Coach's show?

[garizzalies]

75, I'm no insider and I've never claimed to be one. You and PR have that stawman approach down tight, tho. You don't need to be an insider to read the writing on the wall

The fact that you still claim the "problem did not exist" shows how delusional you are. Like I said, "how can anyone deny it at this point?" The evidence is staggering: not only is TG long gone, but the coach has explained the situation in print and now on tv, too. Yet you and PR want to bury your heads in the sand without a lick of evidence to support your position that the problem did not exist.

And it's not coach speak. It was an honest and necessary explanation to the biggest question on Griz nation's mind. But I guess you would have to actually watch the game to understand that. Thus, look at how many threads popped up asking why the O was so conservative. Well, Stitt answered that question--no need to press when the D does its job

 

[PlayerRep]

Response to prior post, in brackets:

Does anyone think that the defense played less hard because they were frustrated, whether they expressed their frustration or not. I don't.last year? Maybe. Something was obviously wrong [I just don't agree with "maybe". As 75 pointed out, anything that was wrong last year was likely not what you are now saying may have been the big problem.]

Does anyone think the offense played less hard because the defense expressed their frustration to them? I don't. same as above [Same as above for me too.]

Does anyone think it's the job of the head coach to keep things in line between the offense and defense? I do. The head coach sets up the meetings, whether O and D separate, or alone. The head coach is the one responsible for doing this. I talked to a former UM head coach about this subject, as well as several former players, and they thought it was the job of the head coach to oversee and handle any issues like this.sure that's why he shit-canned TG [You don't know what the discussions were between Stitt and Gregorak.]

Does anyone think that a key to the UNI game was the defense being nice to the offense during the game, or that that defense being nice to the offense during the game helped the offense play better (or helped the defense play better)? I don't. maybe not during the game but the improvement in team unity is a big theme this year [I agree that it wasn't a major factor in the game. Yes, team unity is a big theme, and I'm all for team unity, but there's alot more to team unity than this factor. It's also how the coaches treat players, including former players. It's what the players think of the coaches, including the head coach. It's about how much players actually like or get along with other players, including new players. Others too.]

Does anyone think that when Stitt says stuff about TG, or that might be interpreted at being about TG, he offends a bunch of people and donors/supporters who like TG and continue to be friends with him--and that causes those donors/supporters not to warm up to Stitt? I do. who gives a shit [Anyone who wants to raise money for Griz football certainly cares about this. If potential bigger donors and supporters aren't happy, they won't donate as much. If potential donors are not excited about the AD or the head coach or whatever, then it's harder for them to approach people for donations. That's both true, but also common sense.]

 

[PlayerRep]

Does anyone think that the defense played less hard because they were frustrated, whether they expressed their frustration or not. I don't.last year? Maybe. Something was obviously wrong

Does anyone think the offense played less hard because the defense expressed their frustration to them? I don't. same as above

Does anyone think that a key to the UNI game was the defense being nice to the offense during the game, or that that defense being nice to the offense during the game helped the offense play better (or helped the defense play better)? I don't. maybe not during the game but the improvement in team unity is a big theme this year

Does anyone think that when Stitt says stuff about TG, or that might be interpreted at being about TG, he offends a bunch of people and donors/supporters who like TG and continue to be friends with him--and that causes those donors/supporters not to warm up to Stitt? I do. who gives a shit

Something was "obviously wrong" last year?

And "garizzlies" never mentioned a word about it until now? What was the big secret, "insider?" And who is your source?

Now, all of a sudden, people always avowing they are "close to the program" just discovered this huge dissension last year, that Griz had massive problems because the defense was criticizing the offense, or as Havgriz tried to imply, that players were complaining ("bitching") directly to Stitt about the offense not scoring points and leaving it to the defense to win games?

Why Stitt constantly has to feed this innuendo is beyond me; but for all the geniuses on egriz who missed it last year, and just recently discovered it just because Stitt said so, I'd have to note that 1) none of the geniuses who are so plugged in (the same ones oddly enough who instantly rushed to their keyboards claiming insider status to assert that Daum's departure had NOTHING TO DO with the football program or the team) noticed a thing about it, and 2) players seemed to be unaware of it.

TG is gone. Stitt keeps resurrecting a problem that nobody was aware of, and there is no good reason to do so. Even if it did exist, why keep bringing it up? The only problem is, it didn't exist. So the real question is, why keep bringing up a non-existent problem that is, regardless of your position on it, IN THE PAST?

I do question his judgment on that. I fully understand that there are several posters who will justify anything Stitt says or does, and I am sure they will have a good one for that. But, from a coaching standpoint all those kinds of remarks do is antagonize players (current and former) who know better, antagonize donors and supporters who did like TG (and they were many), and cause unnecessary controversy -- unnecessary primarily because it doesn't matter now. Coaches design for the future, not continually reargue the past. It's not just bad form, it is simply pointless.

And how in the hell does a coach claim that Griz now win games because the Defense learned to shut up and so this keeps the offense off the field where they will (as he specifically said) lose the ball and the game? Anybody that gets past that piece of authentic frontier gibberish deserves an egriz straitjacket. I fully understand the perils of speaking live without a script, but jayzus, don't then try and pretend that made any sense.

I see no point in Stitt's continuing commentary on the issue except self-promotion. As I noted, "unnecessary and small."

I pretty much agree.

What was wrong last year was that the offense and qb were very inconsistent. Sometimes very good; sometimes very bad. And too often couldn't control the ball or score in the second half. While the defense often kept the team in games, the defense was bad on some occasions and gave up too many big plays during much of the season. The team didn't win some games that it should have won, against lesser teams or when the team seemed to be in control of the game. The big NDSU win at the outset offset the unfortunate losses to some extent. And, in my view, some offensive decisions to go for it on 4th down and some seemingly odd play-calling at critical times, contributed to the problem and some losses, but I still think the team got lucky after the wrong decisions at the end. Note that UM hasn't gone for it on 4th down, outside of say the 40, this season. That puts alot less pressure on the defense, and is less discouraging to a defense.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Seriously, where do people come up with some of this shit!

 

[garizzalies]

Does anyone (other than PR/75) miss Traitorak? I don't

Does anyone think Stitt misses Traitorak? I don't

Does anyone ever want to sit back in a 4-3 base all game long again? I don't

Does any one want to have the bend-over-and-take-it defense again? I don't

Does anyone think Traitorak caused friction between the D and O last year? I do and I don't see how anyone can deny it at this point.

Although he may not have "encouraged it," does anyone think TG went out of his way to discourage it? I don't

Does anyone think the friction/disunity or whatever the f*** you wanna call it, may have contributed to the outcome of some game(s)? I do. I think it must have been bad enough that TG was sent packin and we're still hearing about it a year later.

Does anyone really still wonder why the team and not just the D looks improved this year? I don't

Why don't you answer these questions? ok

Does anyone think that the defense played less hard because they were frustrated, whether they expressed their frustration or not. I don't.last year? Maybe. Something was obviously wrong

Does anyone think the offense played less hard because the defense expressed their frustration to them? I don't. same as above

Does anyone think it's the job of the head coach to keep things in line between the offense and defense? I do. The head coach sets up the meetings, whether O and D separate, or alone. The head coach is the one responsible for doing this. I talked to a former UM head coach about this subject, as well as several former players, and they thought it was the job of the head coach to oversee and handle any issues like this.sure that's why he shit-canned TG

Does anyone think that a key to the UNI game was the defense being nice to the offense during the game, or that that defense being nice to the offense during the game helped the offense play better (or helped the defense play better)? I don't. maybe not during the game but the improvement in team unity is a big theme this year

Does anyone think that when Stitt says stuff about TG, or that might be interpreted at being about TG, he offends a bunch of people and donors/supporters who like TG and continue to be friends with him--and that causes those donors/supporters not to warm up to Stitt? I do. who gives a shit

Do I like Stitt? Yes. same

Do I think Stitt will succeed at UM? Yes, or probably yes.same

On a different subject, does anyone know why the Griz football auction turnout and amount raised was down so much this year?

same
now your turn

See response below.

Are you going to answer my set of questions?

 

[UMGriz75]

The fact that you still claim the "problem did not exist" shows how delusional you are. Like I said, "how can anyone deny it at this point?"

Nobody, not even the players, knew about this problem last year. Now, "how can anyone deny it?"

That's delusional.

The fact is, real or not, trying to burnish your own image by constantly bringing up the past, is simply not appropriate. Look forward. That's where your reputation will be earned, not fabricated.

Use press conferences and coach shows to promote the positive, not denigrate the past.

 

[garizzalies]

The fact that you still claim the "problem did not exist" shows how delusional you are. Like I said, "how can anyone deny it at this point?"

Nobody, not even the players, knew about this problem last year. Now, "how can anyone deny it?"

That's delusional.

The fact is, real or not, trying to burnish your own image by constantly bringing up the past, is simply not appropriate. Look forward. That's where your reputation will be earned, not fabricated.

Use press conferences and coach shows to promote the positive, not denigrate the past.

So it seems like you are at least admitting there was a problem last year. That's a good first step. Now, how can you say nobody knew of the problem last year? Fans might not have known the specifics but there was at least some evidence, including Semore's increased role later in the season, TG getting shit-canned, and now all the comments by the coaches about it in the media. What evidence do you have?

 

[mcg]

Myself, I'm really looking forward to watching this weeks Gruzzlies Sports Report tomorrow afternoon on Altitude. Should be interesting.

 

[CV Griz Fan]

The fact that you still claim the "problem did not exist" shows how delusional you are. Like I said, "how can anyone deny it at this point?"

Nobody, not even the players, knew about this problem last year. Now, "how can anyone deny it?"

That's delusional.

The fact is, real or not, trying to burnish your own image by constantly bringing up the past, is simply not appropriate. Look forward. That's where your reputation will be earned, not fabricated.

Use press conferences and coach shows to promote the positive, not denigrate the past.

So it seems like you are at least admitting there was a problem last year. That's a good first step. Now, how can you say nobody knew of the problem last year? Fans might not have known the specifics but there was at least some evidence, including Semore's increased role later in the season, TG getting shit-canned, and now all the comments by the coaches about it in the media. What evidence do you have?

Good response garizz.... I agree with 75 that Stitt should not speak about last year's team divisions. But to deny it occurred or that nobody new about it is a little much. From earlier egriz posts, TG was pretty defiant to Stitt's authority behind his back at defensive meetings. That could be BS "but where there is smoke, there is fire"....

 

[EverettGriz]

Myself, I'm really looking forward to watching this weeks Gruzzlies Sports Report tomorrow afternoon on Altitude. Should be interesting.

There's ol', mcg, trying to derail threads again. Sheesh. Some people....

 

[UMGriz75]

The fact that you still claim the "problem did not exist" shows how delusional you are. Like I said, "how can anyone deny it at this point?"

Nobody, not even the players, knew about this problem last year. Now, "how can anyone deny it?"

That's delusional.

The fact is, real or not, trying to burnish your own image by constantly bringing up the past, is simply not appropriate. Look forward. That's where your reputation will be earned, not fabricated.

Use press conferences and coach shows to promote the positive, not denigrate the past.

So it seems like you are at least admitting there was a problem last year.

Going from something that nobody seemed to know anything about to now its old news that everyone knows is a fairly typical rewrite of history.

The source for all of this is ... Bob Stitt. This year. Last year, no one seemed to notice. This year, it has now become the source for a team divisiveness that crippled the Griz last year (that the team seemed unaware of), the reason "TG was sidelined," and the ultimate reason for him being "shit-canned."

Stitt also claims that because he has a silent Defense now, the Griz are damned lucky that the offense doesn't have to take the field and lose the ball. Because the Defensive players aren't "bitching" to him all the time about the offense not scoring points. It apparently just wore him out last year. Problem solved. :roll:

Claiming to have solved a problem that didn't exist is just not useful in my coaching handbook. You really, really want to see it differently, so be it.

 

[UMGriz75]

... and now all the comments by the coaches about it in the media.

"All the comments by the coaches?"

Aside from Stitt, who?

And why is Stitt making such a big deal about it? And why so just after our offense had yet another "0" production second half? What's the point?

 

[garizzalies]

As noted several times already, "the point" was to answer the ground swell of questions from Griz nation re why the O was so conservative vs UNI. It's clear you don't actually watch the games but I assumed you read posts.

 

[garizzalies]

Why don't you answer these questions? ok

Does anyone think that the defense played less hard because they were frustrated, whether they expressed their frustration or not. I don't.last year? Maybe. Something was obviously wrong

Does anyone think the offense played less hard because the defense expressed their frustration to them? I don't. same as above

Does anyone think it's the job of the head coach to keep things in line between the offense and defense? I do. The head coach sets up the meetings, whether O and D separate, or alone. The head coach is the one responsible for doing this. I talked to a former UM head coach about this subject, as well as several former players, and they thought it was the job of the head coach to oversee and handle any issues like this.sure that's why he shit-canned TG

Does anyone think that a key to the UNI game was the defense being nice to the offense during the game, or that that defense being nice to the offense during the game helped the offense play better (or helped the defense play better)? I don't. maybe not during the game but the improvement in team unity is a big theme this year

Does anyone think that when Stitt says stuff about TG, or that might be interpreted at being about TG, he offends a bunch of people and donors/supporters who like TG and continue to be friends with him--and that causes those donors/supporters not to warm up to Stitt? I do. who gives a shit

Do I like Stitt? Yes. same

Do I think Stitt will succeed at UM? Yes, or probably yes.same

On a different subject, does anyone know why the Griz football auction turnout and amount raised was down so much this year?

same
now your turn

See response below.

Are you going to answer my set of questions?

Bueller?....Bueller?.....Bueller?...
I answered your questions but you won't answer mine?
Your silence is deafening

 

[Mousegriz]

I want to know more about the auction results.......and why the basketball "traditions" dinner got cancelled. I think it' s because too many high rollers like PR and 75 would rather get beaten up on an internet blog page than actually buy auction items.......and attend basketball dinners.

 

[UMGriz75]

As noted several times already, "the point" was to answer the ground swell of questions from Griz nation re why the O was so conservative vs UNI.

Because "last year ...?" WTF does "last year" have to do with it?

If "the O was conservative on Saturday because last year the team was divided" is really an "answer" then Stitt has a problem. Not just "small" and "unnecessary" but "incoherent."

I don't think your convolutions trying to 'splain are doing much 'splainin. Rather, drilling a hole.

 

[Grizzly Oredigger]

I was kind of listening and not watching, but I think Coach Stitt also said there are more way than 2 worlds - there is Earth, Earth2, Smirth, and Florida

Oh it feels so good to laugh...thank you

 

[AZGrizFan]

You are a sad little man. Last week, I pointed to the fact that Stitt will not have Brady throw to the middle, and gave my reasons why. It's pretty obvious to me. You had no comment on an actual strategy, did you? Stitt confirmed my points exactly this week. Think that was a coincidence? Answer the question.

So, YOU'RE Stitt? :? :?

 

[garizzalies]

As noted several times already, "the point" was to answer the ground swell of questions from Griz nation re why the O was so conservative vs UNI.

Because "last year ...?" WTF does "last year" have to do with it?

If "the O was conservative on Saturday because last year the team was divided" is really an "answer" then Stitt has a problem. Not just "small" and "unnecessary" but "incoherent."

I don't think your convolutions trying to 'splain are doing much 'splainin. Rather, drilling a hole.

Holy shit. You seem somewhat educated, but really weird, and probably socially odd as fuck. When I read your posts, I can't help but think of that Simpsons episode where Homer gets bonked on the head and starts wearing a monocle and talking all fancy and people think he's actually intelligent, at least on the surface (it didn't last).
So, I'll try to keep this simple (again!). There is a dramatic change from last year to this year and not just on the D. This change is most obvious in the attitudes of the players, and all the talk from multiple coaches about team unity. It seems to be a theme this year. For instance, have you read the other thread about how our players seem to play with more class this year? And the stupid Jolly Roger flag is gone? Well, the change is not limited to attitude or even the D; it has spilled over into the offensive game planning and actual strategy on game day. I don't believe that was the case last year, but it seems to be the case at least so far this year

 

[AllWeatherFan]

My good man, I have no idea to which episode you are referring.