mthoopsfan
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Quote the rule.
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Defensive Delay Of Game
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mthoopsfan
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Isn’t the rule new this year?
I re-watched the game this morning and specifically watched this play. ESPN had a shot right down the goal line and what I saw was as we were shifting, one of the DT’s stuck his hand into the neutral zone that caused the false start. Once I saw that, then I think it was warranted to call it on us.
You're a big boy now. I don't need to do your homework for you, and I have no interest in wasting my time knowing I'm 100% accurate. If you think I'm not, you're welcome to attempt to prove it. Good luck.
The defense is free to use terms like "move" or "stem" to call out a shift. In fact, the opposite is true: the offense is prohibited from using those terms to try to fool the defense. The defense is just not allowed to use terms that sim a snap cadence (e.g. a clap, "hut", etc). Really not a difficult rule.
This is good article on 2025 rule change.. I would have to see replay to form an opinion on the call.
www.on3.com
“There is a lot of what I’ll call abrupt coordinated movement by the defense,” SEC coordinator of officials John McDaid said Tuesday at SEC Media Days in Atlanta. “What we’ve seen is over the last four or five years, the number of false starts per game has gone up, and I attribute it to what the defense is doing on that side of the ball. It’s just not what I see in the Southeastern Conference, it’s what my peers and I have all been seeing across the nation.
“This year a change in the football rules is we’re adding a standard to the defensive side of the ball that the offense has had for a century or more. The definition of a false start has forever been action that simulates the snap. That standard, action that simulates the snap, is now put on the defense as well, and the officials are being asked to judge defensive movement in that light.”
"First, one of a stem that remains legal. The Georgia defense moves its defensive line, and its defense, in a coordinated fashion. The Dawgs can ostensibly say that their purpose in movement was to change position before the snap into a different alignment. Could it confuse the defense? Absolutely. Could a false start result? Yes. But can a coach say that drawing a false start wasn’t the primary goal of the movement, and the point was to get into a better position? Yes.
Delay of game... on the defense? Get ready for it in 2025
You know the hits when it comes to penalties. "Holding." "Pass interference." "Unnecessary roughness." "Offsides." You know, the classics. Get ready for a new deep cut: delay of game, defense.
“There is a lot of what I’ll call abrupt coordinated movement by the defense,” SEC coordinator of officials John McDaid said Tuesday at SEC Media Days in Atlanta. “What we’ve seen is over the last four or five years, the number of false starts per game has gone up, and I attribute it to what the defense is doing on that side of the ball. It’s just not what I see in the Southeastern Conference, it’s what my peers and I have all been seeing across the nation.
“This year a change in the football rules is we’re adding a standard to the defensive side of the ball that the offense has had for a century or more. The definition of a false start has forever been action that simulates the snap. That standard, action that simulates the snap, is now put on the defense as well, and the officials are being asked to judge defensive movement in that light.”
"First, one of a stem that remains legal. The Georgia defense moves its defensive line, and its defense, in a coordinated fashion. The Dawgs can ostensibly say that their purpose in movement was to change position before the snap into a different alignment. Could it confuse the defense? Absolutely. Could a false start result? Yes. But can a coach say that drawing a false start wasn’t the primary goal of the movement, and the point was to get into a better position? Yes.
Did you see the WR slow down a touch too? I think he was just as confused as the rest of us, lol.
Agree with EG that we should push the envelope on this in that situation. My question is why teams don’t just have the entire DL and try to jump the snap over and over. Call offsides or encroachment, etc. Half the distance can’t ever cross
Can’t just award them points, right? What would happen? Award first down?
Can’t just award them points, right? What would happen? Award first down?
This actually happened in an NFL game last year. And believe it or not, there is a rule that allows officials to award a TD to the offense in that scenario. Which is what they stated they'd do if it continued. I'll see if I can find the vid.Agree with EG that we should push the envelope on this in that situation. My question is why teams don’t just have the entire DL and try to jump the snap over and over. Call offsides or encroachment, etc. Half the distance can’t ever cross
Here's some info:
www.si.com
Refs Nearly Awarded Eagles a TD After Commanders' Disastrous Attempts to Stop Tush Push
An incredibly hectic sequence from the Commanders' defense.
www.si.com
mthoopsfan
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And I know you never looked at the rule. You are saying it’s right in the rule? Where? I don’t see anything that applies to the play.
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mthoopsfan
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How would tv know it was an audible? They can’t hear that far.
mthoopsfan
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Well, that’s not an audible as some have been saying and some said the tv announcers said. I believe the no. 90 was mentioned by the ref? Or a 90 number.
I don't know what an usbit is.
And yes, I've looked at the rule. I'm certified as a HS official. I don't have a copy of the NCAA rule book handy as they charge like $20 for it. But I get email updates on rule changes and applications regularly. This was a point of emphasis going into the 2025 season, and there was much communique on it. Believe. Don't. I don't a shit. Look it up. There are plenty of sites which will tell you exactly what I am describing.
Thx! It would be hilarious if it they just did it again and made the refs invoke the rule, and every team followed suit until the tush push was addressed.Here's some info:
Refs Nearly Awarded Eagles a TD After Commanders' Disastrous Attempts to Stop Tush Push
An incredibly hectic sequence from the Commanders' defense.
I'm here for this idea. That play is an abomination.
Covered. Thx. It’s kinda like how a BobRB can swipe a HC’s hand away and shove teammates, but it can’t be a slap or a punch, and the meltdown must be “justified” if viewed by over 10 million people. Judgment call.
