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spsyk said:
A team with 0 scholarships beat Cal Poly in the playoffs last year. They don't have athletic scholarships, but don't be fooled. They get good football talent with academic scholarships.
fanofzoo said:
Of course, what was I thinking. 3 first time starters in the secondary should never make a mistake the first game with nerves and excitement and trying to make a play. We should come out of fall camp in playoff form.
Don't get me wrong. I didn't like getting beat deep that often on Saturday either. I just think you need to realize these are young men learning on the fly and trying their hardest. Give them a chance to get better. They will.
The easiest part of 3-deep zone is getting back, and having the discipline to get back, to cover the deepest receiver (in your zone or adjacent zone). This is the first responsibility of 3-deep; it's designed to take away the deep ball. This part of 3-deep zone is about as hard as showing up on time to play the game. Other parts of zone are harder, like being able to make the right decisions to cover the deep seams and receivers coming from adjacent zones, or to get good at reacting at the right time to come up to cover the shorter routes (without goofing up and letting a receiver get open deep).
I don't know what the communication problems were. I suppose they could have involved changing the coverage to a 3 deep or something like that. If the defender doesn't know or realize that he's supposed to be in 3 deep coverage, then obviously that's a huge problem.
Generally, in zone coverage, the defenders line up a bit deeper or creep back at the snap, and then start to back pedal immediately. If a receiver starts to approach the defender (who is still back pedaling), then the defender needs to turn and run deeper several steps before the receiver gets to the defender. It isn't hard to do this physically; it's harder mentally, at least for some. I never found it hard mentally either, as I knew my first responsibility was to get deep--not jump a shorter route or support against the run.
I don't know what the communication problems were. I suppose they could have involved changing the coverage to a 3 deep or something like that. If the defender doesn't know or realize that he's supposed to be in 3 deep coverage, then obviously that's a huge problem.
Generally, in zone coverage, the defenders line up a bit deeper or creep back at the snap, and then start to back pedal immediately. If a receiver starts to approach the defender (who is still back pedaling), then the defender needs to turn and run deeper several steps before the receiver gets to the defender. It isn't hard to do this physically; it's harder mentally, at least for some. I never found it hard mentally either, as I knew my first responsibility was to get deep--not jump a shorter route or support against the run.
spsyk said:
Stupid comment. Not all great players need or have scholarships. You do understand that not only the Pioneer, but Ivy League schools also do not offer athletic scholarships. And there are some pretty damn good Ivy League schools. And the Pioneer is an upcoming league. USD beat CalPoly last year....in the playoffs.
Hawkeyebowhunter
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Ringneck said:
Big time failure on Semore's part. Line wasn't getting effective pressure and the secondary wasn't doing their job......why keep in a cover 3 when doing so is going to exploit those two facets of the game that were playing themselves out right in front of everyone????
krammer said:
Exactly why I said high school kids can do this....thr fact that college players can't stay between goal line and the player in 3 is inexcusable. Their has to be a reason....either coached that can't get calls in on time, players that don't listen to coaches or think they are above doing their job and want to be heroes. Team game, play like a team....and coaches get the communication in on time
horribilisfan8184
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PlayerRep said:
Like the Valpo's safety jumping the outside receiver route leaving the inside receiver unguarded for the easy Griz TD in 2nd quarter. Should they fire their DC over that blown coverage by a starter?
ordigger said:
We'll help me to understand, we have fifty plus athletes that are give scholarships for their athletic prowess, and they should not be a step above the academic scholarships given to non scholarship schools
Then to use your term, isn't it stupid for a university to offer athletic scholarships, because with just academic scholarship and walk on's should be able to compete with parity.
horribilisfan8184
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spsyk said:
96% of Valpo students get financial assistance and the first year average is $32K+ .
https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/valparaiso-university/paying-for-college/financial-aid/
Looks like non-scholarship students compete for academic financial aid on the same basis as all other students. (eg Drake.):
According to Drake’s online cost calculator, a student with a 3.0 GPA and a score of 24 on the ACT will receive an estimated $10,000 scholarship. That’s enough to negate almost a fourth of Drake’s total annual cost of $43,292.
“I had good grades in high school and that definitely helped once I applied and got a scholarship here academically,” Rice said. “Without it, I don’t know if it would be possible to be here.”
Rice had to find other ways to pay for college, too. He worked during the offseason, either quitting his job or taking time off once spring practice arrived. This fall was the first time he worked during the season. He was only enrolled in one class, so working 12-17 hours a week at Business Solver in West Des Moines while in season was doable.
“I still feel extremely busy all the time,” Rice said.
The Presidential Scholarship wasn’t enough for Dismond, so he applied to the Crew Scholars program, a program for students of color that awards scholarships and grants that cover at least 50 percent of a student’s tuition. From the purely numerical aspect, the Crew scholarship equals a partial-ride football scholarship at another school.
“I had to go through the application just like the same as everyone else,” Dismond said. “I wasn’t guaranteed anything. Once I got that, that helped a lot. That’s probably a big reason why I’m here today.”
http://timesdelphic.com/2015/12/17/no-scholarships-no-problem
alabamagrizzly
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reinell30 said:
Well we're going on 24 now. Ask Blaine McEllmurry about a certain deep ball against Delaware in '93. I'd bet he can still see it. Course '95 probably helped erase the pain of the memory a bit.
spsyk said:
Well some kids are rich...and don't need scholarships at all. Just because someone gets an athletic scholarship doesn't means they are head and shoulders above one that does. Who knows would motivates kids to go play for certain schools.
However if I got an athletic scholarship to say Western Michigan, and an academic one to Harvard - I'm pretty certain that is a pretty dang easy choice to make, which I would pick.
