Daum

[HookedonGriz]

Many of those speculating on this issue will feel foolish when it all eventually comes out. Again, I promise you it wasn't injury, coaches, lack of effort, or the many other scenarios people are guessing and/or starting rumors on. It is a kid, who made a very difficult choice with very specific reasons for doing so. We are all sad he is leaving. We should also all respect his decision to do so and support him in his next chapter. Remember he is the kid, and we are supposed to be the adults.

 

[GrizBear]

Many of those speculating on this issue will feel foolish when it all eventually comes out. Again, I promise you it wasn't injury, coaches, lack of effort, or the many other scenarios people are guessing and/or starting rumors on. It is a kid, who made a very difficult choice with very specific reasons for doing so. We are all sad he is leaving. We should also all respect his decision to do so and support him in his next chapter. Remember he is the kid, and we are supposed to be the adults.

"I just wasn't happy there and never felt like I was apart (sic) of the team," Daum said in a message.

I'm speculating he wasn't happy here and never felt like he was apart (sic) of the team.

 

[HookedonGriz]

Many of those speculating on this issue will feel foolish when it all eventually comes out. Again, I promise you it wasn't injury, coaches, lack of effort, or the many other scenarios people are guessing and/or starting rumors on. It is a kid, who made a very difficult choice with very specific reasons for doing so. We are all sad he is leaving. We should also all respect his decision to do so and support him in his next chapter. Remember he is the kid, and we are supposed to be the adults.

"I just wasn't happy there and never felt like I was apart (sic) of the team," Daum said in a message.

I'm speculating he wasn't happy here and never felt like he was apart (sic) of the team.

Yep, that's what I would have said, too.

 

[Buttegrizzle]

How can you feel "not a part of the team" when you are a red-shirt freshman who has not even played for the team yet? We could have used this talented athlete.

Great athlete and track guy but overrated on fb field....IMHO. Maybe a track scholarship awaits?
Best of luck to the young man.

Obviously didn't watch him play. I am a Butte homer, clearly, but I watched him destroy competion day in and out for three years. Frankly, it was a simple formula. Daum was faster, by far, than anyone in AA football and the Cook brothers could sling the ball. Also saw him make numerous great defensive plays Including a pick with a huge cast on his arm. No. No point in sour grapes talk. We lost a great athlete. I hope he is good with it and I am sorry not to get to see him play. Track maybe?

 

[UMGriz75]

Many of those speculating on this issue will feel foolish when it all eventually comes out. Again, I promise you it wasn't injury, coaches, lack of effort, or the many other scenarios people are guessing and/or starting rumors on.

You appeared foolish when you first posted that this was a personal decision that didn't have anything to do with the team, and then the quote from Daum was posted. Nobody's guessing about "the many other scenarios" except you. Daum has been quite specific.

 

[goatcreekgriz]

Many of those speculating on this issue will feel foolish when it all eventually comes out. Again, I promise you it wasn't injury, coaches, lack of effort, or the many other scenarios people are guessing and/or starting rumors on.

You appeared foolish when you first posted that this was a personal decision that didn't have anything to do with the team, and then the quote from Daum was posted. Nobody's guessing about "the many other scenarios" except you. Daum has been quite specific.

No, the young man has been far from quite specific. The quote seems purposely (and appropriately) vague. It did not work out the way he wanted, for unspecified reasons, and he left the team. Unless and until this young man decides to say more, everyone should just leave it be. He is not part of the bickering about the coaching staff unless he (and no one else) decides he should be.

 

[UMGriz75]

The quote seems purposely (and appropriately) vague. It did not work out the way he wanted, for unspecified reasons, and he left the team.

I doubt anything could be said, that would not be "spun." The first variation was that this a "personal" decision that had nothing to do with football. Then Daum commented, publicly. There was nothing "vague" about the comment unless you simply are trying to perpetuate the meme by people who pretend to be "knowledgeable" that turned out upon his brief comment to be obviously untrue. Blew several of the usual blowhards out of the water.

As has been noted, this is not the first, it is one in a series of players quitting the team who offer similar views as to why. And most of them aren't redshirts; some have proven talents on the field.

 

[statler & waldorf]

Just sayin' there's at least two views to any problem.

 

[gotgame75]

Wow... early candidate for non-story of the year. Redshirt that never played a down leaves the team?! Frankly, I'm shocked and appalled!!! Lol. This happens multiple times a year to every program in nation! It's expected even. You guys are wound WAY too tight!

And 75, the way you are beating the drum for some sort of thinly-veiled coaching conspiracy Is every bit is as out of line as people commenting on Daum's supposed "lack of effort" or other broad-based assumptions. You are obviously way too personally invested in some of these players to be objective. Player loss of ilk we are seeing is right in line with what you see at every program during the first year or two after a coaching regime change. Heard literally some of the EXACT same commentary after the transition from Glenn to Hauck. It's a fact of life. Some kids adjust, some don't. Same can be said for the transition from high school to college, as in Daum's case.

Much ado about nothing!!!!

 

[UMGriz75]

Wow... early candidate for non-story of the year. Redshirt that never played a down leaves the team?!
And 75, the way you are beating the drum for some sort of thinly-veiled coaching conspiracy Is every bit is as out of line as people commenting on Daum's supposed "lack of effort" or other broad-based assumptions. You are obviously way too personally invested in some of these players to be objective. Player loss of ilk we are seeing is right in line with what you see at every program during the first year or two after a coaching regime change. Heard literally some of the EXACT same commentary after the transition from Glenn to Hauck. It's a fact of life. Some kids adjust, some don't. Same can be said for the transition from high school to college, as in Daum's case.

"Player loss of ilk." ??? Seriously?

Two problems with your fabricated scenario:
1) proven players are leaving,
2) Daum was one of Stitt's own, highly touted, recruits.

You seem to miss the latter point, although I am sure that it not an accident. This has nothing to do with the change of Staff. Daum was not recruited by previous staff.

Or do you have a "thinly veiled coaching conspiracy" about that too?

Perhaps you are too personally invested in the coaching staff to be objective.

See how that works?

The problem here is that even among now-graduated players who had a successful transition under Stitt, the "Little Napolean" complex wore thin. For those of us who do believe that players are at a disadvantage to $300,000 a year coaches, players need to be believed when the same comments, repeated over and over, reach a critical mass and in particular when the unhappiness is coming from even his own recruits.

 

[rgrizfan]

Wow... early candidate for non-story of the year. Redshirt that never played a down leaves the team?!
And 75, the way you are beating the drum for some sort of thinly-veiled coaching conspiracy Is every bit is as out of line as people commenting on Daum's supposed "lack of effort" or other broad-based assumptions. You are obviously way too personally invested in some of these players to be objective. Player loss of ilk we are seeing is right in line with what you see at every program during the first year or two after a coaching regime change. Heard literally some of the EXACT same commentary after the transition from Glenn to Hauck. It's a fact of life. Some kids adjust, some don't. Same can be said for the transition from high school to college, as in Daum's case.

"Player loss of ilk." ??? Seriously?

Two problems with your fabricated scenario:
1) proven players are leaving,
2) Daum was one of Stitt's own, highly touted, recruits.

You seem to miss the latter point, although I am sure that it not an accident. This has nothing to do with the change of Staff. Daum was not recruited by previous staff.

Or do you have a "thinly veiled coaching conspiracy" about that too?

Perhaps you are too personally invested in the coaching staff to be objective.

See how that works?

The problem here is that even among now-graduated players who had a successful transition under Stitt, the "Little Napolean" complex wore thin. For those of us who do believe that players are at a disadvantage to $300,000 a year coaches, players need to be believed when the same comments, repeated over and over, reach a critical mass and in particular when the unhappiness is coming from even his own recruits.

Pretty sure UMGriz75 got all of this cereal...UMGriz75 sure is negative!
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/man-caught-camera-urinating-cereal-kellogg-plant-article-1.2563060

 

[UMGriz75]

Pretty sure UMGriz75 got all of this cereal...you sure are negative! http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/man-caught-camera-urinating-cereal-kellogg-plant-article-1.2563060

Compared to "player loss of ilk?" That's not "negative?" You have a hypocrisy so deep, it is nearly ideological: facts don't matter to you.

That's probably one of the most disgusting lines have read about upstanding people like Willy Pflug, Scott Parker, Josh Janssen, Chase Naccarrato, and Dalton Daum, but it shows that you are not in this for the players or the team; you are merely a sycophant.

Congratulations. After blasting the players, do you fawn for their autographs?

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Daum was not recruited by previous staff.

Is this true? I thought they offered him a half. Could be wrong.

EDIT: Could have been a walk-on. Could still be wrong.

 

[VimSince03]

Daum was not recruited by previous staff.

Is this true? I thought they offered him a half. Could be wrong.

EDIT: Could have been a walk-on. Could still be wrong.

Delaney offered a half.

 

[tgreseth]

Pretty sure UMGriz75 got all of this cereal...you sure are negative! http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/man-caught-camera-urinating-cereal-kellogg-plant-article-1.2563060

Compared to "player loss of ilk?" That's not "negative?" You have a hypocrisy so deep, it is nearly ideological: facts don't matter to you.

That's probably one of the most disgusting lines have read about upstanding people like Willy Pflug, Scott Parker, Josh Janssen, Chase Naccarrato, and Dalton Daum, but it shows that you are not in this for the players or the team; you are merely a sycophant.

Congratulations. After blasting the players, do you fawn for their autographs?

Someone that was "in this for the players" as you'd have us believe would actually know the names of the players who've left the program... :?

 

[HookedonGriz]

Many of those speculating on this issue will feel foolish when it all eventually comes out. Again, I promise you it wasn't injury, coaches, lack of effort, or the many other scenarios people are guessing and/or starting rumors on.

You appeared foolish when you first posted that this was a personal decision that didn't have anything to do with the team, and then the quote from Daum was posted. Nobody's guessing about "the many other scenarios" except you. Daum has been quite specific.

Sounds good all knowing one. Happy to bookmark this post so you're the first one who is "ass hat of the year" when you find out more

 

[HookedonGriz]

Many of those speculating on this issue will feel foolish when it all eventually comes out. Again, I promise you it wasn't injury, coaches, lack of effort, or the many other scenarios people are guessing and/or starting rumors on.

You appeared foolish when you first posted that this was a personal decision that didn't have anything to do with the team, and then the quote from Daum was posted. Nobody's guessing about "the many other scenarios" except you. Daum has been quite specific.

Sounds good all knowing one. Happy to bookmark this post so you're the first one who is "ass hat of the year" when you find out more

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

Wow... early candidate for non-story of the year. Redshirt that never played a down leaves the team?!
And 75, the way you are beating the drum for some sort of thinly-veiled coaching conspiracy Is every bit is as out of line as people commenting on Daum's supposed "lack of effort" or other broad-based assumptions. You are obviously way too personally invested in some of these players to be objective. Player loss of ilk we are seeing is right in line with what you see at every program during the first year or two after a coaching regime change. Heard literally some of the EXACT same commentary after the transition from Glenn to Hauck. It's a fact of life. Some kids adjust, some don't. Same can be said for the transition from high school to college, as in Daum's case.

"Player loss of ilk." ??? Seriously?

Two problems with your fabricated scenario:
1) proven players are leaving,
2) Daum was one of Stitt's own, highly touted, recruits.

You seem to miss the latter point, although I am sure that it not an accident. This has nothing to do with the change of Staff. Daum was not recruited by previous staff.

Or do you have a "thinly veiled coaching conspiracy" about that too?

Perhaps you are too personally invested in the coaching staff to be objective.

See how that works?

The problem here is that even among now-graduated players who had a successful transition under Stitt, the "Little Napolean" complex wore thin. For those of us who do believe that players are at a disadvantage to $300,000 a year coaches, players need to be believed when the same comments, repeated over and over, reach a critical mass and in particular when the unhappiness is coming from even his own recruits.

Weird, I never saw him on the field last year...so proven????

He was on the program for 1 redshirt year. Its not unusual for a kid to leave after 1 year on a program.

 

[maroonandsilver]

I don't know any more specifics than anyone, but Daum's statement that he "didn't feel part of the team" has me scratching my head. He was involved in practices. He attended team and position meetings. He went to games and sat with other redshirts, then went on to the field afterwards to be with the active team members. He had a locker in the FB locker room. He attended Winter conditioning with the rest of the team. Someone stated that his position coach had receivers to his home for dinners. What more did he expect as a redshirt freshman?

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

I don't know any more specifics than anyone, but Daum's statement that he "didn't feel part of the team" has me scratching my head. He was involved in practices. He attended team and position meetings. He went to games and sat with other redshirts, then went on to the field afterwards to be with the active team members. He had a locker in the FB locker room. He attended Winter conditioning with the rest of the team. Someone stated that his position coach had receivers to his home for dinners. What more did he expect as a redshirt freshman?

Exactly, some kids just dont get along with others...some feel left out, maybe hes soft, maybe hes just sick of football, maybe he feels like he got a raw deal. Nobody knows, and thats normal. So a kid decided to change his mind...this is not a story or a big deal. He had talent and has decided not to use it at the UofM.

If this kid would have been from say AZ or Cali, I doubt we would be having a 7 page convo about this. 18 year old changed his mind big freaking deal. If we didn't have 75 continuing to fuel his anit-Stitt agenda this would be a non issue.