you know that digger believes that Poly, UM, MSU, and EWU are all locks if they are at least 8-4. If NAU would have won, I am assuming he believes all 5 would have been in the playoffs.

 

[JayLarson]

Losing to SD, UNC, and North Dakota, I don't care who they beat no way in hell that NAU gets in. I think 4 teams from the Big Sky can get in but I am sure that 3 get in, EWU is in for sure is the only thing that we know. I doubt that ISU will get alot of respect, seems that they have not been a playoff team. Cal Poly should get in, and the winner of Griz-cat will get in.

 

[ordigger]

ordigger, so if Poly was a lock who would have been left out if NAU would have won the conference?

IMO

EWU, CP and NAU would've been in.

If ISU lost today.....elimated.
If ISU won today.....bubble.
If MSU loss next week combined with ISU loss...MSU out.
If MSU won next week ...... UM out.
If ISU had won, and UM won next week....I believe UM would've been selected ahead of ISU because of their losses vs some of ISU wins (against lower divisions schools). But not guaranteed.

Big Sky will get 4 especially with some of the FCS losses today that took teams off the bubble in other conferences.

 

[grizindabox]

ordigger, so if Poly was a lock who would have been left out if NAU would have won the conference?

IMO

EWU, CP and NAU would've been in.

If ISU lost today.....elimated.
If ISU won today.....bubble.
If MSU loss next week combined with ISU loss...MSU out.
If MSU won next week ...... UM out.
If ISU had won, and UM won next week....I believe UM would've been selected ahead of ISU because of their losses vs some of ISU wins (against lower divisions schools). But not guaranteed.

Big Sky will get 4 especially with some of the FCS losses today that took teams off the bubble in other conferences.

so EWU, CP, NAU and either MSU/UM would have been your 4?

 

[ordigger]

ordigger, so if Poly was a lock who would have been left out if NAU would have won the conference?

IMO

EWU, CP and NAU would've been in.

If ISU lost today.....elimated.
If ISU won today.....bubble.
If MSU loss next week combined with ISU loss...MSU out.
If MSU won next week ...... UM out.
If ISU had won, and UM won next week....I believe UM would've been selected ahead of ISU because of their losses vs some of ISU wins (against lower divisions schools). But not guaranteed.

Big Sky will get 4 especially with some of the FCS losses today that took teams off the bubble in other conferences.

so EWU, CP, NAU and either MSU/UM would have been your 4?

Sort of....but not if ISU had won today....and UM won next week. It would've come down to those two. UM/ISU

Don't forget two of ISU's wins were against Chadron St & Simon Frasier. And of course this is all assuming that CP wins out....then they are a lock.

 

[EWURanger29]

I think the BSC gets three in. EWU (auto), CP, and the winner of UM/MSU.

After today, I think NAU and ISU are both OUT.

 

[AZGrizFan]

NAU isn't getting in which also means either is Montana. Pretty simple comparison of the wins

Compare the losses.

 

[BWahlberg]

My guess:

EWU: lock
MSU: lock

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UM: win and they're in vs MSU, lose and they're out
CPSLO: win vs UCD and USD and they're in - lose 1 and they're out

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ISU: Out. Victims of poor scheduling, even with a win against Weber they'll have just 6 division 1 wins.
NAU: On the bubble. Bad losses to USD, UNC, and UND probably will keep them out of the post season

 

[AZGrizFan]

My guess:

EWU: lock
MSU: lock

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UM: win and they're in vs MSU, lose and they're out
CPSLO: win vs UCD and USD and they're in - lose 1 and they're out

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ISU: Out. Victims of poor scheduling, even with a win against Weber they'll have just 6 division 1 wins.
NAU: On the bubble. Bad losses to USD, UNC, and UND probably will keep them out of the post season

Somebody please attempt to explain to me how a team can beat EWU and CP, and lose to USD, UND and UNC. That just don't make no sense!