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County Health Dept After the Mo Club

PlayerRep said:
Some of the problems relate to Bullock/Cooney spending more time and effort on campaigning than on reining in the covid, in my view. Also, due to the campaign, Bullock is hesitant, if not frozen, and afraid to take action. I think he's putting his campaign above what is good for Montana. Where's the leadership at the top in MT?
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How many of you will actually admit to voting for Bullock/Cooney? Last democrat I voted for was Carter in '76. A disaster.
 
tourist said:
PlayerRep said:
Some of the problems relate to Bullock/Cooney spending more time and effort on campaigning than on reining in the covid, in my view. Also, due to the campaign, Bullock is hesitant, if not frozen, and afraid to take action. I think he's putting his campaign above what is good for Montana. Where's the leadership at the top in MT?
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How many of you will actually admit to voting for Bullock/Cooney? Last democrat I voted for was Carter in '76. A disaster.
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I voted Daines and Gianforte. Two terrific candidates and people.
 
kemajic said:
PlayerRep said:
I voted Daines and Gianforte. Two terrific candidates and people.
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Every four years we watch Montana's Democrats pretend they are conservative. They support any gun control measure up through allowing only single shot rifles or shotguns for hunting, and claim that shows support for the 2nd Amendment.

Pre-existing conditions is the rally latest phony rally cry. As a former state employee, I know that the state health care plans under Bullock his entire tenure as AG, and his tenure as Governor before the ACA, had exclusions for pre-existing conditions. So much for always favoring this coverage. But these exclusions did not affect current employees, only new employees. And these are in place for one reason, too protect the pool of policy holders from catastrophic premium increases. That's why the exclusion was in every state health insurance program, every union health program, and every private group or individual policy. To make the insurance affordable. And that's why COBRA was in place if you changed jobs, to keep coverage for your condition in place. The irony of the ACA, by requiring coverage of pre-existing conditions, it guaranteed insurance would not be affordable. And once you require that coverage, it isn't insurance, which by definition is indemnity against future events. Like car insurance and home insurance. You don't get to go uninsured for 20 years and then only buy insurance the day after your house burns down or you wreck your car. There is no after the fact coverage.

The thing I miss this year is any party giving any consideration to out of control spending. When we devalue the dollar by just printing and putting more dollars into circulation, which we will have to do as the only means of paying off the national debt, the US will fall as a nation just as every great society in history. The reason to not vote democrat is that demise will happen 10X faster. Don't agree, Venezuela is the most recent Exhibit 1. And the companion to economic collapse is that a totalitarians government always fills the void. Conservatives have way more guns and ammo than liberals, and know how to use them. Too steal a recent campaign phrase, "Think about that!."
 
horribilisfan8184 said:
kemajic said:
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Every four years we watch Montana's Democrats pretend they are conservative. They support any gun control measure up through allowing only single shot rifles or shotguns for hunting, and claim that shows support for the 2nd Amendment.

Pre-existing conditions is the rally latest phony rally cry. As a former state employee, I know that the state health care plans under Bullock his entire tenure as AG, and his tenure as Governor before the ACA, had exclusions for pre-existing conditions. So much for always favoring this coverage. But these exclusions did not affect current employees, only new employees. And these are in place for one reason, too protect the pool of policy holders from catastrophic premium increases. That's why the exclusion was in every state health insurance program, every union health program, and every private group or individual policy. To make the insurance affordable. And that's why COBRA was in place if you changed jobs, to keep coverage for your condition in place. The irony of the ACA, by requiring coverage of pre-existing conditions, it guaranteed insurance would not be affordable. And once you require that coverage, it isn't insurance, which by definition is indemnity against future events. Like car insurance and home insurance. You don't get to go uninsured for 20 years and then only buy insurance the day after your house burns down or you wreck your car. There is no after the fact coverage.

The thing I miss this year is any party giving any consideration to out of control spending. When we devalue the dollar by just printing and putting more dollars into circulation, which we will have to do as the only means of paying off the national debt, the US will fall as a nation just as every great society in history. The reason to not vote democrat is that demise will happen 10X faster. Don't agree, Venezuela is the most recent Exhibit 1. And the companion to economic collapse is that a totalitarians government always fills the void. Conservatives have way more guns and ammo than liberals, and know how to use them. Too steal a recent campaign phrase, "Think about that!."
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The dem strategy will be to pass the wealth tax, their soft term for the end to private property (assets) ownership, which gets taken over bit by bit. Wake up; loss of private property ownership is the key element of Marxism.
 
kemajic said:
horribilisfan8184 said:
Every four years we watch Montana's Democrats pretend they are conservative. They support any gun control measure up through allowing only single shot rifles or shotguns for hunting, and claim that shows support for the 2nd Amendment.

Pre-existing conditions is the rally latest phony rally cry. As a former state employee, I know that the state health care plans under Bullock his entire tenure as AG, and his tenure as Governor before the ACA, had exclusions for pre-existing conditions. So much for always favoring this coverage. But these exclusions did not affect current employees, only new employees. And these are in place for one reason, too protect the pool of policy holders from catastrophic premium increases. That's why the exclusion was in every state health insurance program, every union health program, and every private group or individual policy. To make the insurance affordable. And that's why COBRA was in place if you changed jobs, to keep coverage for your condition in place. The irony of the ACA, by requiring coverage of pre-existing conditions, it guaranteed insurance would not be affordable. And once you require that coverage, it isn't insurance, which by definition is indemnity against future events. Like car insurance and home insurance. You don't get to go uninsured for 20 years and then only buy insurance the day after your house burns down or you wreck your car. There is no after the fact coverage.

The thing I miss this year is any party giving any consideration to out of control spending. When we devalue the dollar by just printing and putting more dollars into circulation, which we will have to do as the only means of paying off the national debt, the US will fall as a nation just as every great society in history. The reason to not vote democrat is that demise will happen 10X faster. Don't agree, Venezuela is the most recent Exhibit 1. And the companion to economic collapse is that a totalitarians government always fills the void. Conservatives have way more guns and ammo than liberals, and know how to use them. Too steal a recent campaign phrase, "Think about that!."
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The dem strategy will be to pass the wealth tax, their soft term for the end to private property (assets) ownership, which gets taken over bit by bit. Wake up; loss of private property ownership is the key element of Marxism. Under their economy, there will be insufficient income to tax and pay for their agenda. It will have to come from currently held private assets. Your nest egg, already taxed. They will have to have a stacked leftist activist SCOTUS to do that, because it is unconstitutional.
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kemajic said:
kemajic said:
The dem strategy will be to pass the wealth tax, their soft term for the end to private property (assets) ownership, which gets taken over bit by bit. Wake up; loss of private property ownership is the key element of Marxism. Under their economy, there will be insufficient income to tax and pay for their agenda. It will have to come from currently held private assets. Your nest egg, already taxed. They will have to have a stacked leftist activist SCOTUS to do that, because it is unconstitutional.
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nobody, especially the government, wants your boring little plot of land outside of billings, montana. i think you are safe from socialist raiders intent on taking over everything you own, not to mention everything you still owe money on, like...
 
argh! said:

nobody, especially the government, wants your boring little plot of land outside of billings, montana. i think you are safe from socialist raiders intent on taking over everything you own, not to mention everything you still owe money on, like...
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...Nothing. You expose that you know nothing of the purpose or the workings of a Wealth Tax. Has nothing to do with raiders. Raiders we can handle in our boring little plot of land. Of course, career job hoppers have little to fear from a Wealth Tax and would reap the benefit from redistribution of other's earned assets.
 
kemajic said:
kemajic said:
The dem strategy will be to pass the wealth tax, their soft term for the end to private property (assets) ownership, which gets taken over bit by bit. Wake up; loss of private property ownership is the key element of Marxism. Under their economy, there will be insufficient income to tax and pay for their agenda. It will have to come from currently held private assets. Your nest egg, already taxed. They will have to have a stacked leftist activist SCOTUS to do that, because it is unconstitutional.
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oh pshaw. neither party wants to end private property. there's at least as many "dems" with huge assets (i.e. soros) as "pubs". they don't want to lose it, especially by giving it to the government and/or poor people. they would have already done that, if it was what they were after. quit fear mongering, or better yet, hide in your room and be afraid!
 
argh! said:

oh pshaw. neither party wants to end private property. there's at least as many "dems" with huge assets (i.e. soros) as "pubs". they don't want to lose it, especially by giving it to the government and/or poor people. they would have already done that, if it was what they were after. quit fear mongering, or better yet, hide in your room and be afraid!
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The elites are always fine. You just describe the split in the dem party. The Squad, Sanders, Harris, et. al. don't agree with you.
 
PlayerRep said:
tourist said:
How many of you will actually admit to voting for Bullock/Cooney? Last democrat I voted for was Carter in '76. A disaster.
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I voted Daines and Gianforte. Two terrific candidates and people.
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Maybe you can ask your buddy Gianforte how he can rationalize building his fortune on the back of science & technology, yet simultaneously believe humans coexisted with dinosaurs and that Noah lived to 600 years old. :roll:
 
gotgame75 said:
PlayerRep said:
I voted Daines and Gianforte. Two terrific candidates and people.
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Maybe you can ask your buddy Gianforte how he can rationalize building his fortune on the back of science & technology, yet simultaneously believe humans coexisted with dinosaurs and that Noah lived to 600 years old. :roll:
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Oh my - you got game alright. :roll:
 
Wonder if this could be moved to the Politics aka “I Have Everything Figured Out and Have Too Much Time on My Hands” Board.
 
"In the last two weeks, the Missoula City-County Health Department has issued Health Officer orders to ROAM Student Living, Monk's Bar, Bodega, Stockman's Bar, Benny's Frenchtown Club and Larry's Six Mile Bar in Huson. That follows previous orders for the closure of the Mo Club and The Alcan Bar in Frenchtown."

https://missoulian.com/news/local/monks-bodega-stockmans-ordered-to-close/article_89495861-2428-59d1-98c4-53cb6c4331c3.html#tracking-source=home-top-story-1

I don't mind the health dept keeping a close eye on bars (and the Roam lobby), but are they paying enough attention to other important things? Again, I was told there had been no covid associated with the Mo Club. Don't know how these other places.

But my view is that the health dept should be spending more time on things like this. People are going to die from this one.

"Nursing home sees surge, 98 cumulative cases"

"The Village Health & Rehabilitation in Missoula, a 193-bed nursing home, has reported 98 total cumulative COVID-19 cases, according to management.

Executive director Dee Strauss informed the Missoulian on Thursday that the facility has had 64 total positive COVID-19 cases among residents and 34 total cases among employees."

https://missoulian.com/news/local/nursing-home-sees-surge-98-cumulative-cases/article_4d1dfde1-a046-56f9-88ce-d47cf8349d62.html#tracking-source=home-top-story-1
 
nzone said:
As long as PR and Kem post Egriz will be nothing but political conversation.... :coffee:
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I have lots of info. Talked to Pflu yesterday, and going to dinner with him now in Flagstaff. Because of some dicks on the board, I won't waste my time posting it. I will PM Kem, tho.
 
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