Bobby Coached Team vs. Stitt Coached Team

[HelenaHandBasket]

Oh, I agree. I'm just making the point that it's unfair (and inaccurate) to only highlight the great from Bobby and the poor from Stitt.

Okay, which of the two would have done better the last 2 years at UM? There's an apples to apples comparison. Let's see you or anyone say that Hauck would have done worse than Stitt? Put up or shut up.

For the record, it is not an apples to apples comparison.

Huh? Asking which coach would have done better in the past 2 years is in fact apples to apples.

Actually it is not. Apples to apples assumes they are a like. Comparing the guy that did coach with a guy that did not coach is not comparing like objects.

 

[Stop_HammerTime69]

PR, where are you trying to go with this thread? It is impossible to know or prove, who would have done better the past 2 years.

Then stop pretending that you "know" it or can "prove" it.

The actual fact is, you haven't and you can't.

Isn't that exactly what he just said? :lol:

"No," would have been about 5,000 words shorter, and unburdened by enough positive qualifiers to make a casual reader think that the Football Millenium was just about to arrive, hamperened only by those 4 losses out of five at the end of the last season -- a period in which Stitt managed, with each new permutation of blame, to have blamed everyone in sight -- including the losses to two of the worst teams in the Conference, including the Cats, in their worst year in ages, in our home turf.

I honestly don't know why people keep calling Stitt a politician. He's been a pretty honest and up front guy. He straight up accepted the blame for the slip at the end of last season. I still don't think it was entirely his fault, but I respect a guy who can just say "My Bad" and move on. One of the big things that the offseason does for diehard football fans is it doesn't let us move on. We don't see the work and results until next season.

And I've said it before, but we simply have to be patient. We really do. No program turns around from what Montana was under the last two coaches in one or two seasons.

Hauck and Stitt walked into two very very different situations. Hauck proved at UNLV he wasn't capable of building a program. Stitt is in the process. I know it's frustrating, but our fanbase has to adopt the mantra of the 76ers: "Trust the Process."

 

[CV Griz Fan]

PR, where are you trying to go with this thread? It is impossible to know or prove, who would have done better the past 2 years.

Then stop pretending that you "know" it or can "prove" it.

The actual fact is, you haven't and you can't.

Isn't that exactly what he just said? :lol:

"No," would have been about 5,000 words shorter, and unburdened by enough positive qualifiers to make a casual reader think that the Football Millenium was just about to arrive, hamperened only by those 4 losses out of five at the end of the last season -- a period in which Stitt managed, with each new permutation of blame, to have blamed everyone in sight -- including the losses to two of the worst teams in the Conference, including the Cats, in their worst year in ages, in our home turf.

Hmmm...I have to admit that I like many of your posts 75 but you using the phrase "would have been about 5,000 words shorter" while judging something mtgrizrule just posted is a little strange...I know you are a recent convert to brevity and all but c'mon.

 

[UMGriz75]

I know it's frustrating, but our fanbase has to adopt the mantra of the 76ers: "Trust the Process."

Trust is also earned.

 

[sdk.catfish]

by Stop_HammerTime69 » Mon Jul 03, 2017 7:10 pm

I know it's frustrating, but our fanbase has to adopt the mantra of the 76ers: "Trust the Process."

In we have lowered expectations to that of the 76ers we are f.........ed!

 

[UMGriz75]

I honestly don't know why people keep calling Stitt a politician.

What one, two out of 15,000 registered users "keep calling Stitt a politician?"

And you have no idea why? Really?

What's your acceptable limit of hyperbole?

Be specific.

 

[horribilisfan8184]

Then stop pretending that you "know" it or can "prove" it.

The actual fact is, you haven't and you can't.

Isn't that exactly what he just said? :lol:

"No," would have been about 5,000 words shorter, and unburdened by enough positive qualifiers to make a casual reader think that the Football Millenium was just about to arrive, hamperened only by those 4 losses out of five at the end of the last season -- a period in which Stitt managed, with each new permutation of blame, to have blamed everyone in sight -- including the losses to two of the worst teams in the Conference, including the Cats, in their worst year in ages, in our home turf.

I honestly don't know why people keep calling Stitt a politician. He's been a pretty honest and up front guy. He straight up accepted the blame for the slip at the end of last season. I still don't think it was entirely his fault, but I respect a guy who can just say "My Bad" and move on. One of the big things that the offseason does for diehard football fans is it doesn't let us move on. We don't see the work and results until next season.

And I've said it before, but we simply have to be patient. We really do. No program turns around from what Montana was under the last two coaches in one or two seasons.

Hauck and Stitt walked into two very very different situations. Hauck proved at UNLV he wasn't capable of building a program. Stitt is in the process. I know it's frustrating, but our fanbase has to adopt the mantra of the 76ers: "Trust the Process."

Now there is your apples to apples comparison. Two coaches moving up trying to build programs with problems. Let's give Stitt's his review when he has as many seasons at UM Bobbi had at UNLV.

 

[Ursa Major]

I think some of you bastards have been over-served.

 

[mtgrizrule]

I think some of you bastards have been over-served.

:thumb: :clap:

 

[Grizzoola]

Regarding this discussion let me first start by saying I am completely behind Bob Stitt and think griz nation is on the right path and on the verge of some great things....

A well said post. Thanks! :thumb:

 

[UMGriz75]

Regarding this discussion let me first start by saying I am completely behind Bob Stitt and think griz nation is on the right path and on the verge of some great things....

A well said post. Thanks! :thumb:

The Griz lost four of their five last games.

That included losses to the two conference bottom dwellers, including the key game at Missoula against the Cats in which the Griz, with their vaunted NFL caliber QB, lost to a struggling first-year team with a QB that just got his puberty license.

The "right path?"

What would qualify as "the wrong path?"

Winning?

 

[Grizzoola]

Regarding this discussion let me first start by saying I am completely behind Bob Stitt and think griz nation is on the right path and on the verge of some great things....

A well said post. Thanks! :thumb:

Having said what I meant, the jury is still out re: Stitt's success in the BSC & the FCS. I refer to the ups & downs of last season: Ws vs. NDSU & UNI, Ls vs. UNC & MSU. I don't get it. All i can say is Hauck had his teams ready to play, consistently, from a game's first down. Stitt''s teams tended to come out flat. Why, I do not know. It could be that Hauck had a smash-mouth O & D attitude. Stitt seems to be cerebral, concentrating more on finesse and skill. Yet, it still escapes me why Stitt's teams seemed not to have the elan (attitude) that Hauck's teams had. Hopefully, this season will see Stitt raising the Griz back to their accustomed dominance in the BSC & FCS.

 

[PlayerRep]

Isn't that exactly what he just said? :lol:

"No," would have been about 5,000 words shorter, and unburdened by enough positive qualifiers to make a casual reader think that the Football Millenium was just about to arrive, hamperened only by those 4 losses out of five at the end of the last season -- a period in which Stitt managed, with each new permutation of blame, to have blamed everyone in sight -- including the losses to two of the worst teams in the Conference, including the Cats, in their worst year in ages, in our home turf.

I honestly don't know why people keep calling Stitt a politician. He's been a pretty honest and up front guy. He straight up accepted the blame for the slip at the end of last season. I still don't think it was entirely his fault, but I respect a guy who can just say "My Bad" and move on. One of the big things that the offseason does for diehard football fans is it doesn't let us move on. We don't see the work and results until next season.

And I've said it before, but we simply have to be patient. We really do. No program turns around from what Montana was under the last two coaches in one or two seasons.

Hauck and Stitt walked into two very very different situations. Hauck proved at UNLV he wasn't capable of building a program. Stitt is in the process. I know it's frustrating, but our fanbase has to adopt the mantra of the 76ers: "Trust the Process."

Now there is your apples to apples comparison. Two coaches moving up trying to build programs with problems. Let's give Stitt's his review when he has as many seasons at UM Bobbi had at UNLV.

Coaching at different schools at different times is not apples to apples. Coaching at the same school in the same two-year period would be apples to apples. You are an idiot.

 

[PlayerRep]

Okay, which of the two would have done better the last 2 years at UM? There's an apples to apples comparison. Let's see you or anyone say that Hauck would have done worse than Stitt? Put up or shut up.

For the record, it is not an apples to apples comparison.

Huh? Asking which coach would have done better in the past 2 years is in fact apples to apples.

Actually it is not. Apples to apples assumes they are a like. Comparing the guy that did coach with a guy that did not coach is not comparing like objects.

Comparing how 2 coaches would have done at the same school in the same two-year period is apples to apples. It's even more simple than that. Which one would have had the best record in the same period? You are an idiot, or at least a football idiot.

 

[UMGriz75]

Stitt seems to be cerebral, concentrating more on finesse and skill. Yet, it still escapes me why Stitt's teams seemed not to have the elan (attitude) that Hauck's teams had. Hopefully, this season will see Stitt raising the Griz back to their accustomed dominance in the BSC & FCS.

You're making that up. I cannot see anything that is more "cerebral" about Coach Stitt's strategy. It appears to me to be both pedestrian and predictable.

Apparently other coaches in the Conference are beginning to agree.

 

[PlayerRep]

Okay, which of the two would have done better the last 2 years at UM? There's an apples to apples comparison. Let's see you or anyone say that Hauck would have done worse than Stitt? Put up or shut up.

For the record, it is not an apples to apples comparison.

Huh? Asking which coach would have done better in the past 2 years is in fact apples to apples.

PR, where are you trying to go with this thread? It is impossible to know or prove, who would have done better the past 2 years. I would agree, simply based on Hauck's past teams at Montana, he would have likely done better. However, that is simply an opinion. There is no way for me, or anyone to do nothing more than to just have an opinion on this. Your post just seems a little unlike something you would post. :thumb:

Grizrule, you just answered my question. You said you believed Hauck would have likely done better. l think most people would agree with you. No one asked anyone to "prove" anything. It was a simple question, with 3 possible answers. Hauck, Stitt or don't know.

 

[argh!]

You are an idiot.

says the guy who posts 'put up or shut up' in response to a hypothetical.

 

[horribilisfan8184]

For the record, it is not an apples to apples comparison.

Huh? Asking which coach would have done better in the past 2 years is in fact apples to apples.

Actually it is not. Apples to apples assumes they are a like. Comparing the guy that did coach with a guy that did not coach is not comparing like objects.

Comparing how 2 coaches would have done at the same school in the same two-year period is apples to apples. It's even more simple than that. Which one would have had the best record in the same period? You are an idiot, or at least a football idiot.

Two head coaches cannot coach as head coaches at the same school at the same time. Speculating how one coach would have done with the same players with the same schedule and same game conditions as the other I s nice fantasy but meaningless. Nice try at an insult, but you must have been looking in the mirror when you typed "idiot".

 

[AllWeatherFan]

Here's how this goes. Somebody says something positive, then '75 responds with an acerbic diss. Whose turn is it?

 

[UMGriz75]

Here's how this goes. Somebody says something positive, then '75 responds with an acerbic diss. Whose turn is it?

Get it correct. Somebody makes up something that didn't actually happen, and 75 responds by quoting Bob Stitt from published sources.