Bobby's Press Release

[poorgriz]

Griz are better at multiple position groups. For example, o-line, running back, receiver, linebacker, safety, probably corner. Maybe more.

Griz aren't going to get crushed in meaningful games, but Cats will. See SDSU and UM games, for example.

I'm talking about this season, not last season. You are living in the past.

I call BS on the Cats going to be better in those areas. Running back, what a joke.

I don't believe MSU led the nation in rushing. Report back to us.

Again, Griz o-line is better and deeper than the Cats'. You aren't paying attention to the Griz. You are just spouting your normal nonsense.

I heard the passing attack was struggling. Your qb's can't throw the ball, for one.

The Griz will beat the Cats this year.

LOL :thumb: Ok, you keep thinking all that and we'll see how things shake out. Cats will absolutely be better at RB. Finally healthy and don't have to start a fifth stringer. Lane Sumner was tearing it up in the first game last season, then got injured, out for season. Jarod White came in, got injured, out for the season. Ifanse and Williams were injured earlier, so 5th string Elliot came in and tore it up. He's back.... but 3rd or 4th in depth chart behind Sumner, Wisconsin transfer Davis, and White is back and might be ahead of Elliot. Oh then we have White behind all of them... and a couple true Freshmen that flashed. This is in an offense with an upgraded OL (Upgraded from a line that was already one of the best in the country). Oh, QBs, blocking TE's and WRs, FB, all improved too. Cats ended up averaging 311 yard rushing per game. I think that was tops in the country, unless a pure option team or something was higher than that. Also, whoever told you the MSU passing attack was struggling, didn't know what they were talking about. Mellott, Chambers, and Reed have all taken a step forward. Defense is improved all around as well. Anyway, get ready to sit back and watch the show!!!

One more bump. I'm not much of a bragging type person, but I am right about a lot of the things I post on here. Sadly though, every time I try to provide you information and open your eyes about how much better the Cat program is than the griz program today, I just get laughed at, called a troll, doesn't understand the game, etc.

 

[poorgriz]

I know you really want to believe the griz are as good or better than the Cats at all position groups but that's just not reality. As I've stated numerous times, I'm here trying to help you guys. I know how painful it can be to expect great things from your team only to watch them get crushed in the meaningful games again. The Cats are just at a different talent and depth level from the griz right now. That will all become clear as the season plays out. I chuckle at all the griz fans bragging about how good and deep you are at OL and RB. Did you watch the Cat\Griz game last year and how outmatched the griz were in all areas? Well unfortunately for griz nation, the Cats are going to be better at literally every position group, especially OL, RB, and QB. Last season MSU trotted out a bunch of brand new, unproven, undersized, Sophomore and Freshmen starters on the OL, and due to season ending injuries had to start the fifth string running back (Elijah Elliot) by the 2nd game of the season. They still led the nation in rushing. Finally got all the RBs back and healthy, and are now inserting Wisconsin transfer Julius Davis into the mix. Last year's full time starter Elliot is 't even on the two deep because of how good and deep the RB room is. Some of last year's starter studs and all conference picks on the OL have been passed up (barely) by better players. So if you want to talk about depth, the Bobcat OL is likely the best and deepest it's ever been, 11 or 12 players that are legit proven D1 starters, and with all conference caliber players riding the pine. Couple all that with a legitimate new and improved passing attack, and I just don't know how teams are going to be able to stop it.

Make believe is fun

So is reality.

 

[Allezchat]

LOL :thumb: Ok, you keep thinking all that and we'll see how things shake out. Cats will absolutely be better at RB. Finally healthy and don't have to start a fifth stringer. Lane Sumner was tearing it up in the first game last season, then got injured, out for season. Jarod White came in, got injured, out for the season. Ifanse and Williams were injured earlier, so 5th string Elliot came in and tore it up. He's back.... but 3rd or 4th in depth chart behind Sumner, Wisconsin transfer Davis, and White is back and might be ahead of Elliot. Oh then we have White behind all of them... and a couple true Freshmen that flashed. This is in an offense with an upgraded OL (Upgraded from a line that was already one of the best in the country). Oh, QBs, blocking TE's and WRs, FB, all improved too. Cats ended up averaging 311 yard rushing per game. I think that was tops in the country, unless a pure option team or something was higher than that. Also, whoever told you the MSU passing attack was struggling, didn't know what they were talking about. Mellott, Chambers, and Reed have all taken a step forward. Defense is improved all around as well. Anyway, get ready to sit back and watch the show!!!

One more bump. I'm not much of a bragging type person, but I am right about a lot of the things I post on here. Sadly though, every time I try to provide you information and open your eyes about how much better the Cat program is than the griz program today, I just get laughed at, called a troll, doesn't understand the game, etc.

This isn't a good look for you.

This is a pretty troll-y things to say:

"Sadly though, every time I try to provide you information and open your eyes about how much better the Cat program is than the griz program today"

 

[Allezchat]

CdA I'm a little disappointed in you. You couldn't come up with a way to equate double repping to double fishing beers by coaches. You're losing your edge man.

 

[uofmman1122]

One more bump. I'm not much of a bragging type person, but I am right about a lot of the things I post on here. Sadly though, every time I try to provide you information and open your eyes about how much better the Cat program is than the griz program today, I just get laughed at, called a troll, doesn't understand the game, etc.

This isn't a good look for you.

This is a pretty troll-y things to say:

"Sadly though, every time I try to provide you information and open your eyes about how much better the Cat program is than the griz program today"

Cut him some slack. In some ways he's earned this by telling us every year from 2006-2009 that we'd go 6-5 on here. He's had to deal with a lot of being absolutely fucking wrong on here for decades. :lol:

 

[Fahque]

As far as press conferences go, why can't Bobby talk x's and o's like this…

https://www.montanasports.com/sports/big-sky-conference/montana-state-bobcats/montana-state-football-week-5-press-conference-with-coach-brent-vigen-and-players

I don't think in doing so he is giving away any team secrets and he might actually be able to connect with fans… But alas, I doubt the day will ever come

 

[Otis77]

I suppose tomorrow's coaches show will just be a bunch of softball questions? Grow some balls Media!

BTW how many unassisted tackles does the transfer DE have? Another example of a wasted out of state scholarship JHC!

 

[CatsRback]

I know you really want to believe the griz are as good or better than the Cats at all position groups but that's just not reality. As I've stated numerous times, I'm here trying to help you guys. I know how painful it can be to expect great things from your team only to watch them get crushed in the meaningful games again. The Cats are just at a different talent and depth level from the griz right now. That will all become clear as the season plays out. I chuckle at all the griz fans bragging about how good and deep you are at OL and RB. Did you watch the Cat\Griz game last year and how outmatched the griz were in all areas? Well unfortunately for griz nation, the Cats are going to be better at literally every position group, especially OL, RB, and QB. Last season MSU trotted out a bunch of brand new, unproven, undersized, Sophomore and Freshmen starters on the OL, and due to season ending injuries had to start the fifth string running back (Elijah Elliot) by the 2nd game of the season. They still led the nation in rushing. Finally got all the RBs back and healthy, and are now inserting Wisconsin transfer Julius Davis into the mix. Last year's full time starter Elliot is 't even on the two deep because of how good and deep the RB room is. Some of last year's starter studs and all conference picks on the OL have been passed up (barely) by better players. So if you want to talk about depth, the Bobcat OL is likely the best and deepest it's ever been, 11 or 12 players that are legit proven D1 starters, and with all conference caliber players riding the pine. Couple all that with a legitimate new and improved passing attack, and I just don't know how teams are going to be able to stop it.

Griz are better at multiple position groups. For example, o-line, running back, receiver, linebacker, safety, probably corner. Maybe more.

Total offense: MSU 2 / UM outside top 50
https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fcs/current/team/21

Total defense: MSU 13 / UM 33 https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fcs/current/team/21

Griz aren't going to get crushed in meaningful games, but Cats will. See SDSU and UM games, for example.

https://406mtsports.com/college/big-sky-conference/montana-state-university/montana-state-south-dakota-state-football-game/article_3448047e-4f7b-11ee-a048-33803db5ab4b.amp.html

I'm talking about this season, not last season. You are living in the past.

I call BS on the Cats going to be better in those areas. Running back, what a joke.

Julius Davis is in this. Sumner, white, are just better as well.
https://herosports.com/fcs-2023-pff-highest-graded-players-4-bzbz/

I don't believe MSU led the nation in rushing. Report back to us.

Reporting back. Going well so far. Played the #1 and #10 FCS team already! Still leading…

https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fcs/current/team/23

Again, Griz o-line is better and deeper than the Cats'. You aren't paying attention to the Griz. You are just spouting your normal nonsense.

Omar from MSU in this.

https://herosports.com/fcs-2023-pff-highest-graded-players-4-bzbz/

https://bigskyconf.com/stats.aspx?path=football&year=2023

I heard the passing attack was struggling. Your qb's can't throw the ball, for one.

https://bigskyconf.com/stats.aspx?path=football&year=2023

https://www.montanasports.com/sports/big-sky-conference/montana-state-bobcats/montana-state-qb-sean-chambers-garners-big-sky-conference-player-of-the-week-nod


The Griz will beat the Cats this year.

Ok I like it, Picasso

*this isn’t a bump for egris, it’s a bump for MTHoops so he can stop being a nimrod posing as a narcissist.

 

[Bear Spray]

poorgriz wrote: ↑Fri Sep 01, 2023 12:27 pm
mthoopsfan wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:09 pm


Griz are better at multiple position groups. For example, o-line, running back, receiver, linebacker, safety, probably corner. Maybe more.

Griz aren't going to get crushed in meaningful games, but Cats will. See SDSU and UM games, for example.

I'm talking about this season, not last season. You are living in the past.

I call BS on the Cats going to be better in those areas. Running back, what a joke.

I don't believe MSU led the nation in rushing. Report back to us.

Again, Griz o-line is better and deeper than the Cats'. You aren't paying attention to the Griz. You are just spouting your normal nonsense.

I heard the passing attack was struggling. Your qb's can't throw the ball, for one.

The Griz will beat the Cats this year.

LOL :thumb: Ok, you keep thinking all that and we'll see how things shake out. Cats will absolutely be better at RB. Finally healthy and don't have to start a fifth stringer. Lane Sumner was tearing it up in the first game last season, then got injured, out for season. Jarod White came in, got injured, out for the season. Ifanse and Williams were injured earlier, so 5th string Elliot came in and tore it up. He's back.... but 3rd or 4th in depth chart behind Sumner, Wisconsin transfer Davis, and White is back and might be ahead of Elliot. Oh then we have White behind all of them... and a couple true Freshmen that flashed. This is in an offense with an upgraded OL (Upgraded from a line that was already one of the best in the country). Oh, QBs, blocking TE's and WRs, FB, all improved too. Cats ended up averaging 311 yard rushing per game. I think that was tops in the country, unless a pure option team or something was higher than that. Also, whoever told you the MSU passing attack was struggling, didn't know what they were talking about. Mellott, Chambers, and Reed have all taken a step forward. Defense is improved all around as well. Anyway, get ready to sit back and watch the show!!!

One more bump. I'm not much of a bragging type person, but I am right about a lot of the things I post on here. Sadly though, every time I try to provide you information and open your eyes about how much better the Cat program is than the griz program today, I just get laughed at, called a troll, doesn't understand the game, etc.

I was thinking about this bs post from hoopster today, thanks for the reminder. Hoops, keep on chugging your Kool-Aid. Maybe Northern Arizona is better than Weber too!

 

[Bear Spray]

I don’t think what is said at press conferences matter at all in terms of winning or losing games, do you?

In terms of double repping, I think it definitely has some value, and Bobby has done it at times. You know it’s typically a spring ball and fall camp thing though right? I highly highly highly doubt the cats are double repping during game week. Unless you are referring to scout looks, in which case everyone in the country is double repping including the Griz.

I also doubt that Bobby will do much of changing, right, wrong, or indifferent.

Am I missing something, what I know as double-repping is a weightlifting method? And what is being said is that it’s the reason they have such depth. Strength is a great thing, no doubt. You can build that, for guys who know how to play. Even on the lines, there’s a hell of a lot more to being able to play than brute strength.

And Bozeman sure as hell doesn’t overpower anyone. They get to a spot quickly and only have to hold it long enough to allow the plus one back to get by. We’ll see how well they do when the QB isn’t as big a part of the run game. Which has to occur if coach sixx is really playing chess.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Did you watch Cat/Griz last year? The Cats overpowered Weebs and went toe to toe with SDSU. You're right though, MSU isn't trying to overpower teams, but it's happening this season. Both lines are significantly better than last year - a year where they set a program record for rushing with their first 5 running backs out injured for a large part of the season. Like it or not, MSU is now a national power and is being included in conversations about the best programs - SDSU, NDSU, MSU. Watch the Weebs game and focus on the lines. Then look at the box score - Chambers was 8/17 with 2 td's. If that were Vidlak the Griz would have beaten NAZ.

 

[Bear Spray]

Ifanse was back at the end of the year. He was one of the 2 best in the conference. The Cats are not better at rb. My info on the Cat passing game comes from several large and longtime MSU boosters. I have much better MSU sources than you do. The Cats don't have great receivers. What great receivers want to play for a running team?We will see if the MSU qb's and offense can sustain the very good running attack. I think defenses will catch up to stopping it. It wasn't good in every game, although was very good in most games.

Is defense and ST part of football, or is that not true at MSU?

MSU was 2d in rushing last season.

Defenses will adjust to the Cats offense this year, which is probably why they are desperate for some kind of passing game. Cant keep rushing the ball every game - every year. Best analogy I can think of, is when a MLB pitcher has to go through a lineup for the 3rd time, many struggle. That combined with how poorly Cats traditionally struggle on the road does not set this year up to be great. No doubt they will be good, but unless they can add to their offensive game plan, it will be a struggle more this year, as defenses wise up.I expect to see them lose 3+ games this year.

Naaa, defenses knew what MSU was doing last year, and the year before, and before that, yet only the very best in the nation could stop them. NDSU isn't exactly known for throwing the rock, yet they managed to win a couple of titles. SDSU can throw it, but they're also a power running team. You're right - MSU needs to throw at least enough to keep the D from stacking the box. If you haven't, watch the Weebs game. The play action just killed them. This isn't flash in the pan, MSU's built a program that's getting better each year since Choate in 2016. UM will rebuild, but it will take some time, patience, and significant changes....

 

[Bear Spray]

Did you watch the Cats? Changing your mind at all? Still think the Cats aren”t really, really good and deep at RB, OL, and QB? Still think they don’t have a good passing game? It is already good and will only get better when we get our best receivers in there.

My view hasn’t changed. Wouldn’t want those 3 groups of yours. 22 has some potential. The QB’s are good but don’t fit our offense. Same with o-line.

Changed your opinion yet, or are you that deaf, dumb and blind kid? Maybe pinball's your game.

 

[Bear Spray]

fudge no I didn't watch the bubs. Why the hell would I?

Yes they have a good run game. No, they can't throw it worth poop. Absolutely no idea on their depth, and care even less.

Everett, if you'd watch the Weebs game or the SDSU game you'd have a better idea of the gap between the MT programs. It's night and day. Maybe Bobby will rally the team, but man, I just don't see it happening. Look at where Sac, Idaho, Weebs, Davis, & the Cats are. Watch the Idaho/Sac game. Hell, if I can see the difference you surely can.

 

[Ut-Grizfan]

fudge no I didn't watch the bubs. Why the hell would I?

Yes they have a good run game. No, they can't throw it worth poop. Absolutely no idea on their depth, and care even less.

Everett, if you'd watch the Weebs game or the SDSU game you'd have a better idea of the gap between the MT programs. It's night and day. Maybe Bobby will rally the team, but man, I just don't see it happening. Look at where Sac, Idaho, Weebs, Davis, & the Cats are. Watch the Idaho/Sac game. Hell, if I can see the difference you surely can.

Unless this team/coaching staff somehow wakes up and turns it around i'm seeing at best we will be 6-5 and missing the playoffs.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

CdA I'm a little disappointed in you. You couldn't come up with a way to equate double repping to double fishing beers by coaches. You're losing your edge man.

I guess I just don’t know what double fishing beers means.

 

[kemajic]

Naaa, defenses knew what MSU was doing last year, and the year before, and before that, yet only the very best in the nation could stop them.

So you're admitting that the 2021 UM team was one of the very best in the nation. Let's record that. Click, save.

 

[ilovethecats]

CdA I'm a little disappointed in you. You couldn't come up with a way to equate double repping to double fishing beers by coaches. You're losing your edge man.

I guess I just don’t know what double fishing beers means.

:lol:

 

[Bear Spray]

Naaa, defenses knew what MSU was doing last year, and the year before, and before that, yet only the very best in the nation could stop them.

So you're admitting that the 2021 UM team was one of the very best in the nation. Let's record that. Click, save.

Close Kem. The UM Defensive unit was outstanding that year, one of the best units in the country. The Griz were the better team that day. That loss forced the Cats to go a different direction on offense. We all know the results, but it was that loss that made coach Vigen start a freshman qb who was willing to run the ball instead of the more experienced qb with playoff experience and wins. (McKay of course quit) Cat fans actually owe Bobby thanks for that loss. Without the qb change I doubt the Cats would have gone to Frisco.

Kem, the Cats have tweaked the offense since then and have a full stable of O lineman & running backs. They're much better now than then. The Griz appear to be running the same D, but are not the dominant unit they were that year. What are your thoughts on that - is it recruiting, is it other teams catching up? I don't know the answer & hope you can shed some light.

 

[IdahoGrizFan]

I see we took a turn somewhere.

So Bobby said there was something wrong and it needed fixed. So does anyone know if it is fixed? In the Spoksman he was quoted as saying we made a lot of little mistakes the whole game. That doesn’t sound like he is looking for any major changes. I didn’t read through all this, just asking a question so please don’t throw things at me.

 

[Bear Spray]

One more bump. I'm not much of a bragging type person, but I am right about a lot of the things I post on here. Sadly though, every time I try to provide you information and open your eyes about how much better the Cat program is than the griz program today, I just get laughed at, called a troll, doesn't understand the game, etc.

This isn't a good look for you.

This is a pretty troll-y things to say:

"Sadly though, every time I try to provide you information and open your eyes about how much better the Cat program is than the griz program today"

Can we agree that Hoopster's comments were trolling? If not, can we agree he's blind?