Thisis what we love in tournaments. Anything can happen. That being said, I think the BSC should limit its tourney to the top 6 with the top 2 given a by and played on the winner of the confernce's floor. And, if they cannot handle the logistics like Sac State, the it moves to the second place team.PeauxRouge said:
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Conference Tournament Drama
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IdaGriz01
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As of now, it looks like 11 top seeds have been booted from their respective conference tournaments. However, three of those “losers” are sure to get at-large NCAA bids: Auburn, Michigan State, and Xavier-Ohio.
And Nevada, pummeled by SDSU yesterday, will almost certainly get a bid anyway. Their rankings for RPI (16) and BPI (32) are strong, and their SOS is pretty good at #61. That loss did eliminate any faint hope that Boise State might get an at-large bid. Although Boise’s SOS was not good, their RPI and BPI were okay … and they did win 23 games. But there’s no way the Mountain West gets three bids. Now Boise is just hoping they’ll get an invite to the NIT.
The guys that really sweating are at Middle Tennessee State, which lost in their opening game to the #9 seed. They went into OT, but lost to a Southern Miss (16-18) team whose RPI rank is over 200. I still have MTSU on my bubble, but my gut says they’re headed for the NIT, along with the other six teams from one-bid conferences.
And Nevada, pummeled by SDSU yesterday, will almost certainly get a bid anyway. Their rankings for RPI (16) and BPI (32) are strong, and their SOS is pretty good at #61. That loss did eliminate any faint hope that Boise State might get an at-large bid. Although Boise’s SOS was not good, their RPI and BPI were okay … and they did win 23 games. But there’s no way the Mountain West gets three bids. Now Boise is just hoping they’ll get an invite to the NIT.
The guys that really sweating are at Middle Tennessee State, which lost in their opening game to the #9 seed. They went into OT, but lost to a Southern Miss (16-18) team whose RPI rank is over 200. I still have MTSU on my bubble, but my gut says they’re headed for the NIT, along with the other six teams from one-bid conferences.
mtgrizfankb
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IdaGriz01 said:
Don’t think it’s irony...the #1 played the #2 and the number 2 win on a buzzer beater. A great game. I think that proves more so that the two teams are even and the number 2 is probably better, going into their house and winning. It proves that if you don’t win the reg season you have to be better and prove it to get to the ncaa tourney.
Potomac Griz
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Probable 12 seed Louisiana lost to UT-Arlington in the semis of the Sun Belt tournament today. Looks like the finals will be UT-Arlington vs Georgia State. If the Griz can get past EWU I wonder if Louisiana being out might bump the Griz up to a 13 seed.
IdaGriz01
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As of now, exactly half of the #1 seeds (16 of 32) failed to win their conference championships. Eleven of those are headed for the NIT because they are from one-bid conferences. Of the other five, four -- including Nevada -- will almost certainly get NCAA at-large bids. I still think Middle Tennessee could be in trouble.
There are 8 more champions still to be decided (3 tonight, 5 more tomorrow). Among those eight, there are still five #1 seeds playing ... so we could see one or two more go down. Most of them will get bids anyway, but one or two might not.
My point: The NIT field is filling up, so I'm thinking chances for a Big Sky invite is pretty slim. Of course, the Griz don't have to worry about that.
There are 8 more champions still to be decided (3 tonight, 5 more tomorrow). Among those eight, there are still five #1 seeds playing ... so we could see one or two more go down. Most of them will get bids anyway, but one or two might not.
My point: The NIT field is filling up, so I'm thinking chances for a Big Sky invite is pretty slim. Of course, the Griz don't have to worry about that.
Potomac Griz
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Grand Canyon is hanging with New Mexico State (who Lunardi predicts will be a 12 seed). An upset in the WAC tournament would be a good thing for the Griz. New Mexico State though has a very very slight chance of being a bubble team... good RPI, win over ACC Miami and a couple other quality wins (top 100). Would the selection committee take a 2nd WAC team though? Probably not.
Last I checked Grand Canyon was only down by 3, 50-47 in the 2nd half with about 9 mins left. New Mexico State will probably pull off the win though. They're damn good.
Last I checked Grand Canyon was only down by 3, 50-47 in the 2nd half with about 9 mins left. New Mexico State will probably pull off the win though. They're damn good.
IdaGriz01
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NMSU now holding about an 8-10 point lead with less than 4 minutes to go. The four other #1 seeds still out there are Arizona (leading by 6 right now), Cincinnati, Rhode Island, and Harvard. Arizona and Cincinnati will get at-large NCAA bids even if they lose, as will (almost certainly) Rhode Island. A loss by Harvard means nothing because they won't bump anybody with an extra at-large bid.Potomac Griz said:
So as far as "bid stealers" go, we're pretty much already set. (NMSU now leading by 13, abt 2 min left).
Potomac Griz
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Damn I was hoping Grand Canyon would pull an upset. Oh well. NMSU is a hell of a team. They ended up winning by 14.
I guess later tonight and tomorrow I'll be rooting for UC-Irvine and Georgia State in their conference tournaments. Not because they'd be seeded higher than the Griz but because it strengthens the Griz's SOS and RPI if those two teams win. Plus it always looks good to have a win over another tournament team like we would over UC-Irvine
I guess later tonight and tomorrow I'll be rooting for UC-Irvine and Georgia State in their conference tournaments. Not because they'd be seeded higher than the Griz but because it strengthens the Griz's SOS and RPI if those two teams win. Plus it always looks good to have a win over another tournament team like we would over UC-Irvine
IdaGriz01
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Right now, the only bubble buster (or “bid stealer” as the preferred term this year, I guess) still playing is Davidson. If they win, that would most likely bump a bubble team because Rhode Island will surely get a bid based on its numbers (RPI =14, BPI = 25, SOS = 61, ranked #25 in the AP).
I’ve always had soft spot for Davidson in basketball, which has a great tradition in the sport (although not so much in recent years). Here’s this tiny private school (less than 2,000 students) that has, and still sometimes can, run with the big boys. And, since the Griz are in, I don’t care whose bubble they might burst.
The matchups in the Ivy and Sun Belt don’t really matter because those are both one-bid conferences. The Kentucky - Tennessee and Houston - Cincinnati games have no real impact on the bids because all four team are in, whatever happens in the games today.
Addendum: Even with their tournament run so far, I do not think Davidson gets in unless they win today. Their numbers are just not that great. If they do win, the bubble they burst might be St. Bonaventure. The Bonnie's numbers are good enough to be in the running for a bid, but not as strong as Rhode Island -- and I do not see the committee giving the A-10 three bids.
I’ve always had soft spot for Davidson in basketball, which has a great tradition in the sport (although not so much in recent years). Here’s this tiny private school (less than 2,000 students) that has, and still sometimes can, run with the big boys. And, since the Griz are in, I don’t care whose bubble they might burst.
The matchups in the Ivy and Sun Belt don’t really matter because those are both one-bid conferences. The Kentucky - Tennessee and Houston - Cincinnati games have no real impact on the bids because all four team are in, whatever happens in the games today.
Addendum: Even with their tournament run so far, I do not think Davidson gets in unless they win today. Their numbers are just not that great. If they do win, the bubble they burst might be St. Bonaventure. The Bonnie's numbers are good enough to be in the running for a bid, but not as strong as Rhode Island -- and I do not see the committee giving the A-10 three bids.
IdaGriz01
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Well, I'll be damned! My "soft spot" team pulled off the upset. Davidson is the champion of the A-10. (And another #1 seed went down.) I'm re-thinking the situation with St. Bonaventure, however. While I still think their status became "problematic," I'll still decide by the numbers compared to other teams hoping for at-large bids.
