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Brett Favre

Re/MaxGriz said:
Ahem, once again, what NFC player did more this last weekend to win a game than Brett Favre?

- None.

Go Pack!

Adrian Peterson ring a bell?

Set an all time NFL record?

Shredded a defense everyone thinks has mucho talent on it?

Just sayin
 
Bozgriz said:
Re/MaxGriz said:
Ahem, once again, what NFC player did more this last weekend to win a game than Brett Favre?

- None.

Go Pack!

Tony Romo

Incorrect!

Tony Romo has a running game to help him with Julius Jones and Marion Barber IIIIIIII. Look at this:

Jones/Barber combined: 888 yards and 8 rushing TDs

Entire Packers running game: 574 and 5 TDs. And 203 of those yards and 4 of those TDs came from DeShaun Wynn who is out for the season. The Pack's current starting RB is their 4th string guy in Ryan Grant

So Green Bay only has 1 rushing TD from an active player, Dallas has 8.

Also, Romo to Favre head-to-head:

Favre, 93.3 rating, 2406 yards, 66.6% completion, 13 TDs / 8 Ints
Romo, 100.4 rating, 2306 yards, 64.4% completion, 19 TDs / 10 Ints

A close call, again look at the supporting cast, Favre has 1 veteran, a 2nd year player, a rookie and an emerging TE to throw to. Romo has three veterans in TO, Crayton and Whitten. Romo's got two pro-bowlers to Favre's one (although a case could be made for Jennings as well as Driver).

Also at the schedules Romo has had 6 matchups against easier/weaker teams on defense (Miami, Chicago, StL, Buffalo, Minnesota, Phily) and only 2 games against teams with tough defenses (NE & NYG)

Meanwhile Favre has had to play 3 games against teams with easier/weaker defenses (Phily, Minn, Chicago) and 5 against temas with better defenses (NYG, San Diego, Wash, Denver, KC).

I think it'll balance out, the Pack has games still against Minnesota, 2 against Detroit, Carolina, StL & Oakland - all teams with defenses that aren't that great.
 
I'm a huge Cowboy fan, but I'd have to agree with Re/Max here. The two-headed monster in the backfield is causing Romo to live in the land of pleasant dreams.

But you want a clutch quarterback? Try Gunnar Esiason on for size. Here's a kid with cystic fibrosis and leads his team to a late score. Sure, his team didn't win (it was garbage time when he went in). But the way he got his team down the field and into the end zone made me think of that autistic kid last year who went off for 20 in the last four minutes of a hoops game.
 
Just because this thread needs to be kept on top, Pack now 10 - 1, Farve another 70% plus, 3TD day.

Go Pack, Brett for MVP!
 
and Romo sets Cowboy's team record for TD passes for a season with 5 games to go...

10-1 as well...

Good matchup coming up next Thursday-
 
Bozgriz said:
and Romo sets Cowboy's team record for TD passes for a season with 5 games to go...

10-1 as well...

Good matchup coming up next Thursday-

Farve is the man. I hope the Pack puts it to the Cowboys. I hate that whiney ass TO!
 
Favre is definitely in my top 5. He has had some wonderful years, and some bad ones when he simply tried to do too much.

I wouldn't include Aikman, simply because of all of the weapons he had around him.

I would include Brady. He has won Super Bowls without any superstar running partner, to this point. Now that he has one, look at what he is doing.

My others would be Elway (although I absolutely hate the Broncos), Marino (although never even getting his team back to the Super Bowl is a knock on him), and Montana. Bradshaw has to get some serious consideration. Steve Young was very good, but too much of a whiner for me.

And this year, Favre gets MVP. End of questions.
 
Favre's having a great year, but the win streak stops next week against Dallas. Won't be much more than a speed bump for the Pack, though. They'll probably meet again in the NFC Championship Game.

But Favre for MVP? There's probably a better argument for Driver as MVP. (OK, maybe not. I just wanted to get your goat. ;-) )
 
It takes way more than that to get a Packer fan's goat. Remember, between about 67 and 96, there were a LOT of lean years.
 
grizpack said:
It takes way more than that to get a Packer fan's goat. Remember, between about 67 and 96, there were a LOT of lean years.

I enjoyed the John Brockington years. Didn't make the Super Bowl but they were a brief reprieve from being just plain bad or mediocre.
 
You're quite right about those "lean" years. Proof right there that a "starr" quarterback doesn't make for a great coach.

Of course, one could look to Bob Waterfield and Norm Van Brocklin for the same idea. Not just Packers proving that.
 
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