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Constructive Criticism

PlayerRep said:
1. Thoroughly ASSess what caused the losses in the last 2 games. Talk with a good sampling of players--for this suggestion and some of the others.

2. Thoroughly ASSess the reasons for the seemingly large inconsistency in team play in the past 2 years.

3. Thoroughly ASSess the reasons you say the team seemed not to be "on" in a number of games in the last half of the season. It's probably okay to give your ASSessment in private and to the QB Club, but probably best not to say it so much to the press.

4. Continue to ASSess the inability to win consistently on the road. You didn't invent the problem, but it seems not to have improved.

5. ASSesss whether the offensive and defensive schemes are too complicated, create too many situations for big and costly mistakes to occur, and/or put too much pressures on players in certain positions.

6. Have the right offense and players to be able to pick up 3d and 2 and 4th and 1. 4th down conversion percentage must have been pretty weak this year.

7. Embrace the program, traditions and supporters more. Sure, you are the head coach and you get to run the show, and will want to put your stamp on the program, but the program and traditions are bigger and more imporatant than any head coach. Great success on the field will largely trump these other things, but you may not achieve great success without embracing these other things. In any event, you will have a more pleasant time in Missoula and will have more understanding if you embrace more aspects of the program and more of the supporters. Say only good things when coaches leave, as they have developed many friendships and supporters while they were at UM. Perhaps less of a my way or the highway approach would be better too.

8. Get more QUALITY kids on the roster.

9. You have my full support. For one more year. Ha.
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That is a lot of ass. And I fixed #8 for you.
 
I think all those are apparent and valid points that need to be addressed PlayerRep.

Hope Bob follows through with post season presser.

Much rather have coach who learns from his mistakes and builds program with high quality students, then to continue down the road of a replacing HC continually, Read had decades of experience before coming to Montana. He built things the right way and was given several years.

Bob ain't Don, but Bob will need several years also, no quick fix. Not what people want to hear...Everyone wants to be successful like Bobby and Don days...could have quick success, but the reality is...could be several years before everyone is happy.

Hope Bob is the guy and gets the job done, that would be the best case scenario.
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
PlayerRep said:
1. Thoroughly ASSess what caused the losses in the last 2 games. Talk with a good sampling of players--for this suggestion and some of the others.

2. Thoroughly ASSess the reasons for the seemingly large inconsistency in team play in the past 2 years.

3. Thoroughly ASSess the reasons you say the team seemed not to be "on" in a number of games in the last half of the season. It's probably okay to give your ASSessment in private and to the QB Club, but probably best not to say it so much to the press.

4. Continue to ASSess the inability to win consistently on the road. You didn't invent the problem, but it seems not to have improved.

5. ASSesss whether the offensive and defensive schemes are too complicated, create too many situations for big and costly mistakes to occur, and/or put too much pressures on players in certain positions.

6. Have the right offense and players to be able to pick up 3d and 2 and 4th and 1. 4th down conversion percentage must have been pretty weak this year.

7. Embrace the program, traditions and supporters more. Sure, you are the head coach and you get to run the show, and will want to put your stamp on the program, but the program and traditions are bigger and more imporatant than any head coach. Great success on the field will largely trump these other things, but you may not achieve great success without embracing these other things. In any event, you will have a more pleasant time in Missoula and will have more understanding if you embrace more aspects of the program and more of the supporters. Say only good things when coaches leave, as they have developed many friendships and supporters while they were at UM. Perhaps less of a my way or the highway approach would be better too.

8. Get more QUALITY kids on the roster.

9. You have my full support. For one more year. Ha.
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That is a lot of ass. And I fixed #8 for you.
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No, Helana. More montana kids. Don't fix anything for me. You are the biggest dumbass on eGriz at this time.
 
Sam A. Blitz said:
I subscribe to the opinion that the fans, even ones with playing or coaching experience, aren't going to be able to provide much constructive criticism to the coaching staff or players. I would just hope that the coaching staff has a good working relationship with one another and will work together to figure out ways to improve the team. I also hope that the staff makes a strong effort into player development this offseason. Montana has had some coaches in the past that have done an outstanding job of that (the number of players in the NFL the past 10 years is strong proof). The coaches also need to work on improving themselves. Work on ways that they can be more effective as coaches and leaders and to maintain enthusiasm (yes, that can be worked on).

Beyond that the staff needs to continue to go out there and sell the program to prospective recruits. Build excitement and belief that the team will work towards high expectations next year.

Like anyone else, I'm disappointed with how the year finished. I felt that the team had the talent to make a playoff run, it just didn't come together. However, I've also played on a football team that failed to meet its potential and understand that dwelling and whining on the disappointments can be toxic. I hope we as fans will rally around the team this off season and support them. Regardless of your feelings about the current coaching staff, the players deserve the fans to maintain excitement around the team. Fan support really does make a difference in building and maintaining a winning culture.
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One of the more thought out quotes that sums up responsibility of players,coaches and fans.

The toxic part is what really worries me. As a fan we want team and coaches to band together, more so when things get tough. Then you have ones who claim to be fans and are viciously attacking people(administration, coaches, players, fans).

Each of us as a fan have to manage what we say on forums and in our everyday life. What we say to our family and friends in private should be edited for the public. We expect the HC to be thoughtful of his comments to the public. Doesn't the fan also have bear some responsability also?

SG in post game radio show after MSU loss was about to say some critism about team...he caught himself...realized it wasn't the time or the place...and wraped up with a positive thought. Scott has invested alot in UM football...he gained my respect as a fan by holding back when he was emotionally charged up. I'm sure in private there was a need to vent. I never thought he was blindly supporting or burying his head in the sand by not ranting on about the problems.
 
PlayerRep said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
PlayerRep said:
1. Thoroughly ASSess what caused the losses in the last 2 games. Talk with a good sampling of players--for this suggestion and some of the others.

2. Thoroughly ASSess the reasons for the seemingly large inconsistency in team play in the past 2 years.

3. Thoroughly ASSess the reasons you say the team seemed not to be "on" in a number of games in the last half of the season. It's probably okay to give your ASSessment in private and to the QB Club, but probably best not to say it so much to the press.

4. Continue to ASSess the inability to win consistently on the road. You didn't invent the problem, but it seems not to have improved.

5. ASSesss whether the offensive and defensive schemes are too complicated, create too many situations for big and costly mistakes to occur, and/or put too much pressures on players in certain positions.

6. Have the right offense and players to be able to pick up 3d and 2 and 4th and 1. 4th down conversion percentage must have been pretty weak this year.

7. Embrace the program, traditions and supporters more. Sure, you are the head coach and you get to run the show, and will want to put your stamp on the program, but the program and traditions are bigger and more imporatant than any head coach. Great success on the field will largely trump these other things, but you may not achieve great success without embracing these other things. In any event, you will have a more pleasant time in Missoula and will have more understanding if you embrace more aspects of the program and more of the supporters. Say only good things when coaches leave, as they have developed many friendships and supporters while they were at UM. Perhaps less of a my way or the highway approach would be better too.

8. Get more QUALITY kids on the roster.

9. You have my full support. For one more year. Ha.
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That is a lot of ass. And I fixed #8 for you.
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No, Helana. More montana kids. Don't fix anything for me. You are the biggest dumbass on eGriz at this time.
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Why is it so important to recruit more Montana kids? How many Montana kids is enough?
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
PlayerRep said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
PlayerRep said:
1. Thoroughly ASSess what caused the losses in the last 2 games. Talk with a good sampling of players--for this suggestion and some of the others.

2. Thoroughly ASSess the reasons for the seemingly large inconsistency in team play in the past 2 years.

3. Thoroughly ASSess the reasons you say the team seemed not to be "on" in a number of games in the last half of the season. It's probably okay to give your ASSessment in private and to the QB Club, but probably best not to say it so much to the press.

4. Continue to ASSess the inability to win consistently on the road. You didn't invent the problem, but it seems not to have improved.

5. ASSesss whether the offensive and defensive schemes are too complicated, create too many situations for big and costly mistakes to occur, and/or put too much pressures on players in certain positions.

6. Have the right offense and players to be able to pick up 3d and 2 and 4th and 1. 4th down conversion percentage must have been pretty weak this year.

7. Embrace the program, traditions and supporters more. Sure, you are the head coach and you get to run the show, and will want to put your stamp on the program, but the program and traditions are bigger and more imporatant than any head coach. Great success on the field will largely trump these other things, but you may not achieve great success without embracing these other things. In any event, you will have a more pleasant time in Missoula and will have more understanding if you embrace more aspects of the program and more of the supporters. Say only good things when coaches leave, as they have developed many friendships and supporters while they were at UM. Perhaps less of a my way or the highway approach would be better too.

8. Get more QUALITY kids on the roster.

9. You have my full support. For one more year. Ha.
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That is a lot of ass. And I fixed #8 for you.
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No, Helana. More montana kids. Don't fix anything for me. You are the biggest dumbass on eGriz at this time.
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Why is it so important to recruit more Montana kids? How many Montana kids is enough?
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41.5
 
Stitt's recruiting classes have had 6,6, and there are 7 Montana kids whom have verballed in this next class. I have no issue with those numbers.
 
What concerns me the most is whether Stitt is a leader or not. Forget all the X's and O's for a minute but can he get these players to respect him as a leader?

I was close to the sideline at Cat game and I saw a lot of seniors motivating and leading the huddles. It just looks like to me Stitt doesn't have the respect that other Griz leaders have had in the past?

If you take a look back to past coaches. Glenn, Hauck, Pflugrad, Delaney. They all were in my opinion respected by the players and great leaders. I just don't know if Stitt has that quality? I may be wrong but I saw a lot reasons for lack of leadership. Undisciplined, lack of motivation in some games, etc.

I hope I am proven wrong as I love the Griz, but I'm not so confident..
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
PlayerRep said:
1. Thoroughly ASSess what caused the losses in the last 2 games. Talk with a good sampling of players--for this suggestion and some of the others.

2. Thoroughly ASSess the reasons for the seemingly large inconsistency in team play in the past 2 years.

3. Thoroughly ASSess the reasons you say the team seemed not to be "on" in a number of games in the last half of the season. It's probably okay to give your ASSessment in private and to the QB Club, but probably best not to say it so much to the press.

4. Continue to ASSess the inability to win consistently on the road. You didn't invent the problem, but it seems not to have improved.

5. ASSesss whether the offensive and defensive schemes are too complicated, create too many situations for big and costly mistakes to occur, and/or put too much pressures on players in certain positions.

6. Have the right offense and players to be able to pick up 3d and 2 and 4th and 1. 4th down conversion percentage must have been pretty weak this year.

7. Embrace the program, traditions and supporters more. Sure, you are the head coach and you get to run the show, and will want to put your stamp on the program, but the program and traditions are bigger and more imporatant than any head coach. Great success on the field will largely trump these other things, but you may not achieve great success without embracing these other things. In any event, you will have a more pleasant time in Missoula and will have more understanding if you embrace more aspects of the program and more of the supporters. Say only good things when coaches leave, as they have developed many friendships and supporters while they were at UM. Perhaps less of a my way or the highway approach would be better too.

8. Get more QUALITY kids on the roster.

9. You have my full support. For one more year. Ha.
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That is a lot of ass. And I fixed #8 for yoyou.
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Wow, I feel stupid just reading that.

PR, spot on with #7. Stitt's ability to be a positive spokesman for the program was my biggest concern when he was hired. If he fully embraces the traditions of this program, good things will happen.
 
I like Stitt's hurry up, no huddle concept but a lot of times it seemed like we dither around and let the defense switch in and out of coverages which seemed to confuse our QBs. Also, why can't the hurry up involve more than one jumbo package run play? Can't they mix it up with something really crazy like, a full back or two tight ends (using "loaner" O- linemen) just to throw a wrinkle in now and then?
We gotta be able to pick up those 2nd and short and 3rd and short situations via the run.
 
Buttegrizzle said:
I like Stitt's hurry up, no huddle concept but a lot of times it seemed like we dither around and let the defense switch in and out of coverages which seemed to confuse our QBs. Also, why can't the hurry up involve more than one jumbo package run play? Can't they mix it up with something really crazy like, a full back or two tight ends (using "loaner" O- linemen) just to throw a wrinkle in now and then?
We gotta be able to pick up those 2nd and short and 3rd and short situations via the run.
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There are enough big WRs like Bingham, two back shotgun formation with WR lined up in H-back position. Plenty of WRs that are as big as TEs. Using the big WRs like TEs to block in tight formations removes confusion of reporting eligibility when additional OL come in.

Stitt wanted to stay in one formation primarily to keep alignment for offensive players simple...speeding things up.

Stitt's insistence on number of plays needs to be balanced with control. NDSU game against Iowa this year was one of the best examples of offensive control. Multiple formations including some that we run. They attacked sidelines and then when defense adjusted they dominated off tackle plays. The number of plays was not memorable it was sustained drives NDSU controlled the time of possession and wore Iowa down. It became a beat down.

Stitt has adjusted, there needs to be additional wrinkles in the offense. For goaline and short yardage.

One additional wrinkle is the max protect first down pass. Get one or two WRs in routes and block with everyone else...giving WR time to get open and simplifying the read for the QB.

Plenty of options for Stitt to implement, will be interesting to see the evolution.
 
People need to take a step back and just chill out. Look at our players this past season. Receiving core were young and inexperienced. Qb was tall slow more suited for a West Coast kind of offence. Let us all just settle down until we have a mobile QB (suited more for this kind of offence) with receivers with another year of experience under their belt. I will say that special teams needs to get a hell of a lot better, best athletes on the field. Time to buckle down Mr. Stitt and take control. I am looking for a much better 2017 for our GRIZ!
 
(Senior) leadership will be key this offseason for UM. Who are the 2017 senior leaders for the griz?


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Dillon said:
People need to take a step back and just chill out. Look at our players this past season. Receiving core were young and inexperienced. Qb was tall slow more suited for a West Coast kind of offence. Let us all just settle down until we have a mobile QB (suited more for this kind of offence) with receivers with another year of experience under their belt. I will say that special teams needs to get a hell of a lot better, best athletes on the field. Time to buckle down Mr. Stitt and take control. I am looking for a much better 2017 for our GRIZ!
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This.

Like it or not, none of the QB's that played this year were of the caliber that they could handle good defenses and/or defensive coordinators. Three years in Stitt's offense is a must at this position, and for the receivers for that matter. I think with Jensen working with the receivers this summer we are going to see a consistently better offense passing the ball. I do think with the linemen we have coming in, a shift in blocking schemes for run plays should be considered, if it can be integrated without causing confusion. Watched some of these guys pull and trap on videos and they seemed to be rather effective doing that. Middle screens and/or QB draws here and there might be nice too.
 
This begs the question then, If BG was so unsuited to run this offense, why weren't the other qb's given a bigger chance to see how they could do? Challich was given two games, but he is also a senior. The other's are clearly untested and will be going into next season. I view this as either a lack of confidence or an unwillingness to adapt in-game. Regardless, neither possibility instills much hope in our prospects for next year.

If, as suggested, it takes three years for a qb to become truly proficient in this offense one can argue that it is not a good fit for college ball and may be more suited to the pro's or the CFL! When you have, best 5 years of eligibility for a college player to play 4 and it takes 3 of those years to become adept at running the system it seems to me it is the system itself that needs to be adapted, not the personnel!

Would we have been any worse off with either Chad or Reese in the starting role all year? I don't know the answer but I do not like the possible ones I can think of.
 
Gaeilge1 said:
This begs the question then, If BG was so unsuited to run this offense, why weren't the other qb's given a bigger chance to see how they could do? Challich was given two games, but he is also a senior. The other's are clearly untested and will be going into next season. I view this as either a lack of confidence or an unwillingness to adapt in-game. Regardless, neither possibility instills much hope in our prospects for next year.

If, as suggested, it takes three years for a qb to become truly proficient in this offense one can argue that it is not a good fit for college ball and may be more suited to the pro's or the CFL! When you have, best 5 years of eligibility for a college player to play 4 and it takes 3 of those years to become adept at running the system it seems to me it is the system itself that needs to be adapted, not the personnel!

Would we have been any worse off with either Chad or Reese in the starting role all year? I don't know the answer but I do not like the possible ones I can think of.
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Brady was recruited by Pflu which no one will be able to explain to me because he ran a spread option and valued a mobile QB. I think Stitt suggested it takes a full year of learning and by year two, viola. The answer I think you may have overlooked starts with pig and ends with headed. The other that comes to mind is Stitt's a big Vegas devotee and in the spirit of what goes on there staying there - he doubled down after a trip to the buffet table.

In truth, we'll likely never know.
 
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