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[Ursa Major]

So 75, honest football question, do you think the defensive players should go to the offensive coordinator and to their teammates and bitch at them for not scoring points? Leave Ty out of the discussion, Stitt said " The DEFENSE is not asking why they're not scoring points." So my question is, do you think defensive PLAYERS should criticize their own teammates, the guys who wear the exact same name on the front of their jersey as they do?

Personally, I don't care if one side of the ball gets on the other side of the ball a bit. It happens all the time. If there is too much of it, or there are too many players doing it, or if happens to quickly, then it is not a good thing.

So, maybe they "shouldn't" but they do. Does anyone think defensive players should tackle offensive players very hard, or too hard, for the situation in practice. Perhaps they shouldn't, but they sure as heck do.

Does anyone think TG or any DC encouraged or encourages the defensive players to get on the offense? I don't.

Does anyone think that defensive players were frustrated last year, when the offense went 3 and out over and over and didn't score points? Or when Stitt went for it on 4th down on the wrong half of the field and didn't make it? I think they would eventually get frustrated. Do you think comments like that hurt the feelings of the offensive players? I don't.

Does anyone think that the defense played less hard because they were frustrated, whether they expressed their frustration or not. I don't.

Does anyone think the offense played less hard because the defense expressed their frustration to them? I don't.

Does anyone think it's the job of the head coach to keep things in line between the offense and defense? I do. The head coach sets up the meetings, whether O and D separate, or alone. The head coach is the one responsible for doing this. I talked to a former UM head coach about this subject, as well as several former players, and they thought it was the job of the head coach to oversee and handle any issues like this.

Does anyone think that a lot of posters want to interpret lots of Stitt comments about the defense, or last season, as digs against TG? I do.

Does anyone think that egriz has a lot of posters who think they can read people's minds and know how to read between the lines? I do. However, I don't think those posters know what they talking about.

Week 2:

 

[garizzalies]

.. "the fact that our D just goes out and does their job now and doesn't talk about 'how come you're not scoring points?' allows us to not press on offense and turn the ball over which would have cost us the game."

Yes, it was an unnecessary and small remark.

The f*** it was. It was the key to the entire game, and likely the rest of this season. It was a critical explanation for the win. It was candid and honest. You of all people should appreciate it, particularly when you have bashed Stitt for not being more transparent with his media conferences. :roll:

It's an odd remark, for sure. Translated from coach-speak to English: "Thank God our defense doesn't talk to anyone anymore which for some reason allows us not to put our offense on the field because we would surely have turned the ball over and lost. If the defense did talk to people, we would have been forced to put our offense on the field. The results would have been fatal."

That is, at least, an interesting "key to the entire game." It may indeed have been candid, but does Stitt really believe that? Just an odd thing to say.

No interpretation needed; he could not have been clearer if he spelled it out--oh wait--he did spell it out in the newspaper not long ago. So your interpretation just shows your agenda
How long are you and Ace going to carry the Traitorak torch? Will you ever drop it? I saw another post from you last week-ish about Simis vs the F'hawks again so I guess it's not your guys' MO to drop things (unless it's soap)

 

[PlayerRep]

Yes, it was an unnecessary and small remark.

The f*** it was. It was the key to the entire game, and likely the rest of this season. It was a critical explanation for the win. It was candid and honest. You of all people should appreciate it, particularly when you have bashed Stitt for not being more transparent with his media conferences. :roll:

It's an odd remark, for sure. Translated from coach-speak to English: "Thank God our defense doesn't talk to anyone anymore which for some reason allows us not to put our offense on the field because we would surely have turned the ball over and lost. If the defense did talk to people, we would have been forced to put our offense on the field. The results would have been fatal."

That is, at least, an interesting "key to the entire game." It may indeed have been candid, but does Stitt really believe that? Just an odd thing to say.

No interpretation needed; he could not have been clearer if he spelled it out--oh wait--he did spell it out in the newspaper not long ago. So your interpretation just shows your agenda
How long are you and Ace going to carry the Traitorak torch? Will you ever drop it? I saw another post from you last week-ish about Simis vs the F'hawks again so I guess it's not your guys' MO to drop things (unless it's soap)

I like Stitt, but I can't believe he, or any coach, truly would say that a defense, or defensive player, who asks the offensive, or an offensive player, why they aren't scoring, causes the offense to go out and press, and turn over the ball, is perhaps the weakest excuse I have ever heard for an offense turning over the ball or doing poorly. You've got to be kidding me.

What about good defense or good plays by the other team? What about bad throws by the qb? What about wrong routes by receivers? What about poor blocking by the o-line or the backs? What about poor reads or bad play calls by the qb? What about bad play calls by the coaches? What about bad game planning by the coaches?

As I said, you've got to be kidding me. Each of the things I mentioned are much more likely to cause a turnover than defensive guys complaining to the offensive guys.

 

[brewskis]

You can just tell how upset 75 is about winning that game. I love it.


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[casewinter13]

So 75, honest football question, do you think the defensive players should go to the offensive coordinator and to their teammates and bitch at them for not scoring points? Leave Ty out of the discussion, Stitt said " The DEFENSE is not asking why they're not scoring points." So my question is, do you think defensive PLAYERS should criticize their own teammates, the guys who wear the exact same name on the front of their jersey as they do?

Personally, I don't care if one side of the ball gets on the other side of the ball a bit. It happens all the time. If there is too much of it, or there are too many players doing it, or if happens to quickly, then it is not a good thing.

So, maybe they "shouldn't" but they do. Does anyone think defensive players should tackle offensive players very hard, or too hard, for the situation in practice. Perhaps they shouldn't, but they sure as heck do.

Does anyone think TG or any DC encouraged or encourages the defensive players to get on the offense? I don't.

Does anyone think that defensive players were frustrated last year, when the offense went 3 and out over and over and didn't score points? Or when Stitt went for it on 4th down on the wrong half of the field and didn't make it? I think they would eventually get frustrated. Do you think comments like that hurt the feelings of the offensive players? I don't.

Does anyone think that the defense played less hard because they were frustrated, whether they expressed their frustration or not. I don't.

Does anyone think the offense played less hard because the defense expressed their frustration to them? I don't.

Does anyone think it's the job of the head coach to keep things in line between the offense and defense? I do. The head coach sets up the meetings, whether O and D separate, or alone. The head coach is the one responsible for doing this. I talked to a former UM head coach about this subject, as well as several former players, and they thought it was the job of the head coach to oversee and handle any issues like this.

Does anyone think that a lot of posters want to interpret lots of Stitt comments about the defense, or last season, as digs against TG? I do.

Does anyone think that egriz has a lot of posters who think they can read people's minds and know how to read between the lines? I do. However, I don't think those posters know what they talking about.

Does anybody else think if player rep jams anymore straw men into this post, egriz is in serious trouble of burning to the ground should it be exposed to any ignition source? I do

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[garizzalies]

Does anyone (other than PR/75) miss Traitorak? I don't

Does anyone think Stitt misses Traitorak? I don't

Does anyone ever want to sit back in a 4-3 base all game long again? I don't

Does any one want to have the bend-over-and-take-it defense again? I don't

Does anyone think Traitorak caused friction between the D and O last year? I do and I don't see how anyone can deny it at this point.

Although he may not have "encouraged it," does anyone think TG went out of his way to discourage it? I don't

Does anyone think the friction/disunity or whatever the fuck you wanna call it, may have contributed to the outcome of some game(s)? I do. I think it must have been bad enough that TG was sent packin and we're still hearing about it a year later.

Does anyone really still wonder why the team and not just the D looks improved this year? I don't

 

[UMGriz75]

No interpretation needed; he could not have been clearer if he spelled it out--oh wait--he did spell it out in the newspaper not long ago. So your interpretation just shows your agenda
How long are you and Ace going to carry the Traitorak torch? Will you ever drop it? I saw another post from you last week-ish about Simis vs the F'hawks again so I guess it's not your guys' MO to drop things (unless it's soap)

You're drinking again.

 

[UMGriz75]

Defensive players are not allowed to speak. Problem solved. Whatever that gibberish current meme is supposed to mean.

 

[UMGriz75]

You can just tell how upset 75 is about winning that game. I love it.

Very clever, not just a red herring, but a change of the subject to say something I did not say or even imply. Some of you have such weak snowflake agendas, you cannot function on egriz without fabricating whole comments and agendas for others. If you don't want to discuss football, joint a garden club.

 

[brewskis]

You can just tell how upset 75 is about winning that game. I love it.

Very clever, not just a red herring, but a change of the subject to say something I did not say or even imply. Some of you have such weak snowflake agendas, you cannot function on egriz without fabricating whole comments and agendas for others. If you don't want to discuss football, joint a garden club.

Haha when have you ever discussed football??? You are never seen discussing players, strategy, predictions, or anything related to the game!!! The ONLY time you choose to chime in is where you dissect interviews and articles and proceed to throw thinly-veiled insults at our head coach haha do you even watch on Saturdays or do you just wait for the Sunday edition of the Missoulian to come out?


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[UMGriz75]

You can just tell how upset 75 is about winning that game. I love it.

Very clever, not just a red herring, but a change of the subject to say something I did not say or even imply. Some of you have such weak snowflake agendas, you cannot function on egriz without fabricating whole comments and agendas for others. If you don't want to discuss football, joint a garden club.

Haha when have you ever discussed football??? You are never seen discussing players, strategy, predictions, or anything related to the game!!!

You are a sad little man. Last week, I pointed to the fact that Stitt will not have Brady throw to the middle, and gave my reasons why. It's pretty obvious to me. You had no comment on an actual strategy, did you? Stitt confirmed my points exactly this week. Think that was a coincidence? Answer the question.

This week, Stitt uttered some gibberish at a press conference that he had solved a "problem" between offensive and defensive. Coaches don't need to keep trying to open old wounds that likely didn't exist in the first place. Then, he uttered the incomprehensible assessment that "thanks to the defense keeping quiet, it kept our offense off the field where we would have had a turnover and lost the game." To you, that is profound. To me, it is coach-speak gone wild. I can tell you have never coached. OK, prove us all wrong. Have you? Or is this complete BS from you?

You've become simply a sycophant. You're good at it. I'm still here to discuss coaching and football. You don't like it. Then ignore it and stop being a delicate petunia wearing the flowered dress of a cheerleader who has no idea what is happening on the field. You only admire the fact that they are "big guys doing something physical."

Thanks for your continuing astute assessments.

 

[garizzalies]

You can just tell how upset 75 is about winning that game. I love it.

Very clever, not just a red herring, but a change of the subject to say something I did not say or even imply. Some of you have such weak snowflake agendas, you cannot function on egriz without fabricating whole comments and agendas for others. If you don't want to discuss football, joint a garden club.

Haha when have you ever discussed football??? You are never seen discussing players, strategy, predictions, or anything related to the game!!! The ONLY time you choose to chime in is where you dissect interviews and articles and proceed to throw thinly-veiled insults at our head coach haha do you even watch on Saturdays or do you just wait for the Sunday edition of the Missoulian to come out?


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I think you're right--in one post a few days ago he admitted he did not even see the game yet but that didn't stop him

 

[UMGriz75]

I think you're right--in one post a few days ago he admitted he did not even see the game yet but that didn't stop him

Thank you for paying such close attention to my posts. I am flattered. A little more honest attention to detail and you would also note on this thread I was discussing a press conference and not the game. Or would that require "honest attention to detail?"

 

[EverettGriz]

Yikes. I thought slavery had been abolished, but perhaps I was mistaken as both 75 and pr were OWNED in this thread.

 

[UMGriz75]

Yikes. I thought slavery had been abolished, but perhaps I was mistaken as both 75 and pr were OWNED in this thread.

Irony alert. Spoken like a true slave.

 

[PlayerRep]

Yikes. I thought slavery had been abolished, but perhaps I was mistaken as both 75 and pr were OWNED in this thread.

Proving once again that you don't have a clue about the game of football.

 

[PlayerRep]

Does anyone (other than PR/75) miss Traitorak? I don't

Does anyone think Stitt misses Traitorak? I don't

Does anyone ever want to sit back in a 4-3 base all game long again? I don't

Does any one want to have the bend-over-and-take-it defense again? I don't

Does anyone think Traitorak caused friction between the D and O last year? I do and I don't see how anyone can deny it at this point.

Although he may not have "encouraged it," does anyone think TG went out of his way to discourage it? I don't

Does anyone think the friction/disunity or whatever the f*** you wanna call it, may have contributed to the outcome of some game(s)? I do. I think it must have been bad enough that TG was sent packin and we're still hearing about it a year later.

Does anyone really still wonder why the team and not just the D looks improved this year? I don't

Why don't you answer these questions?

Does anyone think that the defense played less hard because they were frustrated, whether they expressed their frustration or not. I don't.

Does anyone think the offense played less hard because the defense expressed their frustration to them? I don't.

Does anyone think it's the job of the head coach to keep things in line between the offense and defense? I do. The head coach sets up the meetings, whether O and D separate, or alone. The head coach is the one responsible for doing this. I talked to a former UM head coach about this subject, as well as several former players, and they thought it was the job of the head coach to oversee and handle any issues like this.

Does anyone think that a key to the UNI game was the defense being nice to the offense during the game, or that that defense being nice to the offense during the game helped the offense play better (or helped the defense play better)? I don't.

Does anyone think that when Stitt says stuff about TG, or that might be interpreted at being about TG, he offends a bunch of people and donors/supporters who like TG and continue to be friends with him--and that causes those donors/supporters not to warm up to Stitt? I do.

Do I like Stitt? Yes.

Do I think Stitt will succeed at UM? Yes, or probably yes.

On a different subject, does anyone know why the Griz football auction turnout and amount raised was down so much this year?

 

[garizzalies]

Does anyone (other than PR/75) miss Traitorak? I don't

Does anyone think Stitt misses Traitorak? I don't

Does anyone ever want to sit back in a 4-3 base all game long again? I don't

Does any one want to have the bend-over-and-take-it defense again? I don't

Does anyone think Traitorak caused friction between the D and O last year? I do and I don't see how anyone can deny it at this point.

Although he may not have "encouraged it," does anyone think TG went out of his way to discourage it? I don't

Does anyone think the friction/disunity or whatever the f*** you wanna call it, may have contributed to the outcome of some game(s)? I do. I think it must have been bad enough that TG was sent packin and we're still hearing about it a year later.

Does anyone really still wonder why the team and not just the D looks improved this year? I don't

Why don't you answer these questions? ok

Does anyone think that the defense played less hard because they were frustrated, whether they expressed their frustration or not. I don't.last year? Maybe. Something was obviously wrong

Does anyone think the offense played less hard because the defense expressed their frustration to them? I don't. same as above

Does anyone think it's the job of the head coach to keep things in line between the offense and defense? I do. The head coach sets up the meetings, whether O and D separate, or alone. The head coach is the one responsible for doing this. I talked to a former UM head coach about this subject, as well as several former players, and they thought it was the job of the head coach to oversee and handle any issues like this.sure that's why he shit-canned TG

Does anyone think that a key to the UNI game was the defense being nice to the offense during the game, or that that defense being nice to the offense during the game helped the offense play better (or helped the defense play better)? I don't. maybe not during the game but the improvement in team unity is a big theme this year

Does anyone think that when Stitt says stuff about TG, or that might be interpreted at being about TG, he offends a bunch of people and donors/supporters who like TG and continue to be friends with him--and that causes those donors/supporters not to warm up to Stitt? I do. who gives a shit

Do I like Stitt? Yes. same

Do I think Stitt will succeed at UM? Yes, or probably yes.same

On a different subject, does anyone know why the Griz football auction turnout and amount raised was down so much this year?

same
now your turn

 

[UMGriz75]

Does anyone think that the defense played less hard because they were frustrated, whether they expressed their frustration or not. I don't.last year? Maybe. Something was obviously wrong

Does anyone think the offense played less hard because the defense expressed their frustration to them? I don't. same as above

Does anyone think that a key to the UNI game was the defense being nice to the offense during the game, or that that defense being nice to the offense during the game helped the offense play better (or helped the defense play better)? I don't. maybe not during the game but the improvement in team unity is a big theme this year

Does anyone think that when Stitt says stuff about TG, or that might be interpreted at being about TG, he offends a bunch of people and donors/supporters who like TG and continue to be friends with him--and that causes those donors/supporters not to warm up to Stitt? I do. who gives a shit

Something was "obviously wrong" last year?

And "garizzlies" never mentioned a word about it until now? What was the big secret, "insider?" And who is your source?

Now, all of a sudden, people always avowing they are "close to the program" just discovered this huge dissension last year, that Griz had massive problems because the defense was criticizing the offense, or as Havgriz tried to imply, that players were complaining ("bitching") directly to Stitt about the offense not scoring points and leaving it to the defense to win games?

Why Stitt constantly has to feed this innuendo is beyond me; but for all the geniuses on egriz who missed it last year, and just recently discovered it just because Stitt said so, I'd have to note that 1) none of the geniuses who are so plugged in (the same ones oddly enough who instantly rushed to their keyboards claiming insider status to assert that Daum's departure had NOTHING TO DO with the football program or the team) noticed a thing about it, and 2) players seemed to be unaware of it.

TG is gone. Stitt keeps resurrecting a problem that nobody was aware of, and there is no good reason to do so. Even if it did exist, why keep bringing it up? The only problem is, it didn't exist. So the real question is, why keep bringing up a non-existent problem that is, regardless of your position on it, IN THE PAST?

I do question his judgment on that. I fully understand that there are several posters who will justify anything Stitt says or does, and I am sure they will have a good one for that. But, from a coaching standpoint all those kinds of remarks do is antagonize players (current and former) who know better, antagonize donors and supporters who did like TG (and they were many), and cause unnecessary controversy -- unnecessary primarily because it doesn't matter now. Coaches design for the future, not continually reargue the past. It's not just bad form, it is simply pointless.

And how in the hell does a coach claim that Griz now win games because the Defense learned to shut up and so this keeps the offense off the field where they will (as he specifically said) lose the ball and the game? Anybody that gets past that piece of authentic frontier gibberish deserves an egriz straitjacket. I fully understand the perils of speaking live without a script, but jayzus, don't then try and pretend that made any sense.

I see no point in Stitt's continuing commentary on the issue except self-promotion. As I noted, "unnecessary and small."

 

[PlayerRep]

Does anyone (other than PR/75) miss Traitorak? I don't

Does anyone think Stitt misses Traitorak? I don't

Does anyone ever want to sit back in a 4-3 base all game long again? I don't

Does any one want to have the bend-over-and-take-it defense again? I don't

Does anyone think Traitorak caused friction between the D and O last year? I do and I don't see how anyone can deny it at this point.

Although he may not have "encouraged it," does anyone think TG went out of his way to discourage it? I don't

Does anyone think the friction/disunity or whatever the f*** you wanna call it, may have contributed to the outcome of some game(s)? I do. I think it must have been bad enough that TG was sent packin and we're still hearing about it a year later.

Does anyone really still wonder why the team and not just the D looks improved this year? I don't

Why don't you answer these questions? ok

Does anyone think that the defense played less hard because they were frustrated, whether they expressed their frustration or not. I don't.last year? Maybe. Something was obviously wrong

Does anyone think the offense played less hard because the defense expressed their frustration to them? I don't. same as above

Does anyone think it's the job of the head coach to keep things in line between the offense and defense? I do. The head coach sets up the meetings, whether O and D separate, or alone. The head coach is the one responsible for doing this. I talked to a former UM head coach about this subject, as well as several former players, and they thought it was the job of the head coach to oversee and handle any issues like this.sure that's why he shit-canned TG

Does anyone think that a key to the UNI game was the defense being nice to the offense during the game, or that that defense being nice to the offense during the game helped the offense play better (or helped the defense play better)? I don't. maybe not during the game but the improvement in team unity is a big theme this year

Does anyone think that when Stitt says stuff about TG, or that might be interpreted at being about TG, he offends a bunch of people and donors/supporters who like TG and continue to be friends with him--and that causes those donors/supporters not to warm up to Stitt? I do. who gives a shit

Do I like Stitt? Yes. same

Do I think Stitt will succeed at UM? Yes, or probably yes.same

On a different subject, does anyone know why the Griz football auction turnout and amount raised was down so much this year?

same
now your turn

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