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County Has 5 Lawyers Prosecuting Johnson

tgriz said:
Two reasons;
1) their case is probably weak, and
2) The city of Missoula and Engstrom are hoping to use JJ as a sacrifical lamb.
They did a shitty job keeping there own house in order and need a big, public fall.
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tgriz, I suspect you nailed it.
I am ticked there is such overkill on this case by the prosecution.
Regardless of the outcome, I hope in the end justice is done. :ugeek:
 
tgriz said:
Two reasons; 1) their case is probably weak and 2) The city of Missoula and Engstrom are hoping to use JJ as a sacrifical lamb. They did a shitty job keeping there own house in order and need a big, public fall.

If JJ is innocent, look out. UM will be UJJ
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i don't think the case is necessarily weak, but they certainly have the additional challenge of fighting the highly biased and unfair public trial that has been waged by the defense (and some losers on here) against the girl.
 
They are fighting fire with fire.

The former Chief Deputy left the County with access to information that Paoli wouldn't be able to get any other way than bringing a former prosecutor on board to defend Johnson with. If that doesn't scream conflict of interest, I don't know what does.

Paoli is well known to overstep the boundaries of civility to lawyers across the state. He is a bully and he is armed with the knowledge of Ms. Pabst to help him continue his regular ways.

You guys are hilarious. You'd want an army of attorneys to prosecute another defendant if his last name wasn't on the uniform of the Montana Grizzlies. But now, when he is one of your own, you are shocked and upset at the "waste of resources," sounding off on what you think you know about the victim and what the judge "should" do.

As soon as Trent McKinney really starts clicking (which he will), this new found passion for justice will start to fade. That's the way it goes with fans like you.
 
Jerry Punch said:
They are fighting fire with fire.

The former Chief Deputy left the County with access to information that Paoli wouldn't be able to get any other way than bringing a former prosecutor on board to defend Johnson with. If that doesn't scream conflict of interest, I don't know what does.

Paoli is well known to overstep the boundaries of civility to lawyers across the state. He is a bully and he is armed with the knowledge of Ms. Pabst to help him continue his regular ways.

You guys are hilarious. You'd want an army of attorneys to prosecute another defendant if his last name wasn't on the uniform of the Montana Grizzlies. But now, when he is one of your own, you are shocked and upset at the "waste of resources," sounding off on what you think you know about the victim and what the judge "should" do.

As soon as Trent McKinney really starts clicking (which he will), this new found passion for justice will start to fade. That's the way it goes with fans like you.
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Pabst left the county attorneys office before the Johnson case came to the county attorneys office. It's not a conflict of interest for a county attorney to go into private practice. It happens all the time. If there was any issue of a conflict, the county attorney would have raised it by now.

Paoli is one of the top plaintiffs lawyers in the state, and has been very successful. He has multiple speeds, including being aggressive. He is also a nice guy. He does not deserve to be disparaged like this.

You may want to be more careful about providing false information and making false insinuations. You obviously have an agenda. Are you a Cat fan?
 
Washgrizfan1 said:
Pabst left the county attorneys office before the Johnson case came to the county attorneys office. It's not a conflict of interest for a county attorney to go into private practice. It happens all the time. If there was any issue of a conflict, the county attorney would have raised it by now.
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The TRO against JJ was taken out at the beginning of March and Pabst left the CA at the end of march, so it looks like there could have been a couple weeks of overlap. Unless I'm missing something?
 
I LOVE IT! I repeat Paoli's well known reputation in the community and I get called a Cat fan.

His reputation comes from a lot of sources, Griz and Cat alike. It also comes from people who don't care about the rivalry. When you drag a victim's reputation and name through the mud, I would agree with you that one of the speeds is agressive. Some might also call it irresponsible.
 
So when will the "victim's" name be disclosed? I'm sure almost everyone on campus must know by now. Hope she knows what she's doing..............what a fiasco. :(
 
wbtfg. The CA's office had no role in the issuance of the TRO. That was issued by the JP based solely on an affidavit submitted by the complainant. Get the facts before making unsubstantiated claims.
 
wbtfg said:
Washgrizfan1 said:
Pabst left the county attorneys office before the Johnson case came to the county attorneys office. It's not a conflict of interest for a county attorney to go into private practice. It happens all the time. If there was any issue of a conflict, the county attorney would have raised it by now.
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The TRO against JJ was taken out at the beginning of March and Pabst left the CA at the end of march, so it looks like there could have been a couple weeks of overlap. Unless I'm missing something?
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The Missoulian article on her departure is dated Feb. 26. She was doing her private practice by March.

http://missoulian.com/news/local/missoula-county-attorney-s-heir-apparent-leaving-for-solo-practice/article_db80cd48-60f4-11e1-a0e6-001871e3ce6c.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

A tro application and issuance doesn't came to the county attorney anyway. It goes directly to a judge. The person asking for the restraining fills out a form and takes it directly to the court.

The police didn't refer the case to the county attorneys office until months later. The articles on the police referral to the county attorney are dated May 12.
 
Da Griz said:
wbtfg. The CA's office had no role in the issuance of the TRO. That was issued by the JP based solely on an affidavit submitted by the complainant. Get the facts before making unsubstantiated claims.
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I don't think I really made any unsubstantiated claims did I? I just said that the TRO was issued at the beginning of March and Pabst was in the Attorney's office until the end of March.

I'm pretty sure both of those are facts....no?
 
Jerry Punch said:
They are fighting fire with fire.

The former Chief Deputy left the County with access to information that Paoli wouldn't be able to get any other way than bringing a former prosecutor on board to defend Johnson with. If that doesn't scream conflict of interest, I don't know what does.

Paoli is well known to overstep the boundaries of civility to lawyers across the state. He is a bully and he is armed with the knowledge of Ms. Pabst to help him continue his regular ways.

You guys are hilarious. You'd want an army of attorneys to prosecute another defendant if his last name wasn't on the uniform of the Montana Grizzlies. But now, when he is one of your own, you are shocked and upset at the "waste of resources," sounding off on what you think you know about the victim and what the judge "should" do.

As soon as Trent McKinney really starts clicking (which he will), this new found passion for justice will start to fade. That's the way it goes with fans like you.
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Look Donkey Punch, the prosecutor is duty bound by the Constitution to turn over EVERY piece of exculpatory evidence. How could Pabst on the defense create a "conflict" unless the Missoula County Attorney has a conflict with the Constitution? 5 Prosecutors is not fighting fire with fire, it is a waste of resources that seems necessary because it takes a lot of time and brain powere to get around ethical duties. :thumb:
 
bigkid said:
So when will the "victim's" name be disclosed? I'm sure almost everyone on campus must know by now. Hope she knows what she's doing..............what a fiasco. :(
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When we have class acts on Egriz stating she is a ___ year old student of _________ (instert particular school/area of study) from ______ (insert very rural, small Montana town), it isn't too hard for people to figure it out.

Disgusting.
 
Jerry Punch said:
bigkid said:
So when will the "victim's" name be disclosed? I'm sure almost everyone on campus must know by now. Hope she knows what she's doing..............what a fiasco. :(
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When we have class acts on Egriz stating she is a ___ year old student of _________ (instert particular school/area of study) from ______ (insert very rural, small Montana town), it isn't too hard for people to figure it out.

Disgusting.
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As is your rush to judgment by referring to her as a "victim". Let's let it play out sport. :cry:
 
crackgina said:
Jerry Punch said:
They are fighting fire with fire.

The former Chief Deputy left the County with access to information that Paoli wouldn't be able to get any other way than bringing a former prosecutor on board to defend Johnson with. If that doesn't scream conflict of interest, I don't know what does.

Paoli is well known to overstep the boundaries of civility to lawyers across the state. He is a bully and he is armed with the knowledge of Ms. Pabst to help him continue his regular ways.

You guys are hilarious. You'd want an army of attorneys to prosecute another defendant if his last name wasn't on the uniform of the Montana Grizzlies. But now, when he is one of your own, you are shocked and upset at the "waste of resources," sounding off on what you think you know about the victim and what the judge "should" do.

As soon as Trent McKinney really starts clicking (which he will), this new found passion for justice will start to fade. That's the way it goes with fans like you.
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Look Donkey Punch, the prosecutor is duty bound by the Constitution to turn over EVERY piece of exculpatory evidence. How could Pabst on the defense create a "conflict" unless the Missoula County Attorney has a conflict with the Constitution? 5 Prosecutors is not fighting fire with fire, it is a waste of resources that seems necessary because it takes a lot of time and brain powere to get around ethical duties. :thumb:
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This case should have been dismissed and never seen a trial. It is a total waste of taxpayor money. He will be acquitted of all charges, and it will not even be close.
 
Jerry Punch said:
crackgina said:
AllWeatherFan said:
...and with a name like "crackgina," you know his opinions on women can be trusted! :thumb:
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Said the communist.... :thumb:
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PS, what is a crackgina and where can I get one of those? Thanks! :thumb:
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Well when you can't overcome the argument, you can buy them at the old ad hominem store. You and AllWeather seam to be having trouble with facts. :thumb:
 
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