#BullStitt

[spsyk]

Stitt is still on top.

Bobby was simply a maintainer and not a great coach. He rated out about a C+
Did a bad job at UNLV. Very bad in fact. Why would we want him back? Better than Delaney but that is all!

Pease would have a far better team than Bobby in all aspects! Yeah I'd take Pease.

I favor Stitt. Why? He is a genius when it comes to football. He is new exciting and is far and away better than any of the coaches we are talking about!

I don’t know that BH maintained any better that MD.

In the three years of MD tenure, his first year less than stellar, however with the circumstances I give him some slack, although the second two, 1and 1 against the Cats, and made the playoffs.

With that said MD wouldn’t be my choice, as a HC although other coaching positions were just fine.

Using the term genius for Stitt is very generous, considering until the Griz showed some interest, you probably, never heard of him.

If he is the genius that you claim, i doubt very much he would have spent 15 years at a DII school, someone would have seen his genius long before this.

Others have seen it...but he has chosen to wait until the best opportunity comes along where he feels he can best succeed...that's also genius. And ballsy. Just like his play calling...
I dig him...

One question, did you ever witness one of his games, to identify this genius, or are you making your assessment on here say.

 

[KingsValleyGriz]

For me my decision comes down to this.

1. Bobby has been here before and had darn good success. He did bring a level of cocky swager to the program and I personally felt in those days we had a chance of beating just about anyone, especially in WA Griz. I think with Bobby we get a know commodity. I believe if he came back to UM he would intend to stay and again instill a level of balance and longevity. Something that I still feel important. UM could offer a 3 year contract and if things are clicking and well extend it. If not well we are looking for another coach but more on our terms and Kent would hopefully have a list of candidates to work from. However I think Bobby would have success and could see him being with UM for years and years to come.

Pease concerns me some. He may surely spark the program and get Griz nation flying high. However I think Pease would be a short time coach. If he did well and had the Griz trucking I could see him gone in 3 to 5 years going to the FBS level as a head coach. Heck I would think in his mind if he had not landed a FBS head coaching job, he woukd look back to a coordinator position and make more money. We all know the UM job is just a spring board job for Pease.

Bob Stitt concerns me the most really. I still am stuck on why he would be at a DII school for so long if he was such a ground break with his offense. Something there just does not make sense. Bob has said he would like to see his offense against too level DI defenses. I assume too level means FBS teams. So assume Bobigjt even look at the UM job as a stepping stone as well. Maybe he is seeing that FBS is not come calling so if he could go to a program like UM and put up some insane numbers with better talent he might just get that FBS job. I could see Stitt being at UM for maybe 5 years.

Ty G is in a hard spot. He has shown great strides in his roll as D coordinator and I think his heart is with the Griz. He might just be to big a gamble to let the team slip back into that 500 type team. I don't think that is something that UM can afford right now. Ty could be a long term guy 7 plus years as I think he would need to prove and show a lot befor he got an FBS head coach job. More likely to get a D coordinator job first is my guess. I am one that hopes Ty remains once a hire is made. He might even be a good coach in waiting so to speak!

Baldwin not really a candidate but he would be wise to take UM job so he could show he could operate and handle the stresses put on him at a school with much more demanding fans, booster etc. If EWU slips back into mediocrity these fans will think man that was a great stretch and be happy and hope those days might return. If they don't oh well. If Beau was interested in the UM job and got it he would be gone in that 3 to 5 year time period as well.

I for one think what UM needs to build off of is a very solid base and continue to build and get back to a stable power year in and year. I also feel not worry having to worry that at any moment our coach gets plucked out from under us. I think that coach is Bobby Hauck. Bobby has seen the head coaching job at the FBS and knows UM is the best place to be. He knows the demands from fans, boosters and is ready to deliver I think. I think Bobby is the best candidate to get UM back to that program that when peope see the name Montana Grizzlies on there schedule they think " oh man we are going to get beat down".

 

[spsyk]

For me my decision comes down to this.

1. Bobby has been here before and had darn good success. He did bring a level of cocky swager to the program and I personally felt in those days we had a chance of beating just about anyone, especially in WA Griz. I think with Bobby we get a know commodity. I believe if he came back to UM he would intend to stay and again instill a level of balance and longevity. Something that I still feel important. UM could offer a 3 year contract and if things are clicking and well extend it. If not well we are looking for another coach but more on our terms and Kent would hopefully have a list of candidates to work from. However I think Bobby would have success and could see him being with UM for years and years to come.

Pease concerns me some. He may surely spark the program and get Griz nation flying high. However I think Pease would be a short time coach. If he did well and had the Griz trucking I could see him gone in 3 to 5 years going to the FBS level as a head coach. Heck I would think in his mind if he had not landed a FBS head coaching job, he woukd look back to a coordinator position and make more money. We all know the UM job is just a spring board job for Pease.

Bob Stitt concerns me the most really. I still am stuck on why he would be at a DII school for so long if he was such a ground break with his offense. Something there just does not make sense. Bob has said he would like to see his offense against too level DI defenses. I assume too level means FBS teams. So assume Bobigjt even look at the UM job as a stepping stone as well. Maybe he is seeing that FBS is not come calling so if he could go to a program like UM and put up some insane numbers with better talent he might just get that FBS job. I could see Stitt being at UM for maybe 5 years.

Ty G is in a hard spot. He has shown great strides in his roll as D coordinator and I think his heart is with the Griz. He might just be to big a gamble to let the team slip back into that 500 type team. I don't think that is something that UM can afford right now. Ty could be a long term guy 7 plus years as I think he would need to prove and show a lot befor he got an FBS head coach job. More likely to get a D coordinator job first is my guess. I am one that hopes Ty remains once a hire is made. He might even be a good coach in waiting so to speak!

Baldwin not really a candidate but he would be wise to take UM job so he could show he could operate and handle the stresses put on him at a school with much more demanding fans, booster etc. If EWU slips back into mediocrity these fans will think man that was a great stretch and be happy and hope those days might return. If they don't oh well. If Beau was interested in the UM job and got it he would be gone in that 3 to 5 year time period as well.

I for one think what UM needs to build off of is a very solid base and continue to build and get back to a stable power year in and year. I also feel not worry having to worry that at any moment our coach gets plucked out from under us. I think that coach is Bobby Hauck. Bobby has seen the head coaching job at the FBS and knows UM is the best place to be. He knows the demands from fans, boosters and is ready to deliver I think. I think Bobby is the best candidate to get UM back to that program that when peope see the name Montana Grizzlies on there schedule they think " oh man we are going to get beat down".

Great endorsement for BH, did you include a CC to Main Hall ?

BH could not get out of Montana fast enough, why do you thing he took a dead end job UNLV. Even BH is aware that he's not the Messiah and could not turn UNLV around.

What should be of concern to you, is that in BH final year at UNLV, his worse year, those were all his recruits.

About Pease, he asked for the job, and still has a job, known full well that a reduction in pay was imminent, BH does not have a job, will take a security blanket.

When Pease gets the job, I believe it will take more than a Wyoming, Utah State, UNLV to lure him away.

As for myself, either guy would be OK, I suspect BH has a Main Hall problem, and a performance problem at his last employment, so instead of returning to the old something new like Pease sounds good.

If BH is the next HC, why has it not been announced yet ? there is no conflict, he is out of a job, not preparing for a Bowl game.

At the UM there is recruiting that needs to be looked after and soon.

 

[tnt]

Actually, I suspect BH was believing his own Swagger when he went to UNLV thinking he built something at Montana, instead of maintaining it. Had he been successful at UNLV, he could have written his ticket anywhere. You have to admire his willingness to gamble his entire career on that move. Magic only happens once for most of these guys. Lookk wahat has happened to the great coaches who have come through here...... Basically nothing after they left.

Bobby is going to have to start his climb up the ladder again. I doubt for even briefly did KH consider Montana was the place to do it..

 

[NLGrizFan]

I can't see how anyone could choose Stitt over BH. I'm sure coach Stitt is a nice guy but there seems to be something missing. An offensive genius should be coaching in the FBS or NFL. Not NCAA DII. I don't buy it.

 

[62GRIZ]

I, too, would be OK with Pease - BUT I prefer Stitt. His personality is more dynamic and optimistic. He is a risk taker to most of us in that he thinks way outside the box. Stitt doesn't seem to see himself as a risk taker. It is just taking advantage of what the other teams are willing to give him for free or without much risk. He is very comfortable with doing what works to win. Self assurance is more than half the battle - swagger is not a negative. Successful football at any level today is being out front with change. Yesterday's football isn't going to work. What could Stitt accomplish with superior athletes? The Sky isn't the limit!

 

[NLGrizFan]

For me my decision comes down to this.

1. Bobby has been here before and had darn good success. He did bring a level of cocky swager to the program and I personally felt in those days we had a chance of beating just about anyone, especially in WA Griz. I think with Bobby we get a know commodity. I believe if he came back to UM he would intend to stay and again instill a level of balance and longevity. Something that I still feel important. UM could offer a 3 year contract and if things are clicking and well extend it. If not well we are looking for another coach but more on our terms and Kent would hopefully have a list of candidates to work from. However I think Bobby would have success and could see him being with UM for years and years to come.

Pease concerns me some. He may surely spark the program and get Griz nation flying high. However I think Pease would be a short time coach. If he did well and had the Griz trucking I could see him gone in 3 to 5 years going to the FBS level as a head coach. Heck I would think in his mind if he had not landed a FBS head coaching job, he woukd look back to a coordinator position and make more money. We all know the UM job is just a spring board job for Pease.

Bob Stitt concerns me the most really. I still am stuck on why he would be at a DII school for so long if he was such a ground break with his offense. Something there just does not make sense. Bob has said he would like to see his offense against too level DI defenses. I assume too level means FBS teams. So assume Bobigjt even look at the UM job as a stepping stone as well. Maybe he is seeing that FBS is not come calling so if he could go to a program like UM and put up some insane numbers with better talent he might just get that FBS job. I could see Stitt being at UM for maybe 5 years.

Ty G is in a hard spot. He has shown great strides in his roll as D coordinator and I think his heart is with the Griz. He might just be to big a gamble to let the team slip back into that 500 type team. I don't think that is something that UM can afford right now. Ty could be a long term guy 7 plus years as I think he would need to prove and show a lot befor he got an FBS head coach job. More likely to get a D coordinator job first is my guess. I am one that hopes Ty remains once a hire is made. He might even be a good coach in waiting so to speak!

Baldwin not really a candidate but he would be wise to take UM job so he could show he could operate and handle the stresses put on him at a school with much more demanding fans, booster etc. If EWU slips back into mediocrity these fans will think man that was a great stretch and be happy and hope those days might return. If they don't oh well. If Beau was interested in the UM job and got it he would be gone in that 3 to 5 year time period as well.

I for one think what UM needs to build off of is a very solid base and continue to build and get back to a stable power year in and year. I also feel not worry having to worry that at any moment our coach gets plucked out from under us. I think that coach is Bobby Hauck. Bobby has seen the head coaching job at the FBS and knows UM is the best place to be. He knows the demands from fans, boosters and is ready to deliver I think. I think Bobby is the best candidate to get UM back to that program that when peope see the name Montana Grizzlies on there schedule they think " oh man we are going to get beat down".

Are you sure you're a new egrizzer? Nice Post!!

 

[Raider]

I think BH was aware of what to expect at the FBS level, he did spend some time there, although not as a HC.

I think the money difference between UNLV and UM, just blinded what laid ahead to be a success at UNLV.

You have to look back, UM took a chance on BH, and the fear of precedent is a worry for a chance for Stitt in lieu of Pease.

Hmmm. I'm listening. Who do you like?

I think Brent Pease is the next HC

I think you are correct. It seems he will be the compromise between the Hauck faction and the Stitt faction.

No, it is Stitt.

Interesting question for you though. Since you said you would be in favor of Stitt, and he is the guy, will you finally drop the act.

Somehow I doubt it.

 

[get'em_griz]

Those who are questioning Stitt's reasoning for staying at the DII level for so long when he's supposedly this offensive genius is like people questioning why Bobby Hauck would ever want to go back to coaching at Montana... Sometimes coaches make decisions for personal reasons rather than career reasons. Stitt has a family he has to think of too, and they very well could have been comfortable in Colorado. I see that being a more likely scenario than anything, just because I have the same view about family over career. Now the time might be right and he wants to move and coach a DI school, which is exactly what UM is. And if the plan is for Montana to move up to the next subdivision, maybe Stitt will be the coach to lead the Griz to that level. Whatever the scenario is, Stitt would do a fine job at UM.

 

[grizindabox]

Hmmm. I'm listening. Who do you like?

I think Brent Pease is the next HC

I think you are correct. It seems he will be the compromise between the Hauck faction and the Stitt faction.

No, it is Stitt.

Interesting question for you though. Since you said you would be in favor of Stitt, and he is the guy, will you finally drop the act.

Somehow I doubt it.

What act?

 

[AZDoc]

I think Brent Pease is the next HC

I think you are correct. It seems he will be the compromise between the Hauck faction and the Stitt faction.

No, it is Stitt.

Interesting question for you though. Since you said you would be in favor of Stitt, and he is the guy, will you finally drop the act.

Somehow I doubt it.

What act?

I think referring to your continuous bullstitt

 

[Silvertip]

If the collegiate coaching world took the advice of the sage experts on egriz nobody would ever hire a coach out of a lower classification. How inane is that? Poor Chip Kelly would still be patrolling the sidelines at New Hampshire...but wait! We do have Bobby H making a semi-convincing argument for the other side... zzzzzzz

 

[Umista]

Coach Leach from Washington State, previously from Texas Tech thinks Stitt is a great football genius and has tried to get him to come as an offensive coach for his team. Leach knows Stitt has a great mind and uses some of his plays. Stitt has told him he will not leave his home and is waiting for the right time and place. Mentioned he wants to be a head coach not an offensive coach for others.

First of all many ADs are afraid to hire Stitt because he is far out of the box. Likes to pass when a run is called for and vise versa. He attempts many fourth down plays and has a mind of his own. Is not a follower of others and coaches kids to make them think and not react as most coaches do. Teaching kids to think? What a novel idea and at a school no less.

I did visit with a retired head coach that is very big on Stitt. He smiled at me and said "if he coaches at Montana it will be the perfect fit for him and the Griz"

If we do get this guy expect excitement and football thrills we haven't watched since Don Read was coaching! Bob Stitt, a coach Umista hopes will be the man!

With Stitt I am thinking we might be able to keep a few of our present coaching staff and that may cause a cool transition for the players.

 

[Griz Time]

So your are OK with Pease using the Montana job as a springboard to a higher profile job but for Stitt it is a red flag? And don't you for a second think that Pease would not leave if the opportunity presented itself...you sure like having different standards for different guys...

Everyone is different. Not 2 are alike. Stitt is a lil troll under a log. Keep him outta Montana.

You are a piece of work NL. You want to call the guy a troll and you know absolutely nothing about him...sounds to me like you have exhausted any valid argument and have exposed your 8 year old self and went straight to name calling...you going to start throwing rocks next?

How bout this? Go f*** yourself. :finger: I see you talking to a lot of people on here and treating them like shit. You're a f***[*] tool and have Zero credibility on anything. You can't even keep your story straight. You said t
You wanted Stitt cuz he was gonna hang around cuz he was at CSM for 15 years. Then you say it's ok for him to go if he wants to use Montana as a stepping stone. And that's not even the start of your useless thought process. Not to mention you send just wanna f*** with people on here to piss em off. Go f*** yourself Cat fan. I'm not wasting any more time on you because it's a lost cause. f*** you, and f*** Stitt. That outta piss off your Obama loving ass. I can tell you're a liberal cuz if someone says something that you don't agree with you get all pissed off and wanna cry all over everything. Now get your ass over to the corner and cry or shut the f*** up.

Not really sure why your synapses aren't firing on all cylinders but okay, I'll bite.
You recruit momentum, period. Bobby has lost it. For you, it's like you're living in 1974 and all of a sudden think the Gremlin is a great thing. Except in 1979 Bobby turned in tarnished keys and left with no rubber on the wheels. Now you want to buy back the Gremlin that was so cool to you 5 years ago, except the world has moved on. So keep your mullet and keep sucking OPEC, we'll be okay without you, or your Gremlin
Who the fuck are you to say a DII coach can or can't make it here? He's got some pretty big coaches in his corner and that should count a little more than clever sentences either you or I can type out.
You don't reel in top flight recruits like we have in the pipeline by offering them a has been. Sorry, recruits not only don't want to see a loser at a lowly fbs school, they don't want bobby ball 3 times up the gut every damn series of downs.
Get with the times Pappy, the Trans Am is way cooler than the Gremlin you so love.

 

[gotgame75]

For all those questioning Stitt because he has been stuck at the DII level for 15 years, keep in mind that Chip Kelly was an assistant at New Hampshire for 13 years! Sometimes circumstance supercedes talent.

 

[grzz]

For all those questioning Stitt because he has been stuck at the DII level for 15 years, keep in mind that Chip Kelly was an assistant at New Hampshire for 13 years! Sometimes circumstance supercedes talent.

And Brian Kelly was sub D1 for 13 years at the same school...

 

[get'em_griz]

I think we may have hit the gold mine in getting Stitt. :thumb:

 

[bigkid]

He was not my first pick but if in fact true I'm behind him 100%. Will be fun talking about fly sweep, the type of players etc.....

 

[Oline Coach]

For all those questioning Stitt because he has been stuck at the DII level for 15 years, keep in mind that Chip Kelly was an assistant at New Hampshire for 13 years! Sometimes circumstance supercedes talent.

And Brian Kelly was sub D1 for 13 years at the same school...

Big difference, he won National titles at Grand Valley State, two of them. In his 13 seasons at GVS, he won five conference titles and went to the playoffs six times. He was 41-2 in the last three seasons there and 11-4 in the playoffs.....big difference.

 

[get'em_griz]

He was not my first pick but if in fact true I'm behind him 100%. Will be fun talking about fly sweep, the type of players etc.....

After learning about Stitt and how his offensive style helped West Virginia put up 70 on Clemson, I'm also behind him 100%. It'll be exciting to see his offense here at Montana.