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Contract Renewal

uofmman1122 said:
Might want to pump the breaks here just a little bit. Davis was reeling with some big injuries.

You can absolutely come back and gloat if we win next weekend, though. :thumb:

Im not gloating, in fact I voted non renewal. I have been very vocal about my displeasure with this coaching staff. I was just genuinely curious to hear if people’s minds were changing
 
hm.grwn.grizfan said:
uofmman1122 said:
Might want to pump the breaks here just a little bit. Davis was reeling with some big injuries.

You can absolutely come back and gloat if we win next weekend, though. :thumb:

Im not floating, in fact I voted non renewal. I have been very vocal about my displeasure with this coaching staff. I was just genuinely curious to hear if people’s minds were changing

While today was the opposite of bad, I still think we should only retain if we beat either Idaho or MSU and make the quarterfinals.
 
hm.grwn.grizfan said:
uofmman1122 said:
Might want to pump the breaks here just a little bit. Davis was reeling with some big injuries.

You can absolutely come back and gloat if we win next weekend, though. :thumb:

Im not floating, in fact I voted non renewal. I have been very vocal about my displeasure with this coaching staff. I was just genuinely curious to hear if people’s minds were changing
No worries.

As for me, one game isn't going to fix the problems I think we have and have had for a while now that are preventing us from beating teams like Idaho and MSU.

Now, if we beat Idaho or MSU this season, that would definitely change my mind about the staff.
 
uofmman1122 said:
hm.grwn.grizfan said:
Im not floating, in fact I voted non renewal. I have been very vocal about my displeasure with this coaching staff. I was just genuinely curious to hear if people’s minds were changing
No worries.

As for me, one game isn't going to fix the problems I think we have and have had for a while now that are preventing us from beating teams like Idaho and MSU.

Now, if we beat Idaho or MSU this season, that would definitely change my mind about the staff.

That's where my head is at, happy we got the win but we still have the toughest part of our schedule coming up with Idaho, SAC and MSU, Vikings may not be a slouch either. Bare minimum we need to win 3 of these games to have a shot at the playoffs with our best shots being vs UNC, PSU and SAC (because we're home). We win only 2 I don't see us getting in.
 
Oldskoolgriz said:
They already offered Bobby a new contract, he's just choosing to to talk about it right now. But he's staying.

If so I’m unsurprised, but I’ll be disappointed if he doesn’t replace germer, rosy, pease, and phenecie. We need new blood on that side of the ball
 
Ut-Grizfan said:
uofmman1122 said:
No worries.

As for me, one game isn't going to fix the problems I think we have and have had for a while now that are preventing us from beating teams like Idaho and MSU.

Now, if we beat Idaho or MSU this season, that would definitely change my mind about the staff.

That's where my head is at, happy we got the win but we still have the toughest part of our schedule coming up with Idaho, SAC and MSU, Vikings may not be a slouch either. Bare minimum we need to win 3 of these games to have a shot at the playoffs with our best shots being vs UNC, PSU and SAC (because we're home). We win only 2 I don't see us getting in.

You need to rewrite what you wrote and either change to 2 wins, or add UNC to the first list. Winning 3 of the 4 you listed, and beating UNC, would put the Griz at 9-2, wouldn't it?
 
hm.grwn.grizfan said:
Oldskoolgriz said:
They already offered Bobby a new contract, he's just choosing to to talk about it right now. But he's staying.

If so I’m unsurprised, but I’ll be disappointed if he doesn’t replace germer, rosy, pease, and phenecie. We need new blood on that side of the ball

What is Phen doing wrong, or not doing?
 
mthoopsfan said:
hm.grwn.grizfan said:
If so I’m unsurprised, but I’ll be disappointed if he doesn’t replace germer, rosy, pease, and phenecie. We need new blood on that side of the ball

What is Phen doing wrong, or not doing?

Honestly, I don’t know that his name should be on the list, so scratch that one. I just want progress on offense. Today was a start, but I’m still not sure that it’s good enough to beat the top teams in this conference
 
mthoopsfan said:
Ut-Grizfan said:
That's where my head is at, happy we got the win but we still have the toughest part of our schedule coming up with Idaho, SAC and MSU, Vikings may not be a slouch either. Bare minimum we need to win 3 of these games to have a shot at the playoffs with our best shots being vs UNC, PSU and SAC (because we're home). We win only 2 I don't see us getting in.

You need to rewrite what you wrote and either change to 2 wins, or add UNC to the first list. Winning 3 of the 4 you listed, and beating UNC, would put the Griz at 9-2, wouldn't it?

I don't need to rewrite anything:

-We're 4-1 in games that count towards the playoffs

-We need to win 3 bare minimum to have any shot at the playoffs, best chances for those wins are UNC, PSU and SAC.

-If we win those and lose the rest we'd be 8-3 with 7 D1 wins leaving no chance of being left out of the Playoffs.

-If we end the season at 7-4 or 6-5 I don't see us getting in or in very real danger of being left out, similar to how UCD was last season.
 
Ut-Grizfan said:
mthoopsfan said:
You need to rewrite what you wrote and either change to 2 wins, or add UNC to the first list. Winning 3 of the 4 you listed, and beating UNC, would put the Griz at 9-2, wouldn't it?

I don't need to rewrite anything:

-We're 4-1 in games that count towards the playoffs

-We need to win 3 bare minimum to have any shot at the playoffs, best chances for those wins are UNC, PSU and SAC.

-If we win those and lose the rest we'd be 8-3 with 7 D1 wins leaving no chance of being left out of the Playoffs.

-If we end the season at 7-4 or 6-5 I don't see us getting in or in very real danger of being left out, similar to how UCD was last season.

You said the Griz need to win 3 of Idaho, SS, MSU and PSU. Those were only 4 teams you mentioned prior to saying that the Griz need to win 3 of "these" games. This is what you said. Read it.

"we still have the toughest part of our schedule coming up with Idaho, SAC and MSU, Vikings may not be a slouch either. Bare minimum we need to win 3 of these games to have a shot at the playoffs"
 
mthoopsfan said:
Ut-Grizfan said:
I don't need to rewrite anything:

-We're 4-1 in games that count towards the playoffs

-We need to win 3 bare minimum to have any shot at the playoffs, best chances for those wins are UNC, PSU and SAC.

-If we win those and lose the rest we'd be 8-3 with 7 D1 wins leaving no chance of being left out of the Playoffs.

-If we end the season at 7-4 or 6-5 I don't see us getting in or in very real danger of being left out, similar to how UCD was last season.

You said the Griz need to win 3 of Idaho, SS, MSU and PSU. Those were only 4 teams you mentioned prior to saying that the Griz need to win 3 of "those" games. This is what you said. Read it.

"we still have the toughest part of our schedule coming up with Idaho, SAC and MSU, Vikings may not be a slouch either. Bare minimum we need to win 3 of these games to have a shot at the playoffs"

No I didn't you need to re-read what I wrote, those 4 are the games vs our toughest remaining opposition, I didn't put UNC there because we should beat them at home, which is why they're included in the most likely to get win picks.
 
Ut-Grizfan said:
mthoopsfan said:
You said the Griz need to win 3 of Idaho, SS, MSU and PSU. Those were only 4 teams you mentioned prior to saying that the Griz need to win 3 of "those" games. This is what you said. Read it.

"we still have the toughest part of our schedule coming up with Idaho, SAC and MSU, Vikings may not be a slouch either. Bare minimum we need to win 3 of these games to have a shot at the playoffs"

No I didn't you need to re-read what I wrote, those 4 are the games vs our toughest remaining opposition, I didn't put UNC there because we should beat them at home, which is why they're included in the most likely to get win picks.

So, if we beat 3 of those 4 teams and also UNC, we will be 9-2. We don't have to be 9-2. 8-3 is fine. You either need to say win 2 of those 4, or add UNC and say 3 of those 5. Do you really not understand this?
 
mthoopsfan said:
Ut-Grizfan said:
No I didn't you need to re-read what I wrote, those 4 are the games vs our toughest remaining opposition, I didn't put UNC there because we should beat them at home, which is why they're included in the most likely to get win picks.

So, if we beat 3 of those 4 teams and also UNC, we will be 9-2. We don't have to be 9-2. 8-3 is fine. You either need to say win 2 of those 4, or add UNC and say 3 of those 5. Do you really not understand this?

Not what I said but you seem keen on purposely complicating things for no other sake but to cause issue when there is none. Literally mentioned UNC specifically as awin in the next sentences, not hard.
 
Ut-Grizfan said:
mthoopsfan said:
So, if we beat 3 of those 4 teams and also UNC, we will be 9-2. We don't have to be 9-2. 8-3 is fine. You either need to say win 2 of those 4, or add UNC and say 3 of those 5. Do you really not understand this?

Not what I said but you seem keen on purposely complicating things for no other sake but to cause issue when there is none. Literally mentioned UNC specifically as awin in the next sentences, not hard.

That is exactly what you said initially, and then you later admitted that is what you said. I was just trying to help your post make sense.
 
mthoopsfan said:
hm.grwn.grizfan said:
If so I’m unsurprised, but I’ll be disappointed if he doesn’t replace germer, rosy, pease, and phenecie. We need new blood on that side of the ball

What is Phen doing wrong, or not doing?

And what difference would change make if what many believe to be true is actually true? (That Bobby overrides the offensive play callers routinely and dictates what kind of offense he wants them to run)?
 
mthoopsfan said:
Ut-Grizfan said:
That's where my head is at, happy we got the win but we still have the toughest part of our schedule coming up with Idaho, SAC and MSU, Vikings may not be a slouch either. Bare minimum we need to win 3 of these games to have a shot at the playoffs with our best shots being vs UNC, PSU and SAC (because we're home). We win only 2 I don't see us getting in.

You need to rewrite what you wrote and either change to 2 wins, or add UNC to the first list. Winning 3 of the 4 you listed, and beating UNC, would put the Griz at 9-2, wouldn't it?

He made three statements. 1) the toughest part of our schedule with Idaho, Sac, MSU and Vikings is ahead of us; 2) we need to win 3 of the remaining games, which would put us at 8-3. 3) He then said our best shots are UNC, PSU and SAC.

It’s pretty clear despite your attempts to muddy the waters or your lack of reading comprehension.
 
I see a lot of mentioning that Bobby overrides play calls on offense. And that makes a lot of sense. Because the offense I remember watching when Brent Pease first started at Montana, they used to throw the ball 75-80% of the time and the QB was averaging 300+yards a game with a minimum of 3 TD passes. The formations he ran were always 4 Wars, or 5. It was the old Run and Shoot with Wr screens, slot screens, RB screens and TE screens. I think if Pease had full control, we would see a lot more passing which would open up the run game even more.
 
AZGrizFan said:
mthoopsfan said:
You need to rewrite what you wrote and either change to 2 wins, or add UNC to the first list. Winning 3 of the 4 you listed, and beating UNC, would put the Griz at 9-2, wouldn't it?

He made three statements. 1) the toughest part of our schedule with Idaho, Sac, MSU and Vikings is ahead of us; 2) we need to win 3 of the remaining games, which would put us at 8-3. 3) He then said our best shots are UNC, PSU and SAC.

It’s pretty clear despite your attempts to muddy the waters or your lack of reading comprehension.

No, your point 1 is correct, but your point 2 isn't. He then said that the Griz have to win 3 of "these" games, not the remaining games. Those 4 he listed. And in another post, he said he assumed we would beat UNC. So, the way he wrote it, he was saying we needed to win 4 games. Read before you post. I even re-posted the quote up there. I will post it again below. Read it and then issue your apology or admission you were wrong. And, I was trying to unmuddy the waters.

"but we still have the toughest part of our schedule coming up with Idaho, SAC and MSU, Vikings may not be a slouch either. Bare minimum we need to win 3 of these games to have a shot at the playoffs"
 
Oldskoolgriz said:
I see a lot of mentioning that Bobby overrides play calls on offense. And that makes a lot of sense. Because the offense I remember watching when Brent Pease first started at Montana, they used to throw the ball 75-80% of the time and the QB was averaging 300+yards a game with a minimum of 3 TD passes. The formations he ran were always 4 Wars, or 5. It was the old Run and Shoot with Wr screens, slot screens, RB screens and TE screens. I think if Pease had full control, we would see a lot more passing which would open up the run game even more.

I don't think Bobby overrides many play calls. Sure, he probably has significant input in what offense the Griz run.
 
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