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Does Stitt Have Supporters?

ranco said:
UMGriz75 said:
markson161 said:
We've seen the trajectory of this program
"Trajectory" traces a predetermined route. That is a complete fallacy in football coaching. Coaches win or lose based on their abilities. A good coach may take a couple of years, or even three or four, to rebuild a genuinely destroyed or moribund program. Those facts don't fit here.[/quote

like it or not Stitt inherited a very average team and a program on the decline. He did not inheritate a championship caliber team, nothing even close.

according to you no coach deserves more than two years to prove themseleves. For all the reasons pointed out be by Titlests such thinking is simply moronic and would do nothing but ensure mediocracy, or worse, for years to come. I don't know if Stitt will ultimately be succesful, but I do know that he deserves more time to prove himself.


If you believe that only a few posters on here are in favor of change go on believing that.
There were a lot of people in the stadium boxes and in the stands with the same opinion.
The last half of the season was dismal, to say you're in support of current players, but once he gets his own recruits we'll be much better, you're hypocritical.
It was coaching plan and simple, and to bring up Craig Bohl in a discussion about Stitt, but saying it's not for comparison is silly.
To not be able to adapt or willing to change during the game situations shows incompetence.
Not even bringing up the stupid green hat, that's just his plain arrogance.
A simple white Griz hat would be more visible.
Without Mississippi Valley and Sacramento State, what would have been the record? Who knows?
Continue to accept the mediocrity, it's followed him for 17 years now.
3 and out, Woo Hoo
 
IdahoGrizFan said:
Should ask the players if they are behind Stitt, they are the ones who really matter in this equation.
The last four games already gave you their answer. Four times. How many times do you want to ask the same question, and at what point is asking the same question over and over going to give you the answer you desire?
 
UMGriz75 said:
Fifth, this isn't a matter of a coach getting enough time to install his approach in a program. This is a matter of the coach himself not having any experience at this level, who needs to get "DI thinking and experience" installed in himself. This isn't a matter of a coach re-inventing a program. This is the much tougher obstacle of a coach being forced to re-invent himself.

Joe Moglia, Lance Leipold, and Brian Kelly didn't have any experience at the D1 level before they became D1 coaches. It's not necessarily a requirement.

And before anyone starts reading more into this, no I'm not comparing Stitt to the three coaches above.
 
behappp said:
I know you know football Mr.T. Please let me know what would be your minimum expectations for Coach Stitt to accomplish in 2017 for him to get his contract renewed?

Win a 1st round playoff game, beat Eastern, beat MSU would be good starts. EWU might be ripe for the picking, especially in Missoula. MSU in Bozeman will be tough. 1st round playoff win is doable. FCS playoffs are such a crapshoot you could win a 1st round game then get sent to the worst possible place (in most years, it's NDSU) because of regionalization (which they say they're doing away with). But I have no idea what to expect at quarterback, which is obviously the catalyst for success with this team.
 
MrTitleist said:
UMGriz75 said:
Fifth, this isn't a matter of a coach getting enough time to install his approach in a program. This is a matter of the coach himself not having any experience at this level, who needs to get "DI thinking and experience" installed in himself. This isn't a matter of a coach re-inventing a program. This is the much tougher obstacle of a coach being forced to re-invent himself.
Joe Moglia, Lance Leipold, and Brian Kelly didn't have any experience at the D1 level before they became D1 coaches. It's not necessarily a requirement.
Got the logic backwards, bud. The lack of experience doesn't mean that they can't succeed; it means that you can't assume that they can. Unfortunately that was the assumption made with this hire.
 
MrTitleist said:
UMGriz75 said:
Fifth, this isn't a matter of a coach getting enough time to install his approach in a program. This is a matter of the coach himself not having any experience at this level, who needs to get "DI thinking and experience" installed in himself. This isn't a matter of a coach re-inventing a program. This is the much tougher obstacle of a coach being forced to re-invent himself.

Joe Moglia, Lance Leipold, and Brian Kelly didn't have any experience at the D1 level before they became D1 coaches. It's not necessarily a requirement.

And before anyone starts reading more into this, no I'm not comparing Stitt to the three coaches above.

Pitch forks and torches spotted at the feet of Touchdown Jesus.... just sayin'....
 
MrTitleist said:
behappp said:
I know you know football Mr.T. Please let me know what would be your minimum expectations for Coach Stitt to accomplish in 2017 for him to get his contract renewed?

Win a 1st round playoff game, beat Eastern, beat MSU would be good starts. EWU might be ripe for the picking, especially in Missoula. MSU in Bozeman will be tough. 1st round playoff win is doable. FCS playoffs are such a crapshoot you could win a 1st round game then get sent to the worst possible place (in most years, it's NDSU) because of regionalization (which they say they're doing away with). But I have no idea what to expect at quarterback, which is obviously the catalyst for success with this team.

So if you don't see this happen you will be willing to say Stitt should go?
After all, the question was what is the minimum you need to see to believe that Stitt should get a new contract.

And I agree with your minimum requirements, but I would sure hate to see the Scats win 2 in a row. How many years has it been since that happened?
 
behappp said:
So if you don't see this happen you will be willing to say Stitt should go?
After all, the question was what is the minimum you need to see to believe that Stitt should get a new contract.

And I agree with your minimum requirements, but I would sure hate to see the Scats win 2 in a row. How many years has it been since that happened?

2002-2003. Bobby and Joe's teams.

I don't know what my opinion will be. I'm not generally a 3 and out person for coaching changes. If we were going 1-10, 2-9, then yeah, I'd say GTFO.
 
G-BEARS said:
Wahlberg on twitter has been going off on retweeting something comparing Stitt to Don Read, also saying something about how we need to trust the process. Might look there.

RT'd it from our SID of sorts.

He needs 1 more year. First of all that's the term of his contract. Secondly he needs another year to hopefully show us that 6-5 or 7-4 for that matter are not acceptable and this team will be better. If not... then we find a new coach.
 
BWahlberg said:
He needs 1 more year. First of all that's the term of his contract. Secondly he needs another year to hopefully show us that 6-5 or 7-4 for that matter are not acceptable and this team will be better. If not... then we find a new coach.
The Titanic must continue to steer into the iceberg. It's in the Captain's contract.
 
UMGriz75 said:
BWahlberg said:
He needs 1 more year. First of all that's the term of his contract. Secondly he needs another year to hopefully show us that 6-5 or 7-4 for that matter are not acceptable and this team will be better. If not... then we find a new coach.
The Titanic must continue to steer into the iceberg. It's in the Captain's contract.

Let me in on that crystal ball you've got if you know how next year already unfolds.
 
BWahlberg said:
G-BEARS said:
Wahlberg on twitter has been going off on retweeting something comparing Stitt to Don Read, also saying something about how we need to trust the process. Might look there.

RT'd it from our SID of sorts.

He needs 1 more year. First of all that's the term of his contract. Secondly he needs another year to hopefully show us that 6-5 or 7-4 for that matter are not acceptable and this team will be better. If not... then we find a new coach.

I really really struggle thinking that the Griz can do better than 6-5 next season. Schedule is difficult and knowing what is coming back, 7-4 or better might be out of reach.
 
BWahlberg said:
UMGriz75 said:
BWahlberg said:
He needs 1 more year. First of all that's the term of his contract. Secondly he needs another year to hopefully show us that 6-5 or 7-4 for that matter are not acceptable and this team will be better. If not... then we find a new coach.
The Titanic must continue to steer into the iceberg. It's in the Captain's contract.
Let me in on that crystal ball you've got if you know how next year already unfolds.
It's not called a Crystal Ball; it's called a Compass.
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
BWahlberg said:
G-BEARS said:
Wahlberg on twitter has been going off on retweeting something comparing Stitt to Don Read, also saying something about how we need to trust the process. Might look there.

RT'd it from our SID of sorts.

He needs 1 more year. First of all that's the term of his contract. Secondly he needs another year to hopefully show us that 6-5 or 7-4 for that matter are not acceptable and this team will be better. If not... then we find a new coach.

I really really struggle thinking that the Griz can do better than 6-5 next season. Schedule is difficult and knowing what is coming back, 7-4 or better might be out of reach.

It really hinges on QB. If that can fall into place I see 9-2 or 8-3.

If not... yeah
 
BWahlberg said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
BWahlberg said:
G-BEARS said:
Wahlberg on twitter has been going off on retweeting something comparing Stitt to Don Read, also saying something about how we need to trust the process. Might look there.

RT'd it from our SID of sorts.

He needs 1 more year. First of all that's the term of his contract. Secondly he needs another year to hopefully show us that 6-5 or 7-4 for that matter are not acceptable and this team will be better. If not... then we find a new coach.

I really really struggle thinking that the Griz can do better than 6-5 next season. Schedule is difficult and knowing what is coming back, 7-4 or better might be out of reach.

It really hinges on QB. If that can fall into place I see 9-2 or 8-3.

If not... yeah

I would really like to see you break that down on the schedule.
 
A good coach can follow his program. A great coach can adapt, adjust and use what he has to achieve greatness. Hopefully he can do the latter. Would like great rivalry games in the future against the Cats. Just hope the Cats win. Both Coaches will be tested in the next few years.
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
BWahlberg said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
BWahlberg said:
RT'd it from our SID of sorts.

He needs 1 more year. First of all that's the term of his contract. Secondly he needs another year to hopefully show us that 6-5 or 7-4 for that matter are not acceptable and this team will be better. If not... then we find a new coach.

I really really struggle thinking that the Griz can do better than 6-5 next season. Schedule is difficult and knowing what is coming back, 7-4 or better might be out of reach.

It really hinges on QB. If that can fall into place I see 9-2 or 8-3.

If not... yeah

I would really like to see you break that down on the schedule.

Sure. So, again going off the assumption that we get it locked in at QB here;

Valpo - Win, at home, should be an easy opener

UW - loss

EWU - toss up, their defense isn't great, and they're going to be replacing all those WRs, game is at home

PSU - win, poor defense, losing their stud QB, bad season this year

ISU - win, improving but not a great team,

UND - toss up, its in Wa Griz, I'm wondering if UND this year is like last years SUU

Weber - toss up, honestly I've not really looked into their team since we haven't played them in a few years. But in their house and with the defense they've built up, I'd lean to a loss here if it were this year, but just not sure on what Weebz will look like next year.

NAU - win, later season game in Wa Griz usually doesn't go well for NAU. This one could be a hell of a game if Cookus is back and healthy.

UNC - win, again in our house and hopefully with far fewer execution errors this time around

MSU - win, they're not a great team yet and will still be young and lose some of their best talent on offense (Brekke and Newell).

Presumed D2 plug in team - win.

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So UW is the obvious loss, Weber, EWU, UND the toss ups. That's a swing from 7-4 to 10-1 depending on how they handle the three conference games. And two of the three are at home.

Again that's making a massive assumption at QB.
 
Brint, I agree. Yes, the Griz lost to a bunch of teams they play at home next season, but it could be very different next year. I actually think other than UDUB, that schedule is FAVORABLE. But I also agree, if the Griz can't find a QB, OL, and more pressure from the DE's, then it might be moot.
 
havgrizfan said:
Brint, I agree. Yes, the Griz lost to a bunch of teams they play at home next season, but it could be very different next year. I actually think other than UDUB, that schedule is FAVORABLE. But I also agree, if the Griz can't find a QB, OL, and more pressure from the DE's, then it might be moot.

Yep, it'll be interesting to see if Sims goes back to DE? If so Sims and Schye on the edge could be good.

OL... going to need these young guys to make big leaps. Especially on the right side of the line.
 
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