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Chalich

Eriul said:
well the season is over but at least the question about the better qb is answered

Meh. What I saw was more inconsistency. QB doesn't seem to matter. Up one game, down the next. School record yesterday, less than 100 yards passing today. We saw much of the same last season....

Consistent inconsistency defines the Griz QBs.
 
Brady is a very good passing QB; so is Chad. So, for that matter, was Makena. The game play strategy today did not play to any of UM's strengths. Some offer reasons why. OK. So, why then play to weaknesses?

As one of the game play announcers noted. It's interesting to play a "control the clock" strategy by short passing and short running, but ... "don't you have to be ahead first?"
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
Eriul said:
well the season is over but at least the question about the better qb is answered

Both are average. I know this will get your panties in a bunch, but so be it.

After watching today's game I tend to agree. Neither one of these QBs are good enough. Chalich adds mobility, but he is not a great runner, and is clearly inferior to BG in passing. BG is a good passer, but can't run. I would have put BG in for the 2nd half (if he was healthy).

Griz really need someone else at QB, someone who can pass well, run well and read defenses.
 
GrizRanger said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
Eriul said:
well the season is over but at least the question about the better qb is answered

Both are average. I know this will get your panties in a bunch, but so be it.

After watching today's game I tend to agree. Neither one of these QBs are good enough. Chalich adds mobility, but he is not a great runner, and is clearly inferior to BG in passing. BG is a good passer, but can't run. I would have put BG in for the 2nd half (if he was healthy).

Griz really need someone else at QB, someone who can pass well, run well and read defenses.

BG has been a top 5 fcs QB statistically before 2 weeks a go. He doesn't turn the ball over and moves the ball.

Today we had a defense drop 8 and rush 3 so many times and it was effective against Chalich who would go through 1-2 reads and then try to scramble into a spy consistently. BG would have been able to read these defenses, check to better plays, and torched them. Unfortunately, he wasn't 100% today.

I'm not saying we would have won with BG but I have 0 doubt in my mind that we would have controlled the game much much better with him taking the snaps.
 
Eriul said:
BG has been a top 5 fcs QB statistically before 2 weeks a go. He doesn't turn the ball over and moves the ball.

Today we had a defense drop 8 and rush 3 so many times and it was effective against Chalich who would go through 1-2 reads and then try to scramble into a spy consistently. BG would have been able to read these defenses, check to better plays, and torched them. Unfortunately, he wasn't 100% today.

I'm not saying we would have won with BG but I have 0 doubt in my mind that we would have controlled the game much much better with him taking the snaps.


We wouldn't expect you to answer any differently.
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
Eriul said:
BG has been a top 5 fcs QB statistically before 2 weeks a go. He doesn't turn the ball over and moves the ball.

Today we had a defense drop 8 and rush 3 so many times and it was effective against Chalich who would go through 1-2 reads and then try to scramble into a spy consistently. BG would have been able to read these defenses, check to better plays, and torched them. Unfortunately, he wasn't 100% today.

I'm not saying we would have won with BG but I have 0 doubt in my mind that we would have controlled the game much much better with him taking the snaps.


We wouldn't expect you to answer any differently.

yah yah yah we get it. You think every QB on our roster is shit and can't play in the fcs.
 
Eriul said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
Eriul said:
BG has been a top 5 fcs QB statistically before 2 weeks a go. He doesn't turn the ball over and moves the ball.

Today we had a defense drop 8 and rush 3 so many times and it was effective against Chalich who would go through 1-2 reads and then try to scramble into a spy consistently. BG would have been able to read these defenses, check to better plays, and torched them. Unfortunately, he wasn't 100% today.

I'm not saying we would have won with BG but I have 0 doubt in my mind that we would have controlled the game much much better with him taking the snaps.


We wouldn't expect you to answer any differently.

yah yah yah we get it. You think every QB on our roster is shit and can't play in the fcs.

Yep, that is what I said. :roll:
 
who cares what you said? You haven't provided an opinion or stance in anything other than just being a contrarian. Initially you were basically saying BG sucked early in the season. You were one of the biggest posters on here calling for his benching.
Now you are playing the impartial card as you think both qb's are "average" when in reality both are significantly above average with a very bad offense around them and they both put up good numbers.

Fact is: Chalich and Brady can't catch the ball for the WR's. They can't kick the extra points and field goals. They can't catch the ball for the punter. They can't play the whole game by themselves and it's shocking that Egriz posters think it has to do with coaching now. Everyone wants to blame one person when the whole team has to improve and you can say that's the coaches fault but today wasn't on Stitt. Today was on the players.
 
Eriul said:
GrizRanger said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
Eriul said:
well the season is over but at least the question about the better qb is answered

Both are average. I know this will get your panties in a bunch, but so be it.

After watching today's game I tend to agree. Neither one of these QBs are good enough. Chalich adds mobility, but he is not a great runner, and is clearly inferior to BG in passing. BG is a good passer, but can't run. I would have put BG in for the 2nd half (if he was healthy).

Griz really need someone else at QB, someone who can pass well, run well and read defenses.

BG has been a top 5 fcs QB statistically before 2 weeks a go. He doesn't turn the ball over and moves the ball.

Today we had a defense drop 8 and rush 3 so many times and it was effective against Chalich who would go through 1-2 reads and then try to scramble into a spy consistently. BG would have been able to read these defenses, check to better plays, and torched them. Unfortunately, he wasn't 100% today.

I'm not saying we would have won with BG but I have 0 doubt in my mind that we would have controlled the game much much better with him taking the snaps.

It would have been nice if Stitt allowed BG to play in the 2nd half so we could have seen how he did against UNC's defense. All this is speculation.
 
Eriul said:
who cares what you said? You haven't provided an opinion or stance in anything other than just being a contrarian. Initially you were basically saying BG sucked early in the season. You were one of the biggest posters on here calling for his benching.
Now you are playing the impartial card as you think both qb's are "average" when in reality both are significantly above average with a very bad offense around them and they both put up good numbers.

Fact is: Chalich and Brady can't catch the ball for the WR's. They can't kick the extra points and field goals. They can't catch the ball for the punter. They can't play the whole game by themselves and it's shocking that Egriz posters think it has to do with coaching now. Everyone wants to blame one person when the whole team has to improve and you can say that's the coaches fault but today wasn't on Stitt. Today was on the players.
They perform poorly in many areas because they are poorly coached. It is that simple... :egriz:
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
Eriul said:
You were one of the biggest posters on here calling for his benching.


False

Maybe we can say "That's the Gus led offense we know.....3 and out in 30 seconds"

Gus is limited at what throws he can make. And I don't think he nor Stitt has confidence throwing in the middle of the field because of his limitations.

I don't know if Chalich is the answer, but sometimes you have to try something different.

I don't care what some people think, but the limitations of Gus kill the offense.

Wrong. While I agree that the OL struggled, a good QB is able to adjust to the game. Gus struggled big time in the first half and is responsible for his turnovers. Gus needs better situation awareness. Gus made adjustments in the second half but still is very inconsistent.

Gus was dreadful in the first half and if that continues they have to look at something else.

no consistency at the QB position

As much as I hate myself for saying this, I give Gus the nod since that last drive, but I would have a short leash. Stitt will stick with him because of his giant ego.

Gus looks clueless

Anyone think that Stitt is too stubborn to yank Gus?

I'm sorry, but if Gus is the best option at QB, the Griz are in trouble.

Gus looks dreadful

heightsgriz wrote:
We have a kicker!
Wonder if he can play QB :D

AZGrizFan wrote:
Remember there are 11 freshmen starting tonight.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Gus is playing like one.

Took me about 5 minutes to find these. I'm sure there is more. Lots of these are during the 1st fucking game of the season...
 
rimrockgriz said:
Eriul said:
who cares what you said? You haven't provided an opinion or stance in anything other than just being a contrarian. Initially you were basically saying BG sucked early in the season. You were one of the biggest posters on here calling for his benching.
Now you are playing the impartial card as you think both qb's are "average" when in reality both are significantly above average with a very bad offense around them and they both put up good numbers.

Fact is: Chalich and Brady can't catch the ball for the WR's. They can't kick the extra points and field goals. They can't catch the ball for the punter. They can't play the whole game by themselves and it's shocking that Egriz posters think it has to do with coaching now. Everyone wants to blame one person when the whole team has to improve and you can say that's the coaches fault but today wasn't on Stitt. Today was on the players.
They perform poorly in many areas because they are poorly coached. It is that simple... :egriz:

You act like Stitt coaching "better" would make our punter catch the snap, kickers make the automatic points, WR's catch the ball, our senior pre-season all american DE not commit a dumb penalty at the end, etc. etc. etc.

A level of play is expected when you come to this college and our players just committed consistent errors that can't be "coached."
 
Eriul said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
Eriul said:
You were one of the biggest posters on here calling for his benching.


False

Maybe we can say "That's the Gus led offense we know.....3 and out in 30 seconds"

Gus is limited at what throws he can make. And I don't think he nor Stitt has confidence throwing in the middle of the field because of his limitations.

I don't know if Chalich is the answer, but sometimes you have to try something different.

I don't care what some people think, but the limitations of Gus kill the offense.

Wrong. While I agree that the OL struggled, a good QB is able to adjust to the game. Gus struggled big time in the first half and is responsible for his turnovers. Gus needs better situation awareness. Gus made adjustments in the second half but still is very inconsistent.

Gus was dreadful in the first half and if that continues they have to look at something else.

no consistency at the QB position

As much as I hate myself for saying this, I give Gus the nod since that last drive, but I would have a short leash. Stitt will stick with him because of his giant ego.

Gus looks clueless

Anyone think that Stitt is too stubborn to yank Gus?

I'm sorry, but if Gus is the best option at QB, the Griz are in trouble.

Gus looks dreadful

heightsgriz wrote:
We have a kicker!
Wonder if he can play QB :D

AZGrizFan wrote:
Remember there are 11 freshmen starting tonight.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Gus is playing like one.

Took me about 5 minutes to find these. I'm sure there is more. Lots of these are during the 1st f***[*] game of the season...

And there is not one quote there with me leading the charge to bench BG. I have criticized both him and Stitt.
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
Eriul said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
Eriul said:
You were one of the biggest posters on here calling for his benching.


False

Maybe we can say "That's the Gus led offense we know.....3 and out in 30 seconds"

Gus is limited at what throws he can make. And I don't think he nor Stitt has confidence throwing in the middle of the field because of his limitations.

I don't know if Chalich is the answer, but sometimes you have to try something different.

I don't care what some people think, but the limitations of Gus kill the offense.

Wrong. While I agree that the OL struggled, a good QB is able to adjust to the game. Gus struggled big time in the first half and is responsible for his turnovers. Gus needs better situation awareness. Gus made adjustments in the second half but still is very inconsistent.

Gus was dreadful in the first half and if that continues they have to look at something else.

no consistency at the QB position

As much as I hate myself for saying this, I give Gus the nod since that last drive, but I would have a short leash. Stitt will stick with him because of his giant ego.

Gus looks clueless

Anyone think that Stitt is too stubborn to yank Gus?

I'm sorry, but if Gus is the best option at QB, the Griz are in trouble.

Gus looks dreadful

heightsgriz wrote:
We have a kicker!
Wonder if he can play QB :D

AZGrizFan wrote:
Remember there are 11 freshmen starting tonight.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Gus is playing like one.

Took me about 5 minutes to find these. I'm sure there is more. Lots of these are during the 1st f***[*] game of the season...

And there is not one quote there with me leading the charge to bench BG. I have criticized both him and Stitt.

You wondered if our kicker can play QB.

You say that the griz are in "trouble" if Brady is the best option.

You call Stitt stubborn and egotistical for not benching Gus

You say if his play "continues" he will need to look elsewhere

You say "sometimes you have to try something different"


You obviously wanted him benched.
 
Eriul said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
Eriul said:
HelenaHandBasket said:

Maybe we can say "That's the Gus led offense we know.....3 and out in 30 seconds"

Gus is limited at what throws he can make. And I don't think he nor Stitt has confidence throwing in the middle of the field because of his limitations.

I don't know if Chalich is the answer, but sometimes you have to try something different.

I don't care what some people think, but the limitations of Gus kill the offense.

Wrong. While I agree that the OL struggled, a good QB is able to adjust to the game. Gus struggled big time in the first half and is responsible for his turnovers. Gus needs better situation awareness. Gus made adjustments in the second half but still is very inconsistent.

Gus was dreadful in the first half and if that continues they have to look at something else.

no consistency at the QB position

As much as I hate myself for saying this, I give Gus the nod since that last drive, but I would have a short leash. Stitt will stick with him because of his giant ego.

Gus looks clueless

Anyone think that Stitt is too stubborn to yank Gus?

I'm sorry, but if Gus is the best option at QB, the Griz are in trouble.

Gus looks dreadful


Wonder if he can play QB :D


Gus is playing like one.

Took me about 5 minutes to find these. I'm sure there is more. Lots of these are during the 1st f***[*] game of the season...

And there is not one quote there with me leading the charge to bench BG. I have criticized both him and Stitt.

You wondered if our kicker can play QB.

You say that the griz are in "trouble" if Brady is the best option.

You call Stitt stubborn and egotistical for not benching Gus

You say if his play "continues" he will need to look elsewhere

You say "sometimes you have to try something different"


You obviously wanted him benched.

None of those say I was pushing for him to be benched. You just assume that any criticism is about him being benched.
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
Eriul said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
Eriul said:
Took me about 5 minutes to find these. I'm sure there is more. Lots of these are during the 1st f***[*] game of the season...

And there is not one quote there with me leading the charge to bench BG. I have criticized both him and Stitt.

You wondered if our kicker can play QB.

You say that the griz are in "trouble" if Brady is the best option.

You call Stitt stubborn and egotistical for not benching Gus

You say if his play "continues" he will need to look elsewhere

You say "sometimes you have to try something different"


You obviously wanted him benched.

None of those say I was pushing for him to be benched. You just assume that any criticism is about him being benched.

haha sure dude. Whatever you fucking say ;)
 
Eriul said:
rimrockgriz said:
Eriul said:
who cares what you said? You haven't provided an opinion or stance in anything other than just being a contrarian. Initially you were basically saying BG sucked early in the season. You were one of the biggest posters on here calling for his benching.
Now you are playing the impartial card as you think both qb's are "average" when in reality both are significantly above average with a very bad offense around them and they both put up good numbers.

Fact is: Chalich and Brady can't catch the ball for the WR's. They can't kick the extra points and field goals. They can't catch the ball for the punter. They can't play the whole game by themselves and it's shocking that Egriz posters think it has to do with coaching now. Everyone wants to blame one person when the whole team has to improve and you can say that's the coaches fault but today wasn't on Stitt. Today was on the players.
They perform poorly in many areas because they are poorly coached. It is that simple... :egriz:

You act like Stitt coaching "better" would make our punter catch the snap, kickers make the automatic points, WR's catch the ball, our senior pre-season all american DE not commit a dumb penalty at the end, etc. etc. etc.

A level of play is expected when you come to this college and our players just committed consistent errors that can't be "coached."
Almost every f'n mistake you reference is "coaching". You hit the road and find a kid that can kick 30 yd field goals. I'm so sick of hearing the scholarship excuse. We don't even have one 'deep' in many positions. How many times have I rattled about the punt returner being a time bomb waiting to go off? Guess what? We can't play man to man in this secondary. We don't have the skill across the defense and the brain power to adjust to multiple formations. Bingham dropped an easy pass in the end zone, however BG would have thrown him a fast ball. College football is heavily predicated on coaching. Look at the big programs. We're not tracking an elephant bleeding in a snow storm :dead: I'm not pissed at our "QB's"...they're avg. joe... :egriz:
 
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