Bobby Hauck (let's not derail it)

[GrizGrad2010]

Just for the record, I have definite knowledge that BH's resignation at UNLV was one that was forced by the school and/or BoR. He did NOT resign in order to apply for the job opening at UoM. Just wanted to clear-up any of those thoughts, which were uttered in previous posts.

 

[BelierPeaux]

I can't believe the amount of people running around at the game yesterday digging for inside dirt on Hauck (or anyone else related to the job.) R-E-L-A-X. The coaching job will work itself out whether you know an insider or not.

 

[PlayerRep]

Not that it's even news at this point, as enough people know enough people, but I was able to get in touch with someone very close to BH via e-mail late last night, and he said "Yes, Bobby is most definitely going to seek the UM job." Now, for those of you saying you KNOW he will NOT be the next Griz head coach, I'm assuming you mean you KNOW Haslam won't hire him? I won't pretend for one second to know what Kent Haslam is going to do with the job, but I DO KNOW FOR A FACT, Kent is not the type of Athletic Director, or person for that matter, to be running around Washington-Grizzly Stadium this afternoon telling fans that Bobby WON'T be the next head coach. Like I said, I have no IDEA who Kent will hire, I just know Bobby is applying, and I also KNOW Kent isn't running around publicly saying Bobby WON'T get the job.

THE question that I think HAS to be ANSWERED, is not whether KENT HASLAM will entertain THOUGHTS of bringing Bobby back, BUT will Royce ALLOW it to HAPPEN. IF he does, THEN he SHOULD allow RP to be HIRED back in SOME capacity.

Agree on Engstrom's involvement, but note that Engstrom fired Pflu but not Bobby.

Agreed, but as far as I can tell, RP's biggest crime was not sharing information that he knew right away with the administration.....which, if considered a firing offense, would seem to raise some concerns with the king, re: bobby.

With regard to RP and sharing information, UM admitted that it did not have a policy in place to require reporting in that situation. UM later amended its policy. That certainly wasn't a firing expense. Also, RP did not know the accuser was a student. Only that the police investigated and would not bring charges. The players were disciplined by him.

 

[mtgrizrule]

I can't believe the amount of people running around at the game yesterday digging for inside dirt on Hauck (or anyone else related to the job.) R-E-L-A-X. The coaching job will work itself out whether you know an insider or not.

Actually, for me it was a great subject to hear opinions beyond the die hard egrizzers. It was nice to hear what some of the general public think. I was actually surprised how many I heard say they would welcome back Hauck. Hauck is not hated by the general public as much as his non supporters on Egriz make it out to be. I heard way more positives about Hauck than I thought I would.

 

[UMGriz75]

Agreed, but as far as I can tell, RP's biggest crime was not sharing information that he knew right away with the administration.....which, if considered a firing offense, would seem to raise some concerns with the king, re: bobby.

Recall, the MPD told Pflugrad that they had a report, that they had investigated it, and had concluded that no crime had been committed and that charges would not be filed. At that time, an official investigation would have been the last word on the issue. I recall that by the time it got to Pflugrad, the incident was already over a year past.

Ordinarily, not spending time reporting crimes that were not committed would not be seen as unusual, except in the hyperpartisan atmosphere of collegiate athletics.

 

[AllWeatherFan]

Hello, and welcome to the Drama Queen thread!

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Not that it's even news at this point, as enough people know enough people, but I was able to get in touch with someone very close to BH via e-mail late last night, and he said "Yes, Bobby is most definitely going to seek the UM job." Now, for those of you saying you KNOW he will NOT be the next Griz head coach, I'm assuming you mean you KNOW Haslam won't hire him? I won't pretend for one second to know what Kent Haslam is going to do with the job, but I DO KNOW FOR A FACT, Kent is not the type of Athletic Director, or person for that matter, to be running around Washington-Grizzly Stadium this afternoon telling fans that Bobby WON'T be the next head coach. Like I said, I have no IDEA who Kent will hire, I just know Bobby is applying, and I also KNOW Kent isn't running around publicly saying Bobby WON'T get the job.

THE question that I think HAS to be ANSWERED, is not whether KENT HASLAM will entertain THOUGHTS of bringing Bobby back, BUT will Royce ALLOW it to HAPPEN. IF he does, THEN he SHOULD allow RP to be HIRED back in SOME capacity.

Love IT. I've BEEN waiting for SOMEONE to do THIS.

 

[fencer24]

If Bobby became the head coach, would he take Pflugrad as his offensive coordinator?

 

[UMGriz75]

Hello, and welcome to the Drama Queen thread!

A bit of irony, I am sure. The Barz Report could find no misconduct or misfeasance on the part of any UM coach or staff member. The MPD could find nothing to charge. She certainly did not mention Bobby Hauck. So, on the basis of "two" investigations, there was nothing there.

The Drama Queen in Main Hall, on the other hand, managed to make it all quite a career changer ... firings, national publicity, enrollment crash, budget cuts, local media vendetta and ... oh, the Saudi student got away. Somebody turned it into a "drama," that's for sure.

 

[Grizdad123]

I can't believe the amount of people running around at the game yesterday digging for inside dirt on Hauck (or anyone else related to the job.) R-E-L-A-X. The coaching job will work itself out whether you know an insider or not.

Actually, for me it was a great subject to hear opinions beyond the die hard egrizzers. It was nice to hear what some of the general public think. I was actually surprised how many I heard say they would welcome back Hauck. Hauck is not hated by the general public as much as his non supporters on Egriz make it out to be. I heard way more positives about Hauck than I thought I would.

You should hear what's going on behind the scenes. We get occasional updates, shared a comment in the John Z. thread

 

[stubbins]

THE question that I think HAS to be ANSWERED, is not whether KENT HASLAM will entertain THOUGHTS of bringing Bobby back, BUT will Royce ALLOW it to HAPPEN. IF he does, THEN he SHOULD allow RP to be HIRED back in SOME capacity.

Agree on Engstrom's involvement, but note that Engstrom fired Pflu but not Bobby.

Agreed, but as far as I can tell, RP's biggest crime was not sharing information that he knew right away with the administration.....which, if considered a firing offense, would seem to raise some concerns with the king, re: bobby.

With regard to RP and sharing information, UM admitted that it did not have a policy in place to require reporting in that situation. UM later amended its policy. That certainly wasn't a firing expense. Also, RP did not know the accuser was a student. Only that the police investigated and would not bring charges. The players were disciplined by him.

I agree with that completely. I just don't understand the comment of why RE would hold that against RP, but not have similar concerns about Bobby. FWIW, I think both men should be considered. I just think RE is going to have to take a hard look in the mirror if he allows one coach back, with not the best reputation of working with the university, and holding fast that the correct decision was made in firing the other.
I maintain that the biggest obstacle in Bobby coming back will have nothing to do with the applicant or the AD...

 

[AZGrizFan]

Not that it's even news at this point, as enough people know enough people, but I was able to get in touch with someone very close to BH via e-mail late last night, and he said "Yes, Bobby is most definitely going to seek the UM job." Now, for those of you saying you KNOW he will NOT be the next Griz head coach, I'm assuming you mean you KNOW Haslam won't hire him? I won't pretend for one second to know what Kent Haslam is going to do with the job, but I DO KNOW FOR A FACT, Kent is not the type of Athletic Director, or person for that matter, to be running around Washington-Grizzly Stadium this afternoon telling fans that Bobby WON'T be the next head coach. Like I said, I have no IDEA who Kent will hire, I just know Bobby is applying, and I also KNOW Kent isn't running around publicly saying Bobby WON'T get the job.

THE question that I think HAS to be ANSWERED, is not whether KENT HASLAM will entertain THOUGHTS of bringing Bobby back, BUT will Royce ALLOW it to HAPPEN. IF he does, THEN he SHOULD allow RP to be HIRED back in SOME capacity.

Love IT. I've BEEN waiting for SOMEONE to do THIS.

ReAlLy? ThEn YoUr WaIt Is OvEr.

 

[mtgrizrule]

Agree on Engstrom's involvement, but note that Engstrom fired Pflu but not Bobby.

Agreed, but as far as I can tell, RP's biggest crime was not sharing information that he knew right away with the administration.....which, if considered a firing offense, would seem to raise some concerns with the king, re: bobby.

With regard to RP and sharing information, UM admitted that it did not have a policy in place to require reporting in that situation. UM later amended its policy. That certainly wasn't a firing expense. Also, RP did not know the accuser was a student. Only that the police investigated and would not bring charges. The players were disciplined by him.

I agree with that completely. I just don't understand the comment of why RE would hold that against RP, but not have similar concerns about Bobby. FWIW, I think both men should be considered. I just think RE is going to have to take a hard look in the mirror if he allows one coach back, with not the best reputation of working with the university, and holding fast that the correct decision was made in firing the other.
I maintain that the biggest obstacle in Bobby coming back will have nothing to do with the applicant or the AD...

If Hauck returns, it will be a matter of some influential supporters winning over Engstrom. All I know is the only push back regarding Hauck is coming from someone(s) that is not part of the athletic department, but are part of the decision making process. I interpret that as Engstrom and/or a member of the BOR.

I don't know who is currently on the BOR, but who on it would be most likely to oppose Hauck?

 

[GrizRanger]

Hauck is interested. The only impediment would be Engstrom.

Well if this is true it is may be first thing about our arrogant, hypocrite President Engstrom that I like.

Griz don't need a 2nd go around with Bobby Hauck! His dad and brother were/are great people, Bobby is an asshole, --never liked by most players.

 

[Cotton-eyed Hoe]

Agree on Engstrom's involvement, but note that Engstrom fired Pflu but not Bobby.

Agreed, but as far as I can tell, RP's biggest crime was not sharing information that he knew right away with the administration.....which, if considered a firing offense, would seem to raise some concerns with the king, re: bobby.

With regard to RP and sharing information, UM admitted that it did not have a policy in place to require reporting in that situation. UM later amended its policy. That certainly wasn't a firing expense. Also, RP did not know the accuser was a student. Only that the police investigated and would not bring charges. The players were disciplined by him.

I agree with that completely. I just don't understand the comment of why RE would hold that against RP, but not have similar concerns about Bobby. FWIW, I think both men should be considered. I just think RE is going to have to take a hard look in the mirror if he allows one coach back, with not the best reputation of working with the university, and holding fast that the correct decision was made in firing the other.
I maintain that the biggest obstacle in Bobby coming back will have nothing to do with the applicant or the AD...

I have it on good authority that RE fired RP because he simply couldn't wrap his head around the incongruous pronunciation of his (RP's) initials. It looks for all the world to be a straight-forward "ARE PEE", but, of course, that's wrong. RP is actually pronounced "ARE EFF". It just never sat right with RE; in fact, it kind've bugged the shit out of him.
He's similarly tortured by Brett Favre.

 

[billings_poke]

Just for the record, I have definite knowledge that BH's resignation at UNLV was one that was forced by the school and/or BoR. He did NOT resign in order to apply for the job opening at UoM. Just wanted to clear-up any of those thoughts, which were uttered in previous posts.

UNLV boosters wanted the change. They are now putting up the bucks for the new head coach. They wanted Hauck gone to get their guy in


Tweet from Vegas reporter
Mark Anderson ‏@markanderson65
Was just told the Fertittas will bring in $30 million up front to #UNLVFB that will go to facilities, training table and coaches' salaries.

 

[biga75]

Just for the record, I have definite knowledge that BH's resignation at UNLV was one that was forced by the school and/or BoR. He did NOT resign in order to apply for the job opening at UoM. Just wanted to clear-up any of those thoughts, which were uttered in previous posts.

UNLV boosters wanted the change. They are now putting up the bucks for the new head coach. They wanted Hauck gone to get their guy in


Tweet from Vegas reporter
Mark Anderson ‏@markanderson65
Was just told the Fertittas will bring in $30 million up front to #UNLVFB that will go to facilities, training table and coaches' salaries.

Well, let's hope that this puts a kibosh on the idea that Hauck stepped down voluntarily in order to come back to UM. Looks pretty clear to me that he was forced out by those with the $$$. Now let's move on to some new candidates :thumb:

 

[PlayerRep]

Just for the record, I have definite knowledge that BH's resignation at UNLV was one that was forced by the school and/or BoR. He did NOT resign in order to apply for the job opening at UoM. Just wanted to clear-up any of those thoughts, which were uttered in previous posts.

UNLV boosters wanted the change. They are now putting up the bucks for the new head coach. They wanted Hauck gone to get their guy in


Tweet from Vegas reporter
Mark Anderson ‏@markanderson65
Was just told the Fertittas will bring in $30 million up front to #UNLVFB that will go to facilities, training table and coaches' salaries.

Well, let's hope that this puts a kibosh on the idea that Hauck stepped down voluntarily in order to come back to UM. Looks pretty clear to me that he was forced out by those with the $$$. Now let's move on to some new candidates :thumb:

I know for a fact that BH wanted to pursue the UM job. While UNLV or boosters may have wanted him out too, he would have gotten alot more than $400,000 of the remaining 2 years of his contract paying $700,000 per year if they were forcing him out. Under a force-out situation, the bidding would have started at $1.4 million. All assuming there wasn't an unusual provision in the contract.

 

[kemajic]

I'm amazed that people actually believe the game has moved past BH since he left simply because he didn't have success at the FBS level. We are talking the winningest coach in the history of the Griz program. People are tending to let their bias from before judge now.

The odds are Ty was the leading candidate for this job until Bobby appeared back on the scene. The idea that we would have a "national" search is truly the pipe dream. Technically not even Travis came from a national search, he was a former player that was coaching with a legendary Montana coach.

So the question is do you want Ty, or do you want Bobby and Ty. Seems like an easy call to me, but I've also heard RE is not sold on the idea. But will he buckle to the high profile Griz supporters?

Ty has not been the leading candidate.

 

[kemajic]

If Hauck didn't take the multi million dollar deal... I would be concerned about his mental health and decision making abilities.

The irony is he got that multi million dollar offer because he had success at Montana. Yet people seem to be happier with how we've done in the five years since.....even Pflu only had one fairly good season....and he did it with BH's recruits. Not one person here can say how Pflu would've done long term.....we simply don't know. We can believe.....but we dont know.

Agree. He could even have done something BH never did.