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Cats buyout game vs NDSU

bigsky33 said:
Cringer if you don't think college football is about the money in this day and age you are totally naive. I suggest you have a talk with your AD. I bet he spends 95 % of his time on budgets and finances. Why do you think there is mass movement between conference the last couple of years and FCS schools moving to FBS? Do you think it's because these schools want to play different teams? It's all about the money!

Like I said,I am deeply disappointed that we are not playing this game. The bison have great fans other than the whiners that are on here. I too enjoyed it when they came here for the playoff game a couple of years ago. I was looking forward to going to the game in Fargo. I wish they were in the BSC along with SDSU and SD. On the other hand I don't know all the reasons why we bought out the contract. I am not going to be critical of this move when I don't have the facts.

Calling me naive and claiming not to know the reasons this game was bought out is hysterical. If the bottom line, which I am fully aware matters a great deal, will differ so greatly between going to SMU and Fargo that it just propels your budget from the red to the black I stand corrected. I am starting to feel sorry for App State as traveling to Missoula will clearly put them in the poor house.

My contingencies remain:
1. This oozes of the stuff Cat fans like to chide UM over.
2. Financial reasons are not the sole motivator of your Athletic Department (No I can't prove this).
3. Your budget would have been just fine going to NDSU.
4. A win at SMU is the only way to fully justify this move.


I am sorry for your disappointment in not going to Fargo, but not understanding NDSU fan's disappointment is far more naive than me being disillusioned with the business end of sports. I can hear Coach Ash now, "Fellas, Fellas, we know you thought this program was about playing football, but there are budgets to be considered. Look at it this way, the beatdown we get at SMU will pay far more than the beatdown NDSU would have delivered. Go Cats!"

I feel for your players and your players alone. As a player, this is a slap in the face.
 
Special K said:
Bizon said:
billings_poke said:
So if the dakota schools want to play the montana schools so badly why did they decline the Big SKy invite?
We really couldnt care a less if we play montana schools. We care about reneging on a deal to play us in Fargo. You have bailed twice now. We honored our deal and went to Bozeman and played u guys. It's an honor and respect deal. As of two days ago we here in North Dakota thought Montana State would be the last team on the planet aside from the Griz to renege on a promise. It's absolutely embarrassing to think we used to hold the cats in high regard. You keep trying to come up with excuse after excuse but the fact remains that u are scared to get beat.


Good. Now we are even. We don't hold you in high regard either. The only good thing which ever came out of North Dakota was an oil pipeline.
Now your attacking our oil?? HaHaHa!!
 
Chris should charge posters from "other" schools a user fee, since they sure seem to use his board far more often to have their pissing matches between one another.
 
Everett your are right! You guys have enough things going on in Missoula to post about on here. You don't need this pissing match!
 
I can't imagine any scenario where UM backs out of a game with the defending National Champion. These are the type of games that separate the top FCS programs from the junk.

If you consider your program to be near the top of the FCS, you can't pass on the opportunity to knock off the defending champs in their house.

Question for cat fans - What would be more valuable to your program?

A. A win on the road against the defending national champs, in a hostile environment. One of the biggest wins in program history. And a win that would get everybody's attention (esp. recruits, booster$, and fans).

Or

B. Go to SMU, lose (badly I'm guessing, SMU is a good), shake some hands for your "Texas pipeline", take some pictures with the McGhee clan, go home with what, $400,000?

I'll take option A any day, no matter the odds of coming home with a win. Gotta take these chances to keep your program moving forward.

And the Texas piepline? That's laughable. Recruiting Texas kids to Montana is a gamble. It's a gamble that has worked out for msu so far, but I don't think it's sustainable. I certainly would be scratching my head if it was even mentioned by Ash as a reason for backing out of the NDSU game.
 
griz5700 said:
I can't imagine any scenario where UM backs out of a game with the defending National Champion. These are the type of games that separate the top FCS programs from the junk.

If you consider your program to be near the top of the FCS, you can't pass on the opportunity to knock off the defending champs in their house.

Question for cat fans - What would be more valuable to your program?

A. A win on the road against the defending national champs, in a hostile environment. One of the biggest wins in program history. And a win that would get everybody's attention (esp. recruits, booster$, and fans).

Or

B. Go to SMU, lose (badly I'm guessing, SMU is a good), shake some hands for your "Texas pipeline", take some pictures with the McGhee clan, go home with what, $400,000?

I'll take option A any day, no matter the odds of coming home with a win. Gotta take these chances to keep your program moving forward.

And the Texas piepline? That's laughable. Recruiting Texas kids to Montana is a gamble. It's a gamble that has worked out for msu so far, but I don't think it's sustainable. I certainly would be scratching my head if it was even mentioned by Ash as a reason for backing out of the NDSU game.

This pisses me off to no end if I'm a Bobcat player. For them it's been about the next level. What a slap in the face.
 
Special K said:
Good. Now we are even. We don't hold you in high regard either. The only good thing which ever came out of North Dakota was an oil pipeline.


I finally figured out the animosity most of the posters on eGriz have for NDSU.

PURE AND SIMPLE ENVY!

We want to be NDSU so bad it hurts but we cant seems to climb over the NC hurdle that App St, Geo So and NDSU have no trouble doing multiple times.

Continue with your blatant complexes towards a winning program......I am sure they dont give a flying fu*k but it funny to watch you tools envy like this.



:coffee:
 
Bison if there are no facts that can justify backing out under the buy-out clause then why is this provision even in the contract? Bison, your attitude of don't bore me with the facts reflects your lack of honor and integrity. Unfortunately, in the real world there are circumstances that causes these things to happen. Yes it's upsetting, but life continues. All your whining is not going to change it. Life is a bitch and then you die!
 
Cringer, I agree if I were a player I would be pissed. It is all about the next level for them. But, unfortunately they are not the ones responsible or that get to make that decision on contracts or financial benefit nor would they want to be involved in that. You like Bison are drawing a lot conclusions that you don't have a clue about when it comes to MSU. Therefore, they are totally meaningless. I doubt you make decisions in your own life without gathering the facts first. If you do so then you are an idiot!
 
EverettGriz said:
Chris should charge posters from "other" schools a user fee, since they sure seem to use his board far more often to have their pissing matches between one another.

That's funny since this thread starts out with the word "Cats" and has 3,177 views in 24 hours. You guys do a lot of worrying about the Cats these days. Focus on your own problems, especially winning at home this season.
 
ALPHAGRIZ1 said:
Special K said:
Good. Now we are even. We don't hold you in high regard either. The only good thing which ever came out of North Dakota was an oil pipeline.


I finally figured out the animosity most of the posters on eGriz have for NDSU.

PURE AND SIMPLE ENVY!

We want to be NDSU so bad it hurts but we cant seems to climb over the NC hurdle that App St, Geo So and NDSU have no trouble doing multiple times.

Continue with your blatant complexes towards a winning program......I am sure they dont give a flying fu*k but it funny to watch you tools envy like this.



:coffee:
they way you post how can you say "we" while talking about the griz? and i think we have won multipul titles if im not mistaken...and using GA southern who hasnt won in 13 years? i knwo we havent won since 2001 but we have enjoyed much more success than GA southern in the past 12 years.
 
Ah hell this isn't about money this is about the bobcats trying to schedule their way into the playoffs. It will have less impact to get beat down by SMU than it would get bitch slapped down by NDSU the FCS National Champions. Grow a pair MSEuliss, man up and play the big dogs of the FCS.
 
Blgs Griz Fan said:
Ah hell this isn't about money this is about the bobcats trying to schedule their way into the playoffs. It will have less impact to get beat down by SMU than it would get bitch slapped down by NDSU the FCS National Champions. Grow a pair MSEuliss, man up and play the big dogs of the FCS.

Totally agree. They should nut up and do it. What's wrong with scheduling yourself into the playoffs though?
 
ALPHAGRIZ1 said:
Special K said:
Good. Now we are even. We don't hold you in high regard either. The only good thing which ever came out of North Dakota was an oil pipeline.


I finally figured out the animosity most of the posters on eGriz have for NDSU.

PURE AND SIMPLE ENVY!

We want to be NDSU so bad it hurts but we cant seems to climb over the NC hurdle that App St, Geo So and NDSU have no trouble doing multiple times.

Continue with your blatant complexes towards a winning program......I am sure they dont give a flying fu*k but it funny to watch you tools envy like this.



:coffee:

And we Bobcats don't even want to face it. That just shows you how far Montana has fallen - that they ridicule the Cats for scheduling themselves into the playoffs when they themselves can't get to .500.
 
Jerry Punch said:
EverettGriz said:
Chris should charge posters from "other" schools a user fee, since they sure seem to use his board far more often to have their pissing matches between one another.

That's funny since this thread starts out with the word "Cats" and has 3,177 views in 24 hours. You guys do a lot of worrying about the Cats these days. Focus on your own problems, especially winning at home this season.
This thread wouldnt have went anywhere if it wasnt for Cat and bison fans trolling on egriz....just curious punch..why is it that i can expect to see your posts in every single thread on EGRIZ?
 
Jpun, if you schedule yourselves into the playoffs sooner or later you will run into a real team. Do the initials SHSU have any meaning to you. They sure made Ash's angels look like chump chamge two years in a row both away and at home.
 
billings_poke said:
Hell had Iowa or Wisconsin called NDSU you would be buying out a road game on your schedule before the AD even hung up the phone. get real here.

Nope, we had a home and home vs SHSU a few years ago. We left better options on the table to go down to Texas and honor our contract with them. Our AD took some heat for only having five home but he at least stands behind his principles.

I think part of the reason he is mad is that he was flexible with MSU. He gave them six years to figure it out and this date was confirmed in 2009. If MSU is so hungry for money and recruiting they should have just spared us all the trouble and we could have worked on getting another decent team to Fargo. Our AD has been trying to get some quality non-conference home games.
 
billings_poke said:
So if the dakota schools want to play the montana schools so badly why did they decline the Big SKy invite?

Hard to decline an invite that we never received. Blame Fullerton and Sac/PSU for that.
 
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