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Coach Tinkle?

CDAGRIZ said:
I honestly can't think of a better job for a basketball coach. Big time money, great location, and nobody really cares about you because they're all pissed at Lane Kiffin. People tend to forget that Bill Self actually has to live in Kansas.
Remember that Self is from Oklahoma and played for Oklahoma State. Lawrence, KS is probably a step up from that background.
 
AZGrizFan said:
As a strong family man, if a company approached me with a 5-7 x increase in salary offer and a long-term contract, I think I'd have to tell my child that they'll survive graduating from a different high school.
This
 
CDAGRIZ said:
NorthEndZoneDan said:
CDAGRIZ said:
NorthEndZoneDan said:
I agree with citay and mtgrizrule. I would add to the list - Wayne is a strong family man, or should I say both parents in the Tinkle family. Tres is having an outstanding season and he's got a few years left before graduation. This was rehashed in earlier threads about Tinks leaving. Tinkle wont leave until Tres has graduated, until we are as mtgrizrule notes "an attractive option for top 150 to 300 rated HS players", and the right school comes knocking on his door. USC isn't it.


You know that the "USC" in this thread isn't the University of Southern Colorado, right?
Yes Captain Obvious. There's no question that he is going to move up to a bigger program, the time and place are the only questions. The current mess in the La Brea Tar Pits isnt' the answer.

Just making sure. So more than a 10x pay increase to live in the sunshine and coach at a Pac 12 university more committed to athletics than pretty much anywhere else, isn't the answer? What would be the answer?
Here's another obvious statement: Stable programs currently winning generally don't have coaching vacancies.

I honestly can't think of a better job for a basketball coach. Big time money, great location, and nobody really cares about you because they're all pissed at Lane Kiffin. People tend to forget that Bill Self actually has to live in Kansas.
Agreed 100%. Good post
 
CDA I agree with you that SC is an awesome opportunity, and it won't be hard for them to hire a coach. I also agree that if offered Tinkle would probably take it, even with Tres still in high school. But I think Tinkle's dream job would be Gonzaga. there was an article in the Missoula magazine recently about Tinkle. He talks about how much he misses his family in Spokane, and how he wants to spend more time with his siblings as they are all getting older. His father was a Dean at Gonzaga in teh '70's. I think Tinkle would rather have the head job at WSU than SC just to be closer to his family.
 
Grizbeer said:
CDA I agree with you that SC is an awesome opportunity, and it won't be hard for them to hire a coach. I also agree that if offered Tinkle would probably take it, even with Tres still in high school. But I think Tinkle's dream job would be Gonzaga. there was an article in the Missoula magazine recently about Tinkle. He talks about how much he misses his family in Spokane, and how he wants to spend more time with his siblings as they are all getting older. His father was a Dean at Gonzaga in teh '70's. I think Tinkle would rather have the head job at WSU than SC just to be closer to his family.
that might be more likely, in time. Let's hope he stays around Missoula for a while..a good coach will always find a niche....this thread was just a thought..by the way, it is 77 degrees in Pasadena with snow on the mountains and crystal clear...damn, why am I on the net today...
 
An example of Tinkle's love for Eastern Washington:

Second star: Sophomore forward Mike Weisner. It was Weisner’s 3-pointer with 3.4 seconds to play that sent the game to overtime. The play came on a call Tinkle designed during a timeout. Tinkle went to high school in Spokane, Wash., and Weisner in Walla Walla, Wash.

“In the locker room I said, ‘You’re a Washington kid, who else am I going to draw it up for?”

you gotta love Tinkle's loyalty and wearing that on his sleeve. Of course you would prefer that that loyalty was directed at Montana kids instead of Washington kids (and I do believe that Tinkle will always give the benefit of the doubt to a marginal Eastern Washington kid over a marginal Montana kid - Andy Garland being an example) but I still respect his loyalty.
 
Grizbeer said:
CDA I agree with you that SC is an awesome opportunity, and it won't be hard for them to hire a coach. I also agree that if offered Tinkle would probably take it, even with Tres still in high school. But I think Tinkle's dream job would be Gonzaga. there was an article in the Missoula magazine recently about Tinkle. He talks about how much he misses his family in Spokane, and how he wants to spend more time with his siblings as they are all getting older. His father was a Dean at Gonzaga in teh '70's. I think Tinkle would rather have the head job at WSU than SC just to be closer to his family.
This + I would also add that just because a job is in Cali that doesn't necessarily mean its a plumb job.
 
I would love to see one of our coaches move up to a program who's coach also just moved on to a better job. Somewhere where the program is already strong instead of a dumpster fire.

Would be sweet to see Mark Few move on, and then see Tinks slide back over to Spokompton. Be even sweeter to see him continue to build Montana's program.
 
I'll stick with the positives about of Coach Tinkle...
1. Exceptional recruiter.
2. Produces talented daughters
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etc.
 
NorthEndZoneDan said:
Grizbeer said:
CDA I agree with you that SC is an awesome opportunity, and it won't be hard for them to hire a coach. I also agree that if offered Tinkle would probably take it, even with Tres still in high school. But I think Tinkle's dream job would be Gonzaga. there was an article in the Missoula magazine recently about Tinkle. He talks about how much he misses his family in Spokane, and how he wants to spend more time with his siblings as they are all getting older. His father was a Dean at Gonzaga in teh '70's. I think Tinkle would rather have the head job at WSU than SC just to be closer to his family.
This + I would also add that just because a job is in Cali that doesn't necessarily mean its a plumb job.

For better or worse, Tinkle has a better shot at getting a job at almost any PAC 12 program than he does at GU.

Also, who ever said it would be a "plumb job" just because it is in California? I agree that the UC Irvine job might not be the thing of dreams, but of the 24 NCAA Division I programs in California, there is no better job than USC, other than UCLA; and that's even debatable.
 
CDAGRIZ said:
NorthEndZoneDan said:
Grizbeer said:
CDA I agree with you that SC is an awesome opportunity, and it won't be hard for them to hire a coach. I also agree that if offered Tinkle would probably take it, even with Tres still in high school. But I think Tinkle's dream job would be Gonzaga. there was an article in the Missoula magazine recently about Tinkle. He talks about how much he misses his family in Spokane, and how he wants to spend more time with his siblings as they are all getting older. His father was a Dean at Gonzaga in teh '70's. I think Tinkle would rather have the head job at WSU than SC just to be closer to his family.
This + I would also add that just because a job is in Cali that doesn't necessarily mean its a plumb job.

For better or worse, Tinkle has a better shot at getting a job at almost any PAC 12 program than he does at GU.

Also, who ever said it would be a "plumb job" just because it is in California? I agree that the UC Irvine job might not be the thing of dreams, but of the 24 NCAA Division I programs in California, there is no better job than USC, other than UCLA; and that's even debatable.

grizbeer has pointed out the Gonzaga and WSU programs as possible plums that could be attractive. Gonzaga is obviously well known but I really dont know anything about the state of the program at Wazu other than the conference angle. Other than the obvious pay increase, what would be attractive about Wazu?
 
NorthEndZoneDan said:
CDAGRIZ said:
NorthEndZoneDan said:
Grizbeer said:
CDA I agree with you that SC is an awesome opportunity, and it won't be hard for them to hire a coach. I also agree that if offered Tinkle would probably take it, even with Tres still in high school. But I think Tinkle's dream job would be Gonzaga. there was an article in the Missoula magazine recently about Tinkle. He talks about how much he misses his family in Spokane, and how he wants to spend more time with his siblings as they are all getting older. His father was a Dean at Gonzaga in teh '70's. I think Tinkle would rather have the head job at WSU than SC just to be closer to his family.
This + I would also add that just because a job is in Cali that doesn't necessarily mean its a plumb job.

For better or worse, Tinkle has a better shot at getting a job at almost any PAC 12 program than he does at GU.

Also, who ever said it would be a "plumb job" just because it is in California? I agree that the UC Irvine job might not be the thing of dreams, but of the 24 NCAA Division I programs in California, there is no better job than USC, other than UCLA; and that's even debatable.

grizbeer has pointed out the Gonzaga and WSU programs as possible plums that could be attractive. Gonzaga is obviously well known but I really dont know anything about the state of the program at Wazu other than the conference angle. Other than the obvious pay increase, what would be attractive about Wazu?

Lower expectations?
 
GrizLA said:
NorthEndZoneDan said:
CDAGRIZ said:
NorthEndZoneDan said:
I agree with citay and mtgrizrule. I would add to the list - Wayne is a strong family man, or should I say both parents in the Tinkle family. Tres is having an outstanding season and he's got a few years left before graduation. This was rehashed in earlier threads about Tinks leaving. Tinkle wont leave until Tres has graduated, until we are as mtgrizrule notes "an attractive option for top 150 to 300 rated HS players", and the right school comes knocking on his door. USC isn't it.


You know that the "USC" in this thread isn't the University of Southern Colorado, right?
Yes Captain Obvious. There's no question that he is going to move up to a bigger program, the time and place are the only questions. The current mess in the La Brea Tar Pits isnt' the answer.
The Galen Center at USC is a damn nice arena. USC is a football school first and foremost, but has made some pretty good progress in bball. Their problems are not unique to the elite academic schools of the PAC. Those in metro areas, like Washington, SC, Cal play their games generally during an extended traffic rush...and, the elite schools attract thousands of students from over seas that have no clue as to what American universities offer, not to mention the tough demands of academia. Also, there are far more things to do than attend a basketball game. Times have changed. The universities have changed. Most are attracting highly motivated kids with a focus on being number one in the class...not conducive to a full stadium, and with that student comes the cultural interests of fine arts...Stanford just dedicated one of the greatest halls on any campus...that would not have happened in my time. Simply put, basketball is having a hard time drawing students on a regular basis. They will turn up for a "big" game..not like football. LA is no longer the LA most of people who hate it think it is. I can decide between skiing today, or the beach, or just sit around the pool...or not....it is not hard to recruit talent or coaches or faculty to schools here..so, not sure what the negative would be about being an "LA guy"....I feel lucky to live in the area...

Here is what might not be so great about CA. http://kdvr.com/2013/01/21/phil-mickelson-says-higher-taxes-are-causing-him-to-consider-retirement/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 
Tinks is NOT going to be the next Zag coach..that honor goes to a current assistant, probably Ray Jac.

But, Few is not going anwhere anyway..
 
info said:
Tinks is NOT going to be the next Zag coach..that honor goes to a current assistant, probably Ray Jac.

But, Few is not going anwhere anyway..

He is HARDLY a shoo in for the job, IF, and when Few ever left. How soon we forget how miserably he failed at Utah and got his ass fired.
 
CDAGRIZ said:
NorthEndZoneDan said:
Grizbeer said:
CDA I agree with you that SC is an awesome opportunity, and it won't be hard for them to hire a coach. I also agree that if offered Tinkle would probably take it, even with Tres still in high school. But I think Tinkle's dream job would be Gonzaga. there was an article in the Missoula magazine recently about Tinkle. He talks about how much he misses his family in Spokane, and how he wants to spend more time with his siblings as they are all getting older. His father was a Dean at Gonzaga in teh '70's. I think Tinkle would rather have the head job at WSU than SC just to be closer to his family.
This + I would also add that just because a job is in Cali that doesn't necessarily mean its a plumb job.

For better or worse, Tinkle has a better shot at getting a job at almost any PAC 12 program than he does at GU.

Also, who ever said it would be a "plumb job" just because it is in California? I agree that the UC Irvine job might not be the thing of dreams, but of the 24 NCAA Division I programs in California, there is no better job than USC, other than UCLA; and that's even debatable.


SDSU is the best job in California these days. They OWN the state on the court the past 5-6 years to the tune of 32 straight wins versus CA teams, including USC & UCLA this year. Other than their 1-point loss to Arizona in a seesaw game earlier this season, they had a streak of 12 straight versus the Pac-12. PLUS!, it's not in LA, which sucks, no matter what GrizLA tries to blow up your backside.
 
With all the conference shuffling, it is a matter of time before SDSU is part of the PAC 16, along with 3 other programs. I am guessing Texas, BYU, and Oklahoma. Depending on how the realignment plays out, Boise State may even have a chance. BSU needs to up their academics and prove a lot more on the basketball court too.

I honestly think SDSU will be one of the teams though.
 
mtgrizrule said:
With all the conference shuffling, it is a matter of time before SDSU is part of the PAC 16, along with 3 other programs. I am guessing Texas, BYU, and Oklahoma. Depending on how the realignment plays out, Boise State may even have a chance. BSU needs to up their academics and prove a lot more on the basketball court too.

I honestly think SDSU will be one of the teams though.

I agree on most of your post, but none of the BIG BOY conferences want Boise State for a number of reasons, academics being one of them. They also have substandard facilities compared to most of the big conferences. Take a look at what cellar dweller WSU is doing to their football facilities in the PAC 12. Far superior to BSU, then go North to UW, and the differences are like the difference between Sac State and Boise.
 
GrizPony said:
GrizLA said:
NorthEndZoneDan said:
CDAGRIZ said:
You know that the "USC" in this thread isn't the University of Southern Colorado, right?
Yes Captain Obvious. There's no question that he is going to move up to a bigger program, the time and place are the only questions. The current mess in the La Brea Tar Pits isnt' the answer.
The Galen Center at USC is a damn nice arena. USC is a football school first and foremost, but has made some pretty good progress in bball. Their problems are not unique to the elite academic schools of the PAC. Those in metro areas, like Washington, SC, Cal play their games generally during an extended traffic rush...and, the elite schools attract thousands of students from over seas that have no clue as to what American universities offer, not to mention the tough demands of academia. Also, there are far more things to do than attend a basketball game. Times have changed. The universities have changed. Most are attracting highly motivated kids with a focus on being number one in the class...not conducive to a full stadium, and with that student comes the cultural interests of fine arts...Stanford just dedicated one of the greatest halls on any campus...that would not have happened in my time. Simply put, basketball is having a hard time drawing students on a regular basis. They will turn up for a "big" game..not like football. LA is no longer the LA most of people who hate it think it is. I can decide between skiing today, or the beach, or just sit around the pool...or not....it is not hard to recruit talent or coaches or faculty to schools here..so, not sure what the negative would be about being an "LA guy"....I feel lucky to live in the area...

Here is what might not be so great about CA. http://kdvr.com/2013/01/21/phil-mickelson-says-higher-taxes-are-causing-him-to-consider-retirement/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
We tax ourselves because we want a better place and we do all right...check the real stats...more billionaires, millionaires, businesses, start up, respected universities and medical facilities...one guy "thinking" of leaving Ca is hardly a rush...more move here daily...we pay more to the Fed so you can pay less....
 
mtgrizrule said:
With all the conference shuffling, it is a matter of time before SDSU is part of the PAC 16, along with 3 other programs. I am guessing Texas, BYU, and Oklahoma. Depending on how the realignment plays out, Boise State may even have a chance. BSU needs to up their academics and prove a lot more on the basketball court too.

I honestly think SDSU will be one of the teams though.
No, I don't think so. Most likely, a new league of Calif schools with a few mountain schools...SD state is making a good show but it is no PAC school. Many here, bemoan the fact that Utah and Colorado are now in the league..but, they both have fairly strong academics or potential...
 
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