Did JJ get removed from Payton Watch?

[NorthwestFresh]

Yes, it happened and is fact.

See, was that so hard?

 

[grizzpa]

Seriously, Prukop is the real deal. If he was throwing and running for this kind of yardage against East Junior High - it would be remarkable. I wish he was a senior so we would not have to face him three years in a row.....

 

[EverettGriz]

And I didn't think eGriz threads could get any worse.

My bad.

 

[argh!]

And I didn't think eGriz threads could get any worse.

My bad.

i was at the garden bar. everyone was there.

your memory is short.

 

[gotgame75]

Oops double post. Mods please delete.

 

[gotgame75]

I am quite certain that was the point this poster was trying to make. That is what is she telling fact in all of this. If JJ was running the bobcat offense right now he would look every bit as good as Prukop (2011 ring a bell). If Prukop was running the Griz offense right now he'd look just as regular as JJ. It's crazy how big of a difference the right scheme for the right qb can make.

JJ 2011
13 games
205 for 343 (59.8%)
2,400 yards
21 TD 9 Int
133.5 passing efficiency
89 rushes for 506 yards
4 TD
12.31 points responsible for a game

Prukop 2014
7 games
121 for 175 (69.1%)
1859 yards
17 TD 4 Int
185.9 passing efficiency
105 rushes for 608 yards
11 TD
24 points responsible for a game

They won't let the facts get in the way of their opinion.

Prukop can run the zone read perfectly. That is what makes him so crazy good, besides being able to throw dimes and out run entire defenses. No way you could insert another talented qb like JJ and get the same results. It's a unique skillset to be able to run that offense like Prukop does, and it is what sets him apart.

You do realize that JJ ran the zone read his entire high school career and his first two years here under Pflugrad, right? His proficiency at the zone read (or read option) was the entire reason he was recruited here in the first place. JJ was running the zone read when he took us to the FCS semifinals against Sam Houston (and nearly won). This is saying nothing about how he compares directly to Prukop, but to say he wouldn't run the same offense nearly as well is just straight ignorant.

 

[nzone]

Say what you must but a lot of JJ's fall off as a senior has a lot to with his supporting cast. The offensive line lost both of its starting tackles then a backup at left tackle gets hurt which ends up putting in a true freshman to protect the blind side. Not to mention the fact a first year freshman playing the blocking tight end at that side(Horner). Joey Counts is out. Hagfors quits. Harper quits. Not to mention that our leading receiver(Henderson) is out. Ralston who is the best blocking tight end we have was out. Then to top it all off we have offensive coordinators who are basically held hostage by a 3 yards and a pile dust head coach. Creativity just went out the door. Go ahead and discredit JJ and compare him to a green, wet behind the year qb who is playing well the first part of a season. There is still a lot to this season but I'm sticking behind JJ all they way. With what he had to endure on and off the field and stay a Griz is a hell of a lot more than I can say for most of the idiots on this board.

 

[Robsnotes4u]

JJ 2011
13 games
205 for 343 (59.8%)
2,400 yards
21 TD 9 Int
133.5 passing efficiency
89 rushes for 506 yards
4 TD
12.31 points responsible for a game

Prukop 2014
7 games
121 for 175 (69.1%)
1859 yards
17 TD 4 Int
185.9 passing efficiency
105 rushes for 608 yards
11 TD
24 points responsible for a game

They won't let the facts get in the way of their opinion.

Prukop can run the zone read perfectly. That is what makes him so crazy good, besides being able to throw dimes and out run entire defenses. No way you could insert another talented qb like JJ and get the same results. It's a unique skillset to be able to run that offense like Prukop does, and it is what sets him apart.

You do realize that JJ ran the zone read his entire high school career and his first two years here under Pflugrad, right? His proficiency at the zone read (or read option) was the entire reason he was recruited here in the first place. JJ was running the zone read when he took us to the FCS semifinals against Sam Houston (and nearly won). This is saying nothing about how he compares directly to Prukop, but to say he wouldn't run the same offense nearly as well is just straight ignorant.

Saying he can run it is one thing, saying he can run it nearly as well is another. Saying he can is being a homer and ignorant. One only has to go as far as looking at the rushing, points responsible, etc. Prukop has equaled JJ in just over half the games.

 

[nzone]

First things first...haters(notes4u) are going to hate. If this is about the Payton my guess is neither JJ nor Prukop will it. Last year when JJ was setting efficiency records folks made reference to a lack of competition. Finicky bunch I guess. Bottom line is who plays well in the post season.

 

[Grizbeer]

Obviously the two name calling geniuses JCU and Grizpeer can't read the profile piece that says "I am a fan of inept offenses". Instead, they set out to change the discussion to name calling. Smooooth!

Obviously. Gosh I mean, yeah, that's obvious that I missed his profile piece. I mean, just read what I wrote. My bad, it's just that I really don't get sarcasm. I pretty much rely on people like David2 to fill me in when someone is being sarcastic.

 

[Chester Cheetah]

First things first...haters(notes4u) are going to hate. If this is about the Payton my guess is neither JJ nor Prukop will it. Last year when JJ was setting efficiency records folks made reference to a lack of competition. Finicky bunch I guess. Bottom line is who plays well in the post season.

except that they vote for those awards before any playoff games are played.

 

[LongTimeCatFan]

First things first...haters(notes4u) are going to hate. If this is about the Payton my guess is neither JJ nor Prukop will it. Last year when JJ was setting efficiency records folks made reference to a lack of competition. Finicky bunch I guess. Bottom line is who plays well in the post season.

except that they vote for those awards before any playoff games are played.

And it's mostly based on production stats. Not so much on efficiency.

 

[IroneagleXP]

JJ 2011
13 games
205 for 343 (59.8%)
2,400 yards
21 TD 9 Int
133.5 passing efficiency
89 rushes for 506 yards
4 TD
12.31 points responsible for a game

Prukop 2014
7 games
121 for 175 (69.1%)
1859 yards
17 TD 4 Int
185.9 passing efficiency
105 rushes for 608 yards
11 TD
24 points responsible for a game

They won't let the facts get in the way of their opinion.

Prukop can run the zone read perfectly. That is what makes him so crazy good, besides being able to throw dimes and out run entire defenses. No way you could insert another talented qb like JJ and get the same results. It's a unique skillset to be able to run that offense like Prukop does, and it is what sets him apart.

You do realize that JJ ran the zone read his entire high school career and his first two years here under Pflugrad, right? His proficiency at the zone read (or read option) was the entire reason he was recruited here in the first place. JJ was running the zone read when he took us to the FCS semifinals against Sam Houston (and nearly won). This is saying nothing about how he compares directly to Prukop, but to say he wouldn't run the same offense nearly as well is just straight ignorant.

Comparing the offense JJ ran back when you lost to SHSU to the offense that Prukop runs currently is straight up ignorant griz homer garbage. All trolling aside, Prukop makes JJ look pedestrian at best. You can't compare JJ to Prukop, period. And that is not to take anything away from JJ, his record speaks for itself. It is all about Prukop and him being that much better. Are you paying attention to the stats, articles, etc (no, not on BN or local papers- but rather national recognition) ?

 

[GRZFTBL]

Prukop is having a hell of a year but I bet JJ gets the win when they play each other.

 

[Robsnotes4u]

First things first...haters(notes4u) are going to hate. If this is about the Payton my guess is neither JJ nor Prukop will it. Last year when JJ was setting efficiency records folks made reference to a lack of competition. Finicky bunch I guess. Bottom line is who plays well in the post season.

JJ did not set any efficiency records, had great numbers for a couple of games, he ended at 154.67 which would put him in the top 10 but definitely not record breaking.

And you are correct JJ will not win it. If Adams was healthy he would probably win, and deserve it.
This year
Robertson of Villanova is at 203.8
Prukop at 185.9
JJ 114.9

 

[IroneagleXP]

Prukop is having a hell of a year but I bet JJ gets the win when they play each other.

It will be a battle. It will be MSU OL vs UM DL. MSU just has too many weapons to keep up man. Simple as that, but we will see come Nov. You should be much more worried about EWU though :thumb: . Where the hell is playarape these days? Did he finally get banned for his insolent nonsense?

 

[PlayerRep]

Prukop is having a hell of a year but I bet JJ gets the win when they play each other.

It will be a battle. It will be MSU OL vs UM DL. MSU just has too many weapons to keep up man. Simple as that, but we will see come Nov.

Nope, UM D will handle the Cat O, and UM will get the win, is still my view. You aren't even paying attention to the Griz. You have no clue. You are just a troll.

 

[EverettGriz]

They won't let the facts get in the way of their opinion.

Prukop can run the zone read perfectly. That is what makes him so crazy good, besides being able to throw dimes and out run entire defenses. No way you could insert another talented qb like JJ and get the same results. It's a unique skillset to be able to run that offense like Prukop does, and it is what sets him apart.

You do realize that JJ ran the zone read his entire high school career and his first two years here under Pflugrad, right? His proficiency at the zone read (or read option) was the entire reason he was recruited here in the first place. JJ was running the zone read when he took us to the FCS semifinals against Sam Houston (and nearly won). This is saying nothing about how he compares directly to Prukop, but to say he wouldn't run the same offense nearly as well is just straight ignorant.

Comparing the offense JJ ran back when you lost to SHSU to the offense that Prukop runs currently is straight up ignorant griz homer garbage. All trolling aside, Prukop makes JJ look pedestrian at best. You can't compare JJ to Prukop, period. And that is not to take anything away from JJ, his record speaks for itself. It is all about Prukop and him being that much better. Are you paying attention to the stats, articles, etc (no, not on BN or local papers- but rather national recognition) ?

Whatever troll.

What is it with all the cat trolls pretending to be fans of other teams? Although, when I think through it, I mean, I'd be damn embarrased to be a cat fan, so maybe that's it.

 

[nzone]

And yet The Griz are very much in the title hunt. Kinda cool even the haters know we have a much tougher schedule compared to the cat walk. This whole discussion is quite premature(here it comes). Just like one can't help but like what they see in prukop one can't dismiss the fact that Montana's defense is flat out rock and roll. Let's see how it goes in Missoula then compare....till then whatever. It is kinda funny tho when you want to see the defensive stats for teams the cats have played you start from the bottom and go up. It's faster that way.

 

[Robsnotes4u]

Prukop can run the zone read perfectly. That is what makes him so crazy good, besides being able to throw dimes and out run entire defenses. No way you could insert another talented qb like JJ and get the same results. It's a unique skillset to be able to run that offense like Prukop does, and it is what sets him apart.

You do realize that JJ ran the zone read his entire high school career and his first two years here under Pflugrad, right? His proficiency at the zone read (or read option) was the entire reason he was recruited here in the first place. JJ was running the zone read when he took us to the FCS semifinals against Sam Houston (and nearly won). This is saying nothing about how he compares directly to Prukop, but to say he wouldn't run the same offense nearly as well is just straight ignorant.

Comparing the offense JJ ran back when you lost to SHSU to the offense that Prukop runs currently is straight up ignorant griz homer garbage. All trolling aside, Prukop makes JJ look pedestrian at best. You can't compare JJ to Prukop, period. And that is not to take anything away from JJ, his record speaks for itself. It is all about Prukop and him being that much better. Are you paying attention to the stats, articles, etc (no, not on BN or local papers- but rather national recognition) ?

Whatever troll.

What is it with all the cat trolls pretending to be fans of other teams? Although, when I think through it, I mean, I'd be damn embarrased to be a cat fan, so maybe that's it.

Either you do not love football or don't have a clue. If you loved the game of football you would cherish being able to watch a talent like him play. I you don't think his talents are amazing, you are just a person that is a homer and clueless. Maybe you should listen to some of the Griz fans talk about him. You bitching about it isn't going to make it better

Here, quit being naive and ignorant
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