Congratulations. Insufferable cat fans.

[uofmman1122]

I will absolutely hate the obnoxious fans that come over here and all my old personal bobcat friends that try to rub my nose in it, but it will be way better for the FCS, the state of Montana, and the University of Montana if the cats pull it off and beat the Bison, as much as it pains me to admit it.

I’d really like to hear your logic behind how Montana State, winning a national championship, would be good for the University of Montana.

Did UM winning their first national championship in 1995 benefit MSU in any way?

I know you wouldn't understand having a rivalry as passionate as ours, but it makes the rivalry better. That's good for both schools.

Nice to see you're still here, though. Maybe another 1,500 posts, and we'll finally think you're cool. :lol:

 

[2011BisonAlumni]

I’d really like to hear your logic behind how Montana State, winning a national championship, would be good for the University of Montana.

Did UM winning their first national championship in 1995 benefit MSU in any way?

I know you wouldn't understand having a rivalry as passionate as ours, but it makes the rivalry better. That's good for both schools.

Nice to see you're still here, though. Maybe another 1,500 posts, and we'll finally think you're cool. :lol:

I would disagree. I understood the rivalry between NDSU and UND very well. The bitterness and hate was unrivaled in that day and was taken off the field in a D1 move….a move that UND administration and alumni who served in the legislature actively resisted.

But NDSU moved on…..to be honest, the rivalry is the reason UM and MSU have both underperformed at a national level.

You failed to answer my question though. How would MSU winning good for UM? Did UM winning in 1995 or 2001 benefit MSU?

 

[Griz Addict]

Them winning doesn't help the griz at all. Hurts us, especially with recruiting.

 

[Bear Spray]

I know you wouldn't understand having a rivalry as passionate as ours, but it makes the rivalry better. That's good for both schools.

Nice to see you're still here, though. Maybe another 1,500 posts, and we'll finally think you're cool. :lol:

I would disagree. I understood the rivalry between NDSU and UND very well. The bitterness and hate was unrivaled in that day and was taken off the field in a D1 move….a move that UND administration and alumni who served in the legislature actively resisted.

But NDSU moved on…..to be honest, the rivalry is the reason UM and MSU have both underperformed at a national level.

You failed to answer my question though. How would MSU winning good for UM? Did UM winning in 1995 or 2001 benefit MSU?

You can't accurately compare the NDSU/UND rivalry to the UM/MSU rivalry. It's nowhere close. I have hundreds of business associates in ND and a company that has a box in the Fargo Dome so take that for fact - they all say the same thing- it doesn't compare. So get that out of your head for starters & we can have a conversation.

MSU was beaten and battered for 16 straight years. There were a couple of close calls, but it wore mightily on the MSU faithful. (I believe this was the breeding ground for Mony-Mony but that's for another discussion) Sometime after the streak the MSU administration decided to invest in the football program. Stadium expansions, funds for more and specific coaches and trainers, the Bobcat Athletic Complex for the football team, and hiring SDSU's athletic director for expertise. They're now readying for construction of an indoor practice facility. And there's more. But back in the day UM had their way with MSU along with the Big Sky conference & most of the nation. That's why many Griz fans live in the past - it's a great past/tradition rivaled by very few. In the last 10 years +/- NDSU and the MVC has rose to the top. As a Cat fan I can tell you we're all more than tired of it - it's not good for the FCS, and we're finally closing the gap. This may be the year, we'll see in a couple weeks.

The rivalry was the catalist for MSU to $hit or get off the pot. UM pushed MSU to get better and they have, now competing for the national title. MSU's success pushed UM to hire Bobby back. UM is now pursuing RTD - Return to Dominance, in part due to the Cats progress and the rivalry. So my friend from the prairie, MSU's success is good for UM and the entire Big Sky Conference as it gives us all relevance, just as UM's success is the counterbalance for MSU to get better. Recruits nationally can watch BSC football competing with and beating the MVC. Kids looking at MSU can also look 210 miles to the west and find a great program steeped in tradition, the best stadium in all the FCS, rabid fans, a beauty of a town, western Montana, and a university with a different focus than MSU has.

MSU on national TV pounding the only team to beat NDSU is good for ALL of Montana including UM. It's great for the FCS too. Most folks over here (not all) get it. Both teams are loaded with Montana kids so we can all find something to root for in three weeks. The steadfast Griz fans who hate the Cats can still look at who MSU is playing and root against NDSU. The entire BSC and every other team in the MVC is likely rooting for MSU too. You guys are good. Too good. Your success pushed MSU to hire the Vigen. Do you think it's a coincidence our AD & head coach are from SDSU & NDSU? Or can you see that even your success is helping us to get better? You pretty much improve or roll over.

If the CATS win in 3 weeks, Bobby will certainly remind recruits that the Griz beat the snot out of the Cats this year. So yes, MSU's success is good for UM and I expect UM to get better - very much better! I expect both Montana teams to be paired on opposite sides of the bracket, beating MVC teams and hopefully we'll show the nation what a rivalry this one is in the Chipper.

Second question: No. UM winning in 1995 did nothing positive for MSU. MSU wasn't dedicated & ready to compete in 1995, not by a long shot. As you can see from yesterday, we are now, much in thanks to our Big Brother in Missoula.

 

[Htowngriz]

Is that so? Lol

Well you lost in M-Town and that is what it is, be thankful you didn't get the other side of the bracket.

That said, I hope you beat NDSU, although the critical-thinking part of me thinks that won't happen ...

Did we get beat in Missoula sure, but this a different team than what ended the regular season.

Lol, no it isn't. You've just been playing teams that aren't as good as us since then.

 

['68griz]

Them winning doesn't help the griz at all. Hurts us, especially with recruiting.

I completely agree!!

 

[uofmman1122]

I would disagree. I understood the rivalry between NDSU and UND very well. The bitterness and hate was unrivaled in that day and was taken off the field in a D1 move….a move that UND administration and alumni who served in the legislature actively resisted.

But NDSU moved on…..to be honest, the rivalry is the reason UM and MSU have both underperformed at a national level.

You failed to answer my question though. How would MSU winning good for UM? Did UM winning in 1995 or 2001 benefit MSU?

You can't accurately compare the NDSU/UND rivalry to the UM/MSU rivalry. It's nowhere close. I have hundreds of business associates in ND and a company that has a box in the Fargo Dome so take that for fact - they all say the same thing- it doesn't compare. So get that out of your head for starters & we can have a conversation.

MSU was beaten and battered for 16 straight years. There were a couple of close calls, but it wore mightily on the MSU faithful. (I believe this was the breeding ground for Mony-Mony but that's for another discussion) Sometime after the streak the MSU administration decided to invest in the football program. Stadium expansions, funds for more and specific coaches and trainers, the Bobcat Athletic Complex for the football team, and hiring SDSU's athletic director for expertise. They're now readying for construction of an indoor practice facility. And there's more. But back in the day UM had their way with MSU along with the Big Sky conference & most of the nation. That's why many Griz fans live in the past - it's a great past/tradition rivaled by very few. In the last 10 years +/- NDSU and the MVC has rose to the top. As a Cat fan I can tell you we're all more than tired of it - it's not good for the FCS, and we're finally closing the gap. This may be the year, we'll see in a couple weeks.

The rivalry was the catalist for MSU to $hit or get off the pot. UM pushed MSU to get better and they have, now competing for the national title. MSU's success pushed UM to hire Bobby back. UM is now pursuing RTD - Return to Dominance, in part due to the Cats progress and the rivalry. So my friend from the prairie, MSU's success is good for UM and the entire Big Sky Conference as it gives us all relevance, just as UM's success is the counterbalance for MSU to get better. Recruits nationally can watch BSC football competing with and beating the MVC. Kids looking at MSU can also look 210 miles to the west and find a great program steeped in tradition, the best stadium in all the FCS, rabid fans, a beauty of a town, western Montana, and a university with a different focus than MSU has.

MSU on national TV pounding the only team to beat NDSU is good for ALL of Montana including UM. It's great for the FCS too. Most folks over here (not all) get it. Both teams are loaded with Montana kids so we can all find something to root for in three weeks. The steadfast Griz fans who hate the Cats can still look at who MSU is playing and root against NDSU. The entire BSC and every other team in the MVC is likely rooting for MSU too. You guys are good. Too good. Your success pushed MSU to hire the Vigen. Do you think it's a coincidence our AD & head coach are from SDSU & NDSU? Or can you see that even your success is helping us to get better? You pretty much improve or roll over.

If the CATS win in 3 weeks, Bobby will certainly remind recruits that the Griz beat the snot out of the Cats this year. So yes, MSU's success is good for UM and I expect UM to get better - very much better! I expect both Montana teams to be paired on opposite sides of the bracket, beating MVC teams and hopefully we'll show the nation what a rivalry this one is in the Chipper.

Second question: No. UM winning in 1995 did nothing positive for MSU. MSU wasn't dedicated & ready to compete in 1995, not by a long shot. As you can see from yesterday, we are now, much in thanks to our Big Brother in Missoula.

Very nicely put, thank you :thumb:

 

[grizfan47]

I would disagree. I understood the rivalry between NDSU and UND very well. The bitterness and hate was unrivaled in that day and was taken off the field in a D1 move….a move that UND administration and alumni who served in the legislature actively resisted.

But NDSU moved on…..to be honest, the rivalry is the reason UM and MSU have both underperformed at a national level.

You failed to answer my question though. How would MSU winning good for UM? Did UM winning in 1995 or 2001 benefit MSU?

You can't accurately compare the NDSU/UND rivalry to the UM/MSU rivalry. It's nowhere close. I have hundreds of business associates in ND and a company that has a box in the Fargo Dome so take that for fact - they all say the same thing- it doesn't compare. So get that out of your head for starters & we can have a conversation.

MSU was beaten and battered for 16 straight years. There were a couple of close calls, but it wore mightily on the MSU faithful. (I believe this was the breeding ground for Mony-Mony but that's for another discussion) Sometime after the streak the MSU administration decided to invest in the football program. Stadium expansions, funds for more and specific coaches and trainers, the Bobcat Athletic Complex for the football team, and hiring SDSU's athletic director for expertise. They're now readying for construction of an indoor practice facility. And there's more. But back in the day UM had their way with MSU along with the Big Sky conference & most of the nation. That's why many Griz fans live in the past - it's a great past/tradition rivaled by very few. In the last 10 years +/- NDSU and the MVC has rose to the top. As a Cat fan I can tell you we're all more than tired of it - it's not good for the FCS, and we're finally closing the gap. This may be the year, we'll see in a couple weeks.

The rivalry was the catalist for MSU to $hit or get off the pot. UM pushed MSU to get better and they have, now competing for the national title. MSU's success pushed UM to hire Bobby back. UM is now pursuing RTD - Return to Dominance, in part due to the Cats progress and the rivalry. So my friend from the prairie, MSU's success is good for UM and the entire Big Sky Conference as it gives us all relevance, just as UM's success is the counterbalance for MSU to get better. Recruits nationally can watch BSC football competing with and beating the MVC. Kids looking at MSU can also look 210 miles to the west and find a great program steeped in tradition, the best stadium in all the FCS, rabid fans, a beauty of a town, western Montana, and a university with a different focus than MSU has.

MSU on national TV pounding the only team to beat NDSU is good for ALL of Montana including UM. It's great for the FCS too. Most folks over here (not all) get it. Both teams are loaded with Montana kids so we can all find something to root for in three weeks. The steadfast Griz fans who hate the Cats can still look at who MSU is playing and root against NDSU. The entire BSC and every other team in the MVC is likely rooting for MSU too. You guys are good. Too good. Your success pushed MSU to hire the Vigen. Do you think it's a coincidence our AD & head coach are from SDSU & NDSU? Or can you see that even your success is helping us to get better? You pretty much improve or roll over.

If the CATS win in 3 weeks, Bobby will certainly remind recruits that the Griz beat the snot out of the Cats this year. So yes, MSU's success is good for UM and I expect UM to get better - very much better! I expect both Montana teams to be paired on opposite sides of the bracket, beating MVC teams and hopefully we'll show the nation what a rivalry this one is in the Chipper.

Second question: No. UM winning in 1995 did nothing positive for MSU. MSU wasn't dedicated & ready to compete in 1995, not by a long shot. As you can see from yesterday, we are now, much in thanks to our Big Brother in Missoula.

Great post. I agree and am hoping the Cats beat NDSU. Iron sharpens iron. I would love to see the Griz and Cats at the top of the BSC every year and on opposite side of the bracket. This 12 team conference is a mess with the unbalanced scheduling.

 

[ordigger]

I would disagree. I understood the rivalry between NDSU and UND very well. The bitterness and hate was unrivaled in that day and was taken off the field in a D1 move….a move that UND administration and alumni who served in the legislature actively resisted.

But NDSU moved on…..to be honest, the rivalry is the reason UM and MSU have both underperformed at a national level.

You failed to answer my question though. How would MSU winning good for UM? Did UM winning in 1995 or 2001 benefit MSU?

You can't accurately compare the NDSU/UND rivalry to the UM/MSU rivalry. It's nowhere close. I have hundreds of business associates in ND and a company that has a box in the Fargo Dome so take that for fact - they all say the same thing- it doesn't compare. So get that out of your head for starters & we can have a conversation.

MSU was beaten and battered for 16 straight years. There were a couple of close calls, but it wore mightily on the MSU faithful. (I believe this was the breeding ground for Mony-Mony but that's for another discussion) Sometime after the streak the MSU administration decided to invest in the football program. Stadium expansions, funds for more and specific coaches and trainers, the Bobcat Athletic Complex for the football team, and hiring SDSU's athletic director for expertise. They're now readying for construction of an indoor practice facility. And there's more. But back in the day UM had their way with MSU along with the Big Sky conference & most of the nation. That's why many Griz fans live in the past - it's a great past/tradition rivaled by very few. In the last 10 years +/- NDSU and the MVC has rose to the top. As a Cat fan I can tell you we're all more than tired of it - it's not good for the FCS, and we're finally closing the gap. This may be the year, we'll see in a couple weeks.

The rivalry was the catalist for MSU to $hit or get off the pot. UM pushed MSU to get better and they have, now competing for the national title. MSU's success pushed UM to hire Bobby back. UM is now pursuing RTD - Return to Dominance, in part due to the Cats progress and the rivalry. So my friend from the prairie, MSU's success is good for UM and the entire Big Sky Conference as it gives us all relevance, just as UM's success is the counterbalance for MSU to get better. Recruits nationally can watch BSC football competing with and beating the MVC. Kids looking at MSU can also look 210 miles to the west and find a great program steeped in tradition, the best stadium in all the FCS, rabid fans, a beauty of a town, western Montana, and a university with a different focus than MSU has.

MSU on national TV pounding the only team to beat NDSU is good for ALL of Montana including UM. It's great for the FCS too. Most folks over here (not all) get it. Both teams are loaded with Montana kids so we can all find something to root for in three weeks. The steadfast Griz fans who hate the Cats can still look at who MSU is playing and root against NDSU. The entire BSC and every other team in the MVC is likely rooting for MSU too. You guys are good. Too good. Your success pushed MSU to hire the Vigen. Do you think it's a coincidence our AD & head coach are from SDSU & NDSU? Or can you see that even your success is helping us to get better? You pretty much improve or roll over.

If the CATS win in 3 weeks, Bobby will certainly remind recruits that the Griz beat the snot out of the Cats this year. So yes, MSU's success is good for UM and I expect UM to get better - very much better! I expect both Montana teams to be paired on opposite sides of the bracket, beating MVC teams and hopefully we'll show the nation what a rivalry this one is in the Chipper.

Second question: No. UM winning in 1995 did nothing positive for MSU. MSU wasn't dedicated & ready to compete in 1995, not by a long shot. As you can see from yesterday, we are now, much in thanks to our Big Brother in Missoula.

Excellent post!

 

[grizghost]

You can't accurately compare the NDSU/UND rivalry to the UM/MSU rivalry. It's nowhere close. I have hundreds of business associates in ND and a company that has a box in the Fargo Dome so take that for fact - they all say the same thing- it doesn't compare. So get that out of your head for starters & we can have a conversation.

MSU was beaten and battered for 16 straight years. There were a couple of close calls, but it wore mightily on the MSU faithful. (I believe this was the breeding ground for Mony-Mony but that's for another discussion) Sometime after the streak the MSU administration decided to invest in the football program. Stadium expansions, funds for more and specific coaches and trainers, the Bobcat Athletic Complex for the football team, and hiring SDSU's athletic director for expertise. They're now readying for construction of an indoor practice facility. And there's more. But back in the day UM had their way with MSU along with the Big Sky conference & most of the nation. That's why many Griz fans live in the past - it's a great past/tradition rivaled by very few. In the last 10 years +/- NDSU and the MVC has rose to the top. As a Cat fan I can tell you we're all more than tired of it - it's not good for the FCS, and we're finally closing the gap. This may be the year, we'll see in a couple weeks.

The rivalry was the catalist for MSU to $hit or get off the pot. UM pushed MSU to get better and they have, now competing for the national title. MSU's success pushed UM to hire Bobby back. UM is now pursuing RTD - Return to Dominance, in part due to the Cats progress and the rivalry. So my friend from the prairie, MSU's success is good for UM and the entire Big Sky Conference as it gives us all relevance, just as UM's success is the counterbalance for MSU to get better. Recruits nationally can watch BSC football competing with and beating the MVC. Kids looking at MSU can also look 210 miles to the west and find a great program steeped in tradition, the best stadium in all the FCS, rabid fans, a beauty of a town, western Montana, and a university with a different focus than MSU has.

MSU on national TV pounding the only team to beat NDSU is good for ALL of Montana including UM. It's great for the FCS too. Most folks over here (not all) get it. Both teams are loaded with Montana kids so we can all find something to root for in three weeks. The steadfast Griz fans who hate the Cats can still look at who MSU is playing and root against NDSU. The entire BSC and every other team in the MVC is likely rooting for MSU too. You guys are good. Too good. Your success pushed MSU to hire the Vigen. Do you think it's a coincidence our AD & head coach are from SDSU & NDSU? Or can you see that even your success is helping us to get better? You pretty much improve or roll over.

If the CATS win in 3 weeks, Bobby will certainly remind recruits that the Griz beat the snot out of the Cats this year. So yes, MSU's success is good for UM and I expect UM to get better - very much better! I expect both Montana teams to be paired on opposite sides of the bracket, beating MVC teams and hopefully we'll show the nation what a rivalry this one is in the Chipper.

Second question: No. UM winning in 1995 did nothing positive for MSU. MSU wasn't dedicated & ready to compete in 1995, not by a long shot. As you can see from yesterday, we are now, much in thanks to our Big Brother in Missoula.

Excellent post!

 

[grizghost]

You can't accurately compare the NDSU/UND rivalry to the UM/MSU rivalry. It's nowhere close. I have hundreds of business associates in ND and a company that has a box in the Fargo Dome so take that for fact - they all say the same thing- it doesn't compare. So get that out of your head for starters & we can have a conversation.

MSU was beaten and battered for 16 straight years. There were a couple of close calls, but it wore mightily on the MSU faithful. (I believe this was the breeding ground for Mony-Mony but that's for another discussion) Sometime after the streak the MSU administration decided to invest in the football program. Stadium expansions, funds for more and specific coaches and trainers, the Bobcat Athletic Complex for the football team, and hiring SDSU's athletic director for expertise. They're now readying for construction of an indoor practice facility. And there's more. But back in the day UM had their way with MSU along with the Big Sky conference & most of the nation. That's why many Griz fans live in the past - it's a great past/tradition rivaled by very few. In the last 10 years +/- NDSU and the MVC has rose to the top. As a Cat fan I can tell you we're all more than tired of it - it's not good for the FCS, and we're finally closing the gap. This may be the year, we'll see in a couple weeks.

The rivalry was the catalist for MSU to $hit or get off the pot. UM pushed MSU to get better and they have, now competing for the national title. MSU's success pushed UM to hire Bobby back. UM is now pursuing RTD - Return to Dominance, in part due to the Cats progress and the rivalry. So my friend from the prairie, MSU's success is good for UM and the entire Big Sky Conference as it gives us all relevance, just as UM's success is the counterbalance for MSU to get better. Recruits nationally can watch BSC football competing with and beating the MVC. Kids looking at MSU can also look 210 miles to the west and find a great program steeped in tradition, the best stadium in all the FCS, rabid fans, a beauty of a town, western Montana, and a university with a different focus than MSU has.
MSU on national TV pounding the only team to beat NDSU is good for ALL of Montana including UM. It's great for the FCS too. Most folks over here (not all) get it. Both teams are loaded with Montana kids so we can all find something to root for in three weeks. The steadfast Griz fans who hate the Cats can still look at who MSU is playing and root against NDSU. The entire BSC and every other team in the MVC is likely rooting for MSU too. You guys are good. Too good. Your success pushed MSU to hire the Vigen. Do you think it's a coincidence our AD & head coach are from SDSU & NDSU? Or can you see that even your success is helping us to get better? You pretty much improve or roll over.

If the CATS win in 3 weeks, Bobby will certainly remind recruits that the Griz beat the snot out of the Cats this year. So yes, MSU's success is good for UM and I expect UM to get better - very much better! I expect both Montana teams to be paired on opposite sides of the bracket, beating MVC teams and hopefully we'll show the nation what a rivalry this one is in the Chipper.

Second question: No. UM winning in 1995 did nothing positive for MSU. MSU wasn't dedicated & ready to compete in 1995, not by a long shot. As you can see from yesterday, we are now, much in thanks to our Big Brother in Missoula.

Excellent post!

....2011 the Griz program face a fatal blow when the University President fired its AD and Head coach....thus putting
the program back for a least 10 years...Had the G-Program not been interrupted by the firings of a great coach and AD
the landscape would be quite different today...in that ten year lapse of time , MSU and NDSU caught up leaving the
G-Program in a downward spiral...Bobby was re-hired to bring the G-Program RTD...the future looks somewhat bright
but it will be a uphill battle once something has been lost!

 

[bigsky33]

Did we get beat in Missoula sure, but this a different team than what ended the regular season.

Lol, no it isn't. You've just been playing teams that aren't as good as us since then.

That is false. The Cats have a much better offense with Tommy Mellot. It is like night and day.

 

[ordigger]

Lol, no it isn't. You've just been playing teams that aren't as good as us since then.

That is false. The Cats have a much better offense with Tommy Mellot. It is like night and day.

This is false. The main difference is it’s a new offense and not much video out to study. Next season teams will be prepared for the offense. This season, Bison have a couple weeks to prepare for it.

Best analogy is Stitt’s Griz beating NDSU with an offense not many had seen, and later in the season they were able plan for it. Similar also to a rookie pitcher who does well first time against other teams but 2nd time they struggle.

I get that there is excitement and optimism but a couple of games proves nothing.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Lol, no it isn't. You've just been playing teams that aren't as good as us since then.

That is false. The Cats have a much better offense with Tommy Mellot. It is like night and day.

I’ve noticed that their offense has looked a lot better against worse defenses. It’s been wild. It’s like they play well against not so good defenses, and then flip the switch somehow and play not as well against good defenses. It’s inexplicable.

 

[2011BisonAlumni]

Excellent post!

....2011 the Griz program face a fatal blow when the University President fired its AD and Head coach....thus putting
the program back for a least 10 years...Had the G-Program not been interrupted by the firings of a great coach and AD
the landscape would be quite different today...in that ten year lapse of time , MSU and NDSU caught up leaving the
G-Program in a downward spiral...Bobby was re-hired to bring the G-Program RTD...the future looks somewhat bright
but it will be a uphill battle once something has been lost!

Ha…..you actually truly think the Griz’s descent was the reason for NDSU’s success? Delusional

Honestly, the FCS is lucky the Bison were not playoff eligible in 2006/2007. Those Bison teams were stacked with NFL talent , very highly ranked and had 3 wins over FBS teams as a transitioning D2 team.

The fact is there is not a single Griz team, maybe outside of 1995, that would have came close to beating any of the Bison teams of the past decade. The Griz have never, as a program, been as dominant as the Bison have. Your “run” from 19995-2009 is not comparable to the Bison’s run since 2010.

I could also reference that in the middle of your run, NDSU came into Washington Grizzly stadium and beat the Griz, as a D2 team, with half the scholarship players as the Griz.

 

[Bear Spray]

....2011 the Griz program face a fatal blow when the University President fired its AD and Head coach....thus putting
the program back for a least 10 years...Had the G-Program not been interrupted by the firings of a great coach and AD
the landscape would be quite different today...in that ten year lapse of time , MSU and NDSU caught up leaving the
G-Program in a downward spiral...Bobby was re-hired to bring the G-Program RTD...the future looks somewhat bright
but it will be a uphill battle once something has been lost!

Ha…..you actually truly think the Griz’s descent was the reason for NDSU’s success? Delusional

Honestly, the FCS is lucky the Bison were not playoff eligible in 2006/2007. Those Bison teams were stacked with NFL talent , very highly ranked and had 3 wins over FBS teams as a transitioning D2 team.

The fact is there is not a single Griz team, maybe outside of 1995, that would have came close to beating any of the Bison teams of the past decade. The Griz have never, as a program, been as dominant as the Bison have. Your “run” from 19995-2009 is not comparable to the Bison’s run since 2010.

I could also reference that in the middle of your run, NDSU came into Washington Grizzly stadium and beat the Griz, as a D2 team, with half the scholarship players as the Griz.

You know, I answered your question about the rivalry which should have shut you up but here you go again, picking fights & gloating. NDSU is damn good but that doesn't make your comments intelligent,, eloquent, or interesting. You're everything that's wrong with one team's dominance - the fans turn into raging assh0les. For the record, you're posting on Egriz - NDSU plays MSU in 3 weeks dumbass. But keep it up, perhaps some of the die hard Egrizzers will see the light & pull for the Cats!

 

[2011BisonAlumni]

Ha…..you actually truly think the Griz’s descent was the reason for NDSU’s success? Delusional

Honestly, the FCS is lucky the Bison were not playoff eligible in 2006/2007. Those Bison teams were stacked with NFL talent , very highly ranked and had 3 wins over FBS teams as a transitioning D2 team.

The fact is there is not a single Griz team, maybe outside of 1995, that would have came close to beating any of the Bison teams of the past decade. The Griz have never, as a program, been as dominant as the Bison have. Your “run” from 19995-2009 is not comparable to the Bison’s run since 2010.

I could also reference that in the middle of your run, NDSU came into Washington Grizzly stadium and beat the Griz, as a D2 team, with half the scholarship players as the Griz.

You know, I answered your question about the rivalry which should have shut you up but here you go again, picking fights & gloating. NDSU is damn good but that doesn't make your comments intelligent,, eloquent, or interesting. You're everything that's wrong with one team's dominance - the fans turn into raging assh0les. For the record, you're posting on Egriz - NDSU plays MSU in 3 weeks dumbass. But keep it up, perhaps some of the die hard Egrizzers will see the light & pull for the Cats!

I’m not being an asshole…I’m just saying that comment is delusional….because it is. The Griz not being as good has nothing to do with NDSU’s success. There is zero correlation.

 

[ordigger]

....2011 the Griz program face a fatal blow when the University President fired its AD and Head coach....thus putting
the program back for a least 10 years...Had the G-Program not been interrupted by the firings of a great coach and AD
the landscape would be quite different today...in that ten year lapse of time , MSU and NDSU caught up leaving the
G-Program in a downward spiral...Bobby was re-hired to bring the G-Program RTD...the future looks somewhat bright
but it will be a uphill battle once something has been lost!

Ha…..you actually truly think the Griz’s descent was the reason for NDSU’s success? Delusional

Honestly, the FCS is lucky the Bison were not playoff eligible in 2006/2007. Those Bison teams were stacked with NFL talent , very highly ranked and had 3 wins over FBS teams as a transitioning D2 team.

The fact is there is not a single Griz team, maybe outside of 1995, that would have came close to beating any of the Bison teams of the past decade. The Griz have never, as a program, been as dominant as the Bison have. Your “run” from 19995-2009 is not comparable to the Bison’s run since 2010.

I could also reference that in the middle of your run, NDSU came into Washington Grizzly stadium and beat the Griz, as a D2 team, with half the scholarship players as the Griz.

I would say maybe 1-2 teams. Overall the FCS is simply not as good the last 15 years vs the previous 15. A lot dominant teams have moved up to FBS …… and it’s now further diluted with more leaving. A 2025-2035 team could win 10 titles in a row, and they might be a top 5 team pre 2005

 

[Hawkeyebowhunter]

Feels weird being the little brother in a sense this year.

Damn glad we beat them, damn sh@tty to be sitting at home while they are in the Natty.

Can’t cheer for them, but I do hope the Bison lose. Go win one for the Montana boys.

Coaches-find an O-line that can win games, and a D-line that can pressure without sending 6 and we can be there next year

 

[NorthernCat]

I will absolutely hate the obnoxious fans that come over here and all my old personal bobcat friends that try to rub my nose in it, but it will be way better for the FCS, the state of Montana, and the University of Montana if the cats pull it off and beat the Bison, as much as it pains me to admit it.

I’d really like to hear your logic behind how Montana State, winning a national championship, would be good for the University of Montana.

Did UM winning their first national championship in 1995 benefit MSU in any way?

Yes. The griz program deserves a ton of credit for what they built in the 90s/early 2000s. They forced the rest of the conference to do everything we could to catch up. Obviously nobody will match their stadium, but other programs have made gains (MSU, EWU, Weber) because we had to try to catch up. I'd argue the same thing has happened in the MVFC. Obviously nobody will match your run of success but SDSU, USD, Missouri st, and others have improved their programs because they're forced to try to catch up or get totally left behind.