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Colter Nuanez take on the Big Sky this year!

hm.grwn.grizfan said:
Thing is, I have several buddies who are bobcats fans, and none are sugar coaters or delusional. Most have mixed reviews for Ash, but in general are pretty displeased with the way the last few years have gone in both their bouts with UM and their results in the playoffs. The way they see it, in general, is that in the last 5-6 years MSU has struggled against the worst griz teams in the last 20 years, with exception to the 2011 season in which the griz were legit. That colter seemingly disregards this makes him, well, a reporter with an audience that eats that overhyped bullshit up. Maybe he truly thinks MSU goes 10-1 and that UM has a piss poor season, which would be a reasonable assumption given the turnover in both coaching and players, I suppose. Who knows. All I know, is that we can't get any worse than we have been offensively during the Delaney years, and stitts offense will only improve with time in addition to improving a Gregorak coached defense that has been showing improvement every year. That doesn't bode well for the rational bobcat fan.
I can't comprehend how most cat fans are in favor of Ash. He's been there something like....8 years? Someone correct me if I'm wrong there. They have already gotten everything out of him that they ever will.
 
hm.grwn.grizfan said:
Thing is, I have several buddies who are bobcats fans, and none are sugar coaters or delusional. Most have mixed reviews for Ash, but in general are pretty displeased with the way the last few years have gone in both their bouts with UM and their results in the playoffs. The way they see it, in general, is that in the last 5-6 years MSU has struggled against the worst griz teams in the last 20 years, with exception to the 2011 season in which the griz were legit. That colter seemingly disregards this makes him, well, a reporter with an audience that eats that overhyped bullshit up. Maybe he truly thinks MSU goes 10-1 and that UM has a piss poor season, which would be a reasonable assumption given the turnover in both coaching and players, I suppose. Who knows. All I know, is that we can't get any worse than we have been offensively during the Delaney years, and stitts offense will only improve with time in addition to improving a Gregorak coached defense that has been showing improvement every year. That doesn't bode well for the rational bobcat fan.

Then we are all reporters.

Here is this reporter's just as relevant take on the Big Sky this year:

Nobody will really care about any game except for (1) NDSU v. UM; (2) MSU v. EWU, (3) EWU v. UM, and (4) UM v. MSU. Other than that all teams without Montana in the name will have little to no coverage outside of their respective home towns (and sometimes not even there). Accordingly, it's really pointless to even care about whether SUU can beat USD in Timbukthree. The majority of BSC fans will only care about another team's record when it comes time to play the Griz. So, for the relevant games listed above:

1. Penciling in NDSU
2. EWU wins by 6, but the score is 109-103
3. UM by 3
4. UM by 13

Cats finish 6-5 and Ash wins BSC Coach of the Year
EWU finishes 9-2
UM finishes 10-1
 
brewskis said:
hm.grwn.grizfan said:
Thing is, I have several buddies who are bobcats fans, and none are sugar coaters or delusional. Most have mixed reviews for Ash, but in general are pretty displeased with the way the last few years have gone in both their bouts with UM and their results in the playoffs. The way they see it, in general, is that in the last 5-6 years MSU has struggled against the worst griz teams in the last 20 years, with exception to the 2011 season in which the griz were legit. That colter seemingly disregards this makes him, well, a reporter with an audience that eats that overhyped bullshit up. Maybe he truly thinks MSU goes 10-1 and that UM has a piss poor season, which would be a reasonable assumption given the turnover in both coaching and players, I suppose. Who knows. All I know, is that we can't get any worse than we have been offensively during the Delaney years, and stitts offense will only improve with time in addition to improving a Gregorak coached defense that has been showing improvement every year. That doesn't bode well for the rational bobcat fan.
I can't comprehend how most cat fans are in favor of Ash. He's been there something like....8 years? Someone correct me if I'm wrong there. They have already gotten everything out of him that they ever will.
Several of said buddies actually wouldn't mind seeing him gone if this season turns out similar to the last few. Thing is, and I'm always going back and forth in debate with em over this, is how do you fire a guy that has a proven record of winning? MSU is not Nebraska. It can't just fire a head coach that is winning, just not winning championships, and expect to bring in someone who can do better IMO. It's a tough call, and I'd want a change of some kind if I were a Bobcats fan too, it's just a tough freaking call. Haha
 
CDAGRIZ said:
hm.grwn.grizfan said:
Thing is, I have several buddies who are bobcats fans, and none are sugar coaters or delusional. Most have mixed reviews for Ash, but in general are pretty displeased with the way the last few years have gone in both their bouts with UM and their results in the playoffs. The way they see it, in general, is that in the last 5-6 years MSU has struggled against the worst griz teams in the last 20 years, with exception to the 2011 season in which the griz were legit. That colter seemingly disregards this makes him, well, a reporter with an audience that eats that overhyped bullshit up. Maybe he truly thinks MSU goes 10-1 and that UM has a piss poor season, which would be a reasonable assumption given the turnover in both coaching and players, I suppose. Who knows. All I know, is that we can't get any worse than we have been offensively during the Delaney years, and stitts offense will only improve with time in addition to improving a Gregorak coached defense that has been showing improvement every year. That doesn't bode well for the rational bobcat fan.

Then we are all reporters.

Here is this reporter's just as relevant take on the Big Sky this year:

Nobody will really care about any game except for (1) NDSU v. UM; (2) MSU v. EWU, (3) EWU v. UM, and (4) UM v. MSU. Other than that all teams without Montana in the name will have little to no coverage outside of their respective home towns (and sometimes not even there). Accordingly, it's really pointless to even care about whether SUU can beat USD in Timbukthree. The majority of BSC fans will only care about another team's record when it comes time to play the Griz. So, for the relevant games listed above:

1. Penciling in NDSU
2. EWU wins by 6, but the score is 109-103
3. UM by 3
4. UM by 13

Cats finish 6-5 and Ash wins BSC Coach of the Year
EWU finishes 9-2
UM finishes 10-1

Haha, I suppose I gave him too much credit calling him a "reporter", when really he's just a blogger like the rest of us
 
Colters a genius. He is able to sell subscriptions to a "please pick me" audience with a lack of independent writing. Cha Ching. Why else would he produce such bullshit :lol: A genius I tell you...
 
hm.grwn.grizfan said:
brewskis said:
hm.grwn.grizfan said:
Thing is, I have several buddies who are bobcats fans, and none are sugar coaters or delusional. Most have mixed reviews for Ash, but in general are pretty displeased with the way the last few years have gone in both their bouts with UM and their results in the playoffs. The way they see it, in general, is that in the last 5-6 years MSU has struggled against the worst griz teams in the last 20 years, with exception to the 2011 season in which the griz were legit. That colter seemingly disregards this makes him, well, a reporter with an audience that eats that overhyped bullshit up. Maybe he truly thinks MSU goes 10-1 and that UM has a piss poor season, which would be a reasonable assumption given the turnover in both coaching and players, I suppose. Who knows. All I know, is that we can't get any worse than we have been offensively during the Delaney years, and stitts offense will only improve with time in addition to improving a Gregorak coached defense that has been showing improvement every year. That doesn't bode well for the rational bobcat fan.
I can't comprehend how most cat fans are in favor of Ash. He's been there something like....8 years? Someone correct me if I'm wrong there. They have already gotten everything out of him that they ever will.
Several of said buddies actually wouldn't mind seeing him gone if this season turns out similar to the last few. Thing is, and I'm always going back and forth in debate with em over this, is how do you fire a guy that has a proven record of winning? MSU is not Nebraska. It can't just fire a head coach that is winning, just not winning championships, and expect to bring in someone who can do better IMO. It's a tough call, and I'd want a change of some kind if I were a Bobcats fan too, it's just a tough freaking call. Haha
I'd say that with Ash they are guaranteed a 8-9 win season year in and year out, but really not much more than that. Maybe a first round win in the playoffs on the occasional fortunate year, but looking at his history that would be an improvement. Maybe that's enough for them to be happy, but until they get someone else they will likely always be a very polite team.
 
brewskis said:
hm.grwn.grizfan said:
brewskis said:
hm.grwn.grizfan said:
Thing is, I have several buddies who are bobcats fans, and none are sugar coaters or delusional. Most have mixed reviews for Ash, but in general are pretty displeased with the way the last few years have gone in both their bouts with UM and their results in the playoffs. The way they see it, in general, is that in the last 5-6 years MSU has struggled against the worst griz teams in the last 20 years, with exception to the 2011 season in which the griz were legit. That colter seemingly disregards this makes him, well, a reporter with an audience that eats that overhyped bullshit up. Maybe he truly thinks MSU goes 10-1 and that UM has a piss poor season, which would be a reasonable assumption given the turnover in both coaching and players, I suppose. Who knows. All I know, is that we can't get any worse than we have been offensively during the Delaney years, and stitts offense will only improve with time in addition to improving a Gregorak coached defense that has been showing improvement every year. That doesn't bode well for the rational bobcat fan.
I can't comprehend how most cat fans are in favor of Ash. He's been there something like....8 years? Someone correct me if I'm wrong there. They have already gotten everything out of him that they ever will.
Several of said buddies actually wouldn't mind seeing him gone if this season turns out similar to the last few. Thing is, and I'm always going back and forth in debate with em over this, is how do you fire a guy that has a proven record of winning? MSU is not Nebraska. It can't just fire a head coach that is winning, just not winning championships, and expect to bring in someone who can do better IMO. It's a tough call, and I'd want a change of some kind if I were a Bobcats fan too, it's just a tough freaking call. Haha
I'd say that with Ash they are guaranteed a 8-9 win season year in and year out, but really not much more than that. Maybe a first round win in the playoffs on the occasional fortunate year, but looking at his history that would be an improvement. Maybe that's enough for them to be happy, but until they get someone else they will likely always be a very polite team.
Agreed, but will the school have the balls to fire him? I don't see it.
 
brewskis said:
hm.grwn.grizfan said:
brewskis said:
hm.grwn.grizfan said:
Thing is, I have several buddies who are bobcats fans, and none are sugar coaters or delusional. Most have mixed reviews for Ash, but in general are pretty displeased with the way the last few years have gone in both their bouts with UM and their results in the playoffs. The way they see it, in general, is that in the last 5-6 years MSU has struggled against the worst griz teams in the last 20 years, with exception to the 2011 season in which the griz were legit. That colter seemingly disregards this makes him, well, a reporter with an audience that eats that overhyped bullshit up. Maybe he truly thinks MSU goes 10-1 and that UM has a piss poor season, which would be a reasonable assumption given the turnover in both coaching and players, I suppose. Who knows. All I know, is that we can't get any worse than we have been offensively during the Delaney years, and stitts offense will only improve with time in addition to improving a Gregorak coached defense that has been showing improvement every year. That doesn't bode well for the rational bobcat fan.
I can't comprehend how most cat fans are in favor of Ash. He's been there something like....8 years? Someone correct me if I'm wrong there. They have already gotten everything out of him that they ever will.
Several of said buddies actually wouldn't mind seeing him gone if this season turns out similar to the last few. Thing is, and I'm always going back and forth in debate with em over this, is how do you fire a guy that has a proven record of winning? MSU is not Nebraska. It can't just fire a head coach that is winning, just not winning championships, and expect to bring in someone who can do better IMO. It's a tough call, and I'd want a change of some kind if I were a Bobcats fan too, it's just a tough freaking call. Haha
I'd say that with Ash they are guaranteed a 8-9 win season year in and year out, but really not much more than that. Maybe a first round win in the playoffs on the occasional fortunate year, but looking at his history that would be an improvement. Maybe that's enough for them to be happy, but until they get someone else they will likely always be a very polite team.

I for one am perfectly fine with that. Always guaranteed a winning season under Ash. We win the Big Sky more often than not which is pretty impressive in a 13 team conference. We usually make the playoffs, have made some noise... but fallen short of the overall goal obviously. Yes there have been many factors that have come into play that have prevented us from getting to the chipper, but Ash doesn't make excuses. I think he'll get us there but of course I'm just a fan! I think it's funny how some of you are butthurt over Colter's predictions. You do know that if he has any bias... it's towards being a griz fan right? For the record - he's been pretty damn good with his predictions. My guess is that he's probably slightly off with these. I have the griz going 7-4, bubble team.
 
And an Idaho State win could not only boost the Bengals but could send Montana into a tailspin as the Grizzlies enter a brutal November stretch that could result in a winless final month of the season.


The last time the two teams faced off with such a slanted advantage under center, DeNarius McGhee led MSU past Shay Smithwick-Hann and UM in Missoula in 2012. The only difference this time around is it won’t be a one-score game. The Bobcats should dispose of the Griz

Winless in November? a multi-score beat down in Cat-Griz? Have the tables turned? Is there a changing of the guard? Sure, the Griz have not gone winless in November since 1984, Sure the Ca'ts haven't won by more than 10 points since 1985, and yes that includes 2002, 2003 and 2005 with Travis Lulay at quarterback (didn't they just induct him to their hall of fame?) and 2010 and 2012 with DeNarius McGhee (wasn't he all-world when he played there). To be fair the Cat win in 2012 would have been by more than 1 score except Montana had the vaulted 3 point conversion play to keep it a 1 score 9 point game at 16-7, and the Griz won't have that advantage again.
 
Ron Ash: Record of 65-32 at MSU....17-14 in games played after 11/1, including 2-6 against the Griz.

Yeah...me thinks Colter is smokin' some of that Colorado ganja.
 
Somebody screen shot this article. I usually find Colter a fairly level headed guy but clearly the trip to Utah ran through Colorado or somewhere else with good weed.
 
hm.grwn.grizfan said:
brewskis said:
hm.grwn.grizfan said:
Thing is, I have several buddies who are bobcats fans, and none are sugar coaters or delusional. Most have mixed reviews for Ash, but in general are pretty displeased with the way the last few years have gone in both their bouts with UM and their results in the playoffs. The way they see it, in general, is that in the last 5-6 years MSU has struggled against the worst griz teams in the last 20 years, with exception to the 2011 season in which the griz were legit. That colter seemingly disregards this makes him, well, a reporter with an audience that eats that overhyped bullshit up. Maybe he truly thinks MSU goes 10-1 and that UM has a piss poor season, which would be a reasonable assumption given the turnover in both coaching and players, I suppose. Who knows. All I know, is that we can't get any worse than we have been offensively during the Delaney years, and stitts offense will only improve with time in addition to improving a Gregorak coached defense that has been showing improvement every year. That doesn't bode well for the rational bobcat fan.
I can't comprehend how most cat fans are in favor of Ash. He's been there something like....8 years? Someone correct me if I'm wrong there. They have already gotten everything out of him that they ever will.
Several of said buddies actually wouldn't mind seeing him gone if this season turns out similar to the last few. Thing is, and I'm always going back and forth in debate with em over this, is how do you fire a guy that has a proven record of winning? MSU is not Nebraska. It can't just fire a head coach that is winning, just not winning championships, and expect to bring in someone who can do better IMO. It's a tough call, and I'd want a change of some kind if I were a Bobcats fan too, it's just a tough freaking call. Haha

These buddies should know that his contract ends next June.
 
AS A BOBCAT FAN...

1)I can see the Cats starting the season at 8-1 (loss against either Cal Ploy or EW)

2)8-1 going into November (Two regular season games in November)

3)I have never (and still don't) have faith in picking my beloved CATS in games in November

4)griz will have it figured out by November IF they can stay healthy.

5)CATS "should" be favored in every game this year

6)Season rests on the arm and health of Prukop. I am not convinced that he is "injury prone" like alot of people here think. Fluke knee injury (that could easily linger I guess) kept him out only one game last year.


As for the griz...

1)I can see them losing there first 3 games. (i don't think they will, but that is a very tough start with a new offense)

2) griz should win the 5 after that pretty easy

3)griz last 3 games are against good teams with 2 on the road

4)griz "should" have there Offense clicking by last 3 games
 
KoolMoeDee said:
hm.grwn.grizfan said:
brewskis said:
hm.grwn.grizfan said:
Thing is, I have several buddies who are bobcats fans, and none are sugar coaters or delusional. Most have mixed reviews for Ash, but in general are pretty displeased with the way the last few years have gone in both their bouts with UM and their results in the playoffs. The way they see it, in general, is that in the last 5-6 years MSU has struggled against the worst griz teams in the last 20 years, with exception to the 2011 season in which the griz were legit. That colter seemingly disregards this makes him, well, a reporter with an audience that eats that overhyped bullshit up. Maybe he truly thinks MSU goes 10-1 and that UM has a piss poor season, which would be a reasonable assumption given the turnover in both coaching and players, I suppose. Who knows. All I know, is that we can't get any worse than we have been offensively during the Delaney years, and stitts offense will only improve with time in addition to improving a Gregorak coached defense that has been showing improvement every year. That doesn't bode well for the rational bobcat fan.
I can't comprehend how most cat fans are in favor of Ash. He's been there something like....8 years? Someone correct me if I'm wrong there. They have already gotten everything out of him that they ever will.
Several of said buddies actually wouldn't mind seeing him gone if this season turns out similar to the last few. Thing is, and I'm always going back and forth in debate with em over this, is how do you fire a guy that has a proven record of winning? MSU is not Nebraska. It can't just fire a head coach that is winning, just not winning championships, and expect to bring in someone who can do better IMO. It's a tough call, and I'd want a change of some kind if I were a Bobcats fan too, it's just a tough freaking call. Haha

These buddies should know that his contract ends next June.
Maybe the administration will pull an engstrom and not renew his contract, a fancy way of saying your fired d*##head haha
 
poorgriz said:
I for one am perfectly fine with that. Always guaranteed a winning season under Ash. We win the Big Sky more often than not which is pretty impressive in a 13 team conference. We usually make the playoffs, have made some noise... but fallen short of the overall goal obviously. Yes there have been many factors that have come into play that have prevented us from getting to the chipper, but Ash doesn't make excuses. I think he'll get us there but of course I'm just a fan! I think it's funny how some of you are butthurt over Colter's predictions. You do know that if he has any bias... it's towards being a griz fan right? For the record - he's been pretty damn good with his predictions. My guess is that he's probably slightly off with these. I have the griz going 7-4, bubble team.
Are they the same factors that have prevented you from getting a win in the first round of the playoffs? :lol:
 
brewskis said:
poorgriz said:
I for one am perfectly fine with that. Always guaranteed a winning season under Ash. We win the Big Sky more often than not which is pretty impressive in a 13 team conference. We usually make the playoffs, have made some noise... but fallen short of the overall goal obviously. Yes there have been many factors that have come into play that have prevented us from getting to the chipper, but Ash doesn't make excuses. I think he'll get us there but of course I'm just a fan! I think it's funny how some of you are butthurt over Colter's predictions. You do know that if he has any bias... it's towards being a griz fan right? For the record - he's been pretty damn good with his predictions. My guess is that he's probably slightly off with these. I have the griz going 7-4, bubble team.
Are they the same factors that have prevented you from getting a win in the first round of the playoffs? :lol:

We have made the quarter finals 2 of the last 3 playoff appearances
 
I have been envious of Colter's reporting for years now. He does a fantastic job of covering the cats. We are finally getting much better coverage now with Kyle and AJ, but this is the one area we lag behind them. Colter has the balls to express his opinion and I have always respected him for that and he understands the game of football better than any beat reporter that I have witnessed. I will say Colter is not infallible. He has made several public mistakes over the years, including dissing his employer - the Bozeman Chronilcle - online and getting fired, negatively commenting online about a high school prospect that later commited suicide, and he spent a great deal of time posting here while simultaneously pimping his brother that played safety for the Griz and badmouthing A player in the Griz secondary.

I can see why Colter made his guess the way he did this year, but I will just disagree. The Griz have a very difficult schedule and a new coach, offense and qb. Lots to be worried about but I also think the team has a lot to be excited about. Deep down Colter is a Griz fan, but he must also pander to his audience. The cats potentially have a lot to be excited about as well with their offense. I don't think we need to attack him because of his opinion, though.
 
SACCAT66 said:
AS A BOBCAT FAN...

1)I can see the Cats starting the season at 8-1 (loss against either Cal Ploy or EW)

2)8-1 going into November (Two regular season games in November)

3)I have never (and still don't) have faith in picking my beloved CATS in games in November

4)griz will have it figured out by November IF they can stay healthy.

5)CATS "should" be favored in every game this year

6)Season rests on the arm and health of Prukop. I am not convinced that he is "injury prone" like alot of people here think. Fluke knee injury (that could easily linger I guess) kept him out only one game last year.


As for the griz...

1)I can see them losing there first 3 games. (i don't think they will, but that is a very tough start with a new offense)

2) griz should win the 5 after that pretty easy

3)griz last 3 games are against good teams with 2 on the road

4)griz "should" have there Offense clicking by last 3 games
THIS "seems" to be a RATIONAL "cat" fan. haha.
But seriously, a pretty fair assessment of UM's reasonable expectations. I, however, like that stitt has publicly acknowledged and embraced a fan base that always has unreasonable expectations (e.g. "Win every game" in his word in regard to expectations of his team). Bring on this season!!
 
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