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Coach's show?

UMGriz75 said:
garizzalies said:
You left out the key to the game which was also the best part of the show and a not-so-subtle dig at Traitorak. For one of his answers he was talking about how they have better team unity and he said something like, "the fact that our D just goes out and does their job now and doesn't talk about 'how come you're not scoring points?' allows us to not press on offense and turn the ball over which would have cost us the game."
Yes, it was an unnecessary and small remark.
The fuck it was. It was the key to the entire game, and likely the rest of this season. It was a critical explanation for the win. It was candid and honest. You of all people should appreciate it, particularly when you have bashed Stitt for not being more transparent with his media conferences. :roll:
 
I gotta walk back a comment of mine a tiny bit. I still think Stitt's statement about the D doing its job was the key to the game, and the most honest and insightful part of the show, etc., but it wasn't the "best" part. The best part of the show was when Semore read a tweet by Brady re trash talk Brady heard @ISU: "Hey number 3, I heard you shower with your dad." :lol:
 
Htowngriz said:
Ursus1 said:
Staying away from middle, getting conservative....not a sign of him having a lot of confidence in Brady that's for sure
Or it could be a sign that a young WR corps isn't quite there yet. But it's definitely easier to just blame everything on him.


Ya i mean most would say..man thats smart coaching...avoiding putting his qb and young wrs in situations that could blow the game...and hey what do ya know...it worked and we fucking won....weird concept
 
Htowngriz said:
Ursus1 said:
Staying away from middle, getting conservative....not a sign of him having a lot of confidence in Brady that's for sure
Or it could be a sign that a young WR corps isn't quite there yet. But it's definitely easier to just blame everything on him.

Did they start ignoring the middle of the field last season because of the young WR corps?
 
UMGriz75 said:
garizzalies said:
You left out the key to the game which was also the best part of the show and a not-so-subtle dig at Traitorak. For one of his answers he was talking about how they have better team unity and he said something like, "the fact that our D just goes out and does their job now and doesn't talk about 'how come you're not scoring points?' allows us to not press on offense and turn the ball over which would have cost us the game."
Yes, it was an unnecessary and small remark.
It was small....and insignificant. And you're grasping.


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UMGriz75 said:
havgrizfan said:
Knew it, predictable as ever, and you wouldn't dare answer. So answer this, what part of this question then wasn't about football?

Do you think defensive PLAYERS should criticize their own teammates, the guys who wear the exact same name on the front of their jersey as they do?
There is no answer for your fake questions. Drink more koolaid. It was an "unnecessary remark" making the speaker seem small and vindictive. Why try to defend that by a pathetic attempt to rephrase a question that was never asked? Just because? You are so incredibly dishonest, it is amazing. What's the point?

If you think my point was to ask "Do you think defensive PLAYERS should criticize their own teammates, the guys who wear the exact same name on the front of their jersey as they do?" then there is something wrong with you. It is not just a lie, it is deranged. I suggested nothing of the sort. If you thought I did, you have profound cognitive problems. It you understood that I didn't, and said it anyway, you have profound honesty and integrity problems.
You say so many words.....without saying anything at all. I'm genuinely impressed.


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HelenaHandBasket said:
Htowngriz said:
Ursus1 said:
Staying away from middle, getting conservative....not a sign of him having a lot of confidence in Brady that's for sure
Or it could be a sign that a young WR corps isn't quite there yet. But it's definitely easier to just blame everything on him.

Did they start ignoring the middle of the field last season because of the young WR corps?

It could also have something to do with the quality of the secondary we are facing.
 
cclarkblues said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
Htowngriz said:
Ursus1 said:
Staying away from middle, getting conservative....not a sign of him having a lot of confidence in Brady that's for sure
Or it could be a sign that a young WR corps isn't quite there yet. But it's definitely easier to just blame everything on him.

Did they start ignoring the middle of the field last season because of the young WR corps?

It could also have something to do with the quality of the secondary we are facing.


Maybe, but seems to be a lack of confidence with BG using the middle of the field.
 
brewskis said:
You say so many words.....without saying anything at all. I'm genuinely impressed.
I can only appreciate the compliment from someone so skilled at it himself.
 
havgrizfan said:
So 75, honest football question, do you think the defensive players should go to the offensive coordinator and to their teammates and bitch at them for not scoring points? Leave Ty out of the discussion, Stitt said " The DEFENSE is not asking why they're not scoring points." So my question is, do you think defensive PLAYERS should criticize their own teammates, the guys who wear the exact same name on the front of their jersey as they do?

Personally, I don't care if one side of the ball gets on the other side of the ball a bit. It happens all the time. If there is too much of it, or there are too many players doing it, or if happens to quickly, then it is not a good thing.

So, maybe they "shouldn't" but they do. Does anyone think defensive players should tackle offensive players very hard, or too hard, for the situation in practice. Perhaps they shouldn't, but they sure as heck do.

Does anyone think TG or any DC encouraged or encourages the defensive players to get on the offense? I don't.

Does anyone think that defensive players were frustrated last year, when the offense went 3 and out over and over and didn't score points? Or when Stitt went for it on 4th down on the wrong half of the field and didn't make it? I think they would eventually get frustrated. Do you think comments like that hurt the feelings of the offensive players? I don't.

Does anyone think that the defense played less hard because they were frustrated, whether they expressed their frustration or not. I don't.

Does anyone think the offense played less hard because the defense expressed their frustration to them? I don't.

Does anyone think it's the job of the head coach to keep things in line between the offense and defense? I do. The head coach sets up the meetings, whether O and D separate, or alone. The head coach is the one responsible for doing this. I talked to a former UM head coach about this subject, as well as several former players, and they thought it was the job of the head coach to oversee and handle any issues like this.

Does anyone think that a lot of posters want to interpret lots of Stitt comments about the defense, or last season, as digs against TG? I do.

Does anyone think that egriz has a lot of posters who think they can read people's minds and know how to read between the lines? I do. However, I don't think those posters know what they talking about.
 
HookedonGriz said:
Stitt
- said they didn't want to get too aggressive in the middle of the field and force a game changing turnover
I noted this last week. "With Brady overthrowing so frequently (as he did last season with different WRs), undoubtedly the idea is to not have a live field behind the WRs." Made perfect sense. It gives up 80% of the field, but that's a good example of a coach adapting reasonably to the skills of the player rather than trying to force the player to adapt to something he can't do.
- made a funny comment that JLM returning punts worked out good. Mentioned that since the rb's were thin and Nguyen would get a lot more reps, he told Niekamp that he didn't want nyugen returning punts on top of all those carries. Insert JLM and the rest is history!
Now, that is something to look forward to.

"Nguyen would get a lot more reps." Interesting remark.
 
havgrizfan said:
So 75, honest football question, do you think the defensive players should go to the offensive coordinator and to their teammates and bitch at them for not scoring points?
Havgriz specializes in these inane hypothetical questions. Apparently his mind is cluttered with them. The question is, is it a real question?

"Honest question" Havgrigriz do you have any evidence this has happened at UM?

When?

Which player actually walked up to the offensive coordinator, Stitt last year, as you specifically claimed and bitched at him about not scoring points?
 
UMGriz75 said:
HookedonGriz said:
Stitt
- said they didn't want to get too aggressive in the middle of the field and force a game changing turnover
I noted this last week. "With Brady overthrowing so frequently (as he did last season with different WRs), undoubtedly the idea is to not have a live field behind the WRs." Made perfect sense. It gives up 80% of the field, but that's a good example of a coach adapting reasonably to the skills of the player rather than trying to force the player to adapt to something he can't do.
- made a funny comment that JLM returning punts worked out good. Mentioned that since the rb's were thin and Nguyen would get a lot more reps, he told Niekamp that he didn't want nyugen returning punts on top of all those carries. Insert JLM and the rest is history!
Now, that is something to look forward to.

"Nguyen would get a lot more reps." Interesting remark.
The Nguyen remark was based off of RB availability, he was pretty much the only one we had last week. I agree with you on JLM....nobody else should be returning punts while he's on the roster.


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PlayerRep said:
Personally, I don't care if one side of the ball gets on the other side of the ball a bit. It happens all the time. If there is too much of it, or there are too many players doing it, or if happens too quickly, then it is not a good thing.
At one level, that's how team players motivate each other. Young, competitive spirits, OF COURSE they are going to make commentary about situations like that that from time to time. Can it get overbearing? Sure, but I am constantly impressed by the level-headedness expressed by collegiate athletes as a group or team to self-regulate those behaviors. If they don't then that's the coach's job.

To claim it doesn't or shouldn't happen at all is unrealistic and even counterproductive.
 
garizzalies said:
UMGriz75 said:
garizzalies said:
.. "the fact that our D just goes out and does their job now and doesn't talk about 'how come you're not scoring points?' allows us to not press on offense and turn the ball over which would have cost us the game."
Yes, it was an unnecessary and small remark.
The f*** it was. It was the key to the entire game, and likely the rest of this season. It was a critical explanation for the win. It was candid and honest. You of all people should appreciate it, particularly when you have bashed Stitt for not being more transparent with his media conferences. :roll:
It's an odd remark, for sure. Translated from coach-speak to English: "Thank God our defense doesn't talk to anyone anymore which for some reason allows us not to put our offense on the field because we would surely have turned the ball over and lost. If the defense did talk to people, we would have been forced to put our offense on the field. The results would have been fatal."

That is, at least, an interesting "key to the entire game." It may indeed have been candid, but does Stitt really believe that? Just an odd thing to say.
 
Its pretty clear the disunity, dissension, distractions, or any other "dis" you want to name that was in the locker room last year is gone now. If you want to deny the obvious conclusions to be drawn from player and coaching changes go ahead. If you don't want to make any of the obvious conclusions, that's fine too. I'm just glad we have a team that has bought into Stitt and his staff and so far has shown how that can benefit team success. If the team had the attitudes of egriz regulars it would be 0-2
 
granitegriz said:
God bless ya 75, but you would debate your wife if she finally said yes to sex! :thumb:
She says yes to sex all the time, apparently, judging by the complaints about various boyfriends.
 
horribilisfan8184 said:
Its pretty clear the disunity, dissension, distractions, or any other "dis" you want to name that was in the locker room last year is gone now.
I think it was news to the players in regard to "disunity" with regard to offense vs defense. In regard to "cuts," there was friction, for sure, not team "disunity."
 
horribilisfan8184 said:
Its pretty clear the disunity, dissension, distractions, or any other "dis" you want to name that was in the locker room last year is gone now. If you want to deny the obvious conclusions to be drawn from player and coaching changes go ahead. If you don't want to make any of the obvious conclusions, that's fine too. I'm just glad we have a team that has bought into Stitt and his staff and so far has shown how that can benefit team success. If the team had the attitudes of egriz regulars it would be 0-2

What do you think was there last year, and why do think it's gone? If anything there last year was hurting the offense last year, whatever is not there this year doesn't seem to be helping the offense (at least in 3 of the 4 quarters played this year). I have never heard of a team that has had an offense and defense that hugged and kissed each other.
 
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