Bobby Coached Team vs. Stitt Coached Team

[mtgrizrule]

Stitt or Hauck? Hauck had the time necessary to prove himself as GRIZ Coach. Stitt, took over a much worse situation, than Hauck did. In Hauck's time as coach, he proved himself and his program as a winner. Stitt came in with many changes that needed to be made to carry out his vision. He needed to change the system, in turn caused changing of personnel and coaching staff. At this stage, Stitt is just wrapping up having the foundation laid. This year will be one to see how well the foundation is strengthened and added to.

As for the 2016 season, that GRIZ team ended with a terrible season as for record. Those kind of seasons are not acceptable, in my opinion. However, I do feel the team was better than their record. They were only blown out of 1 game (EWU). The loss to MSU was as ugly of a loss as possible for that matchup. I really do hope, the 2017 team uses a horrible 2016 season for motivation and a learning lesson, and move forward.

I am confident the GRIZ will improve on both sides of the ball in 2017. They will play more consistently. As we see the young OL gain experience, we will see gradual improvement in results and attitude. That will be a huge help to every qb, and 1 will eventually emerge. I honestly feel, if the OL improves, the rest will fall into place with the offense.

Defensively, we will need to see how well Semore learns. The defense slowly broke down as the 2016 season progressed. They especially struggled in zone coverage concepts. This season Semore needs to be more versatile in his strategy, and get every player on the same page. In 2016, there seemed to be multiple defensive break downs, resulting in huge plays for the opposition. It will be interesting to see what Semore does with personnel and strategy to improve the defense.

Special teams, the GRIZ have nice returners in place, capable kickers, punters, and special teams players. It appears to me, there needs to be more emphasis in better in game consistency as a whole. With Hauck, we absolutely knew special teams would be among the best in the nation. Can Stitt and his staff figure out how to turn special teams into a consistent strength of this team, to help the offense and defense? I am confident the offense and defense will do their part. Special teams, honestly is what I question most coming into the 2017 season.

Collectively, the 2017 season is a make or break season for Coach Stitt. More consistent play, a solid regular season with a playoff bid, will be enough for a contract extension. Another season like 2016, then Haslam will have the toughest decision of his GRIZ AD tenure. For me, I feel another coaching change, even if it were back to Hauck, would be detrimental to the program. I feel patience and open mindedness are what we all need to exercise starting now.

Coach Stitt, I will be pulling for you and am behind you. Coach Hauck, I look forward to seeing you continue to build your resume where you are at now, and hope to see you back as a head coach again, rather it be Montana, or elsewhere.

 

[get'em_griz]

Stitt or Hauck? Hauck had the time necessary to prove himself as GRIZ Coach. Stitt, took over a much worse situation, than Hauck did. In Hauck's time as coach, he proved himself and his program as a winner. Stitt came in with many changes that needed to be made to carry out his vision. He needed to change the system, in turn caused changing of personnel and coaching staff. At this stage, Stitt is just wrapping up having the foundation laid. This year will be one to see how well the foundation is strengthened and added to.

As for the 2016 season, that GRIZ team ended with a terrible season as for record. Those kind of seasons are not acceptable, in my opinion. However, I do feel the team was better than their record. They were only blown out of 1 game (EWU). The loss to MSU was as ugly of a loss as possible for that matchup. I really do hope, the 2017 team uses a horrible 2016 season for motivation and a learning lesson, and move forward.

I am confident the GRIZ will improve on both sides of the ball in 2017. They will play more consistently. As we see the young OL gain experience, we will see gradual improvement in results and attitude. That will be a huge help to every qb, and 1 will eventually emerge. I honestly feel, if the OL improves, the rest will fall into place with the offense.

Defensively, we will need to see how well Semore learns. The defense slowly broke down as the 2016 season progressed. They especially struggled in zone coverage concepts. This season Semore needs to be more versatile in his strategy, and get every player on the same page. In 2016, there seemed to be multiple defensive break downs, resulting in huge plays for the opposition. It will be interesting to see what Semore does with personnel and strategy to improve the defense.

Special teams, the GRIZ have nice returners in place, capable kickers, punters, and special teams players. It appears to me, there needs to be more emphasis in better in game consistency as a whole. With Hauck, we absolutely knew special teams would be among the best in the nation. Can Stitt and his staff figure out how to turn special teams into a consistent strength of this team, to help the offense and defense? I am confident the offense and defense will do their part. Special teams, honestly is what I question most coming into the 2017 season.

Collectively, the 2017 season is a make or break season for Coach Stitt. More consistent play, a solid regular season with a playoff bid, will be enough for a contract extension. Another season like 2016, then Haslam will have the toughest decision of his GRIZ AD tenure. For me, I feel another coaching change, even if it were back to Hauck, would be detrimental to the program. I feel patience and open mindedness are what we all need to exercise starting now.

Coach Stitt, I will be pulling for you and am behind you. Coach Hauck, I look forward to seeing you continue to build your resume where you are at now, and hope to see you back as a head coach again, rather it be Montana, or elsewhere.

Good post, mtgrizrule. I enjoy seeing your thoughts and wish you'd post more often! :thumb:

 

[SoldierGriz]

Stitt or Hauck? Hauck had the time necessary to prove himself as GRIZ Coach. Stitt, took over a much worse situation, than Hauck did. In Hauck's time as coach, he proved himself and his program as a winner. Stitt came in with many changes that needed to be made to carry out his vision. He needed to change the system, in turn caused changing of personnel and coaching staff. At this stage, Stitt is just wrapping up having the foundation laid. This year will be one to see how well the foundation is strengthened and added to.

As for the 2016 season, that GRIZ team ended with a terrible season as for record. Those kind of seasons are not acceptable, in my opinion. However, I do feel the team was better than their record. They were only blown out of 1 game (EWU). The loss to MSU was as ugly of a loss as possible for that matchup. I really do hope, the 2017 team uses a horrible 2016 season for motivation and a learning lesson, and move forward.

I am confident the GRIZ will improve on both sides of the ball in 2017. They will play more consistently. As we see the young OL gain experience, we will see gradual improvement in results and attitude. That will be a huge help to every qb, and 1 will eventually emerge. I honestly feel, if the OL improves, the rest will fall into place with the offense.

Defensively, we will need to see how well Semore learns. The defense slowly broke down as the 2016 season progressed. They especially struggled in zone coverage concepts. This season Semore needs to be more versatile in his strategy, and get every player on the same page. In 2016, there seemed to be multiple defensive break downs, resulting in huge plays for the opposition. It will be interesting to see what Semore does with personnel and strategy to improve the defense.

Special teams, the GRIZ have nice returners in place, capable kickers, punters, and special teams players. It appears to me, there needs to be more emphasis in better in game consistency as a whole. With Hauck, we absolutely knew special teams would be among the best in the nation. Can Stitt and his staff figure out how to turn special teams into a consistent strength of this team, to help the offense and defense? I am confident the offense and defense will do their part. Special teams, honestly is what I question most coming into the 2017 season.

Collectively, the 2017 season is a make or break season for Coach Stitt. More consistent play, a solid regular season with a playoff bid, will be enough for a contract extension. Another season like 2016, then Haslam will have the toughest decision of his GRIZ AD tenure. For me, I feel another coaching change, even if it were back to Hauck, would be detrimental to the program. I feel patience and open mindedness are what we all need to exercise starting now.

Coach Stitt, I will be pulling for you and am behind you. Coach Hauck, I look forward to seeing you continue to build your resume where you are at now, and hope to see you back as a head coach again, rather it be Montana, or elsewhere.

Good post, mtgrizrule. I enjoy seeing your thoughts and wish you'd post more often! :thumb:

Good post. But, bolded above does not equal a tough decision...another season like 2016 makes Haslam's decision easy IMO.

 

[fanofzoo]

Every year the O line is going to be bigger and badder than last year,
we were promised.

 

[UMGriz75]

Please, no more.

 

[mtgrizrule]

Stitt or Hauck? Hauck had the time necessary to prove himself as GRIZ Coach. Stitt, took over a much worse situation, than Hauck did. In Hauck's time as coach, he proved himself and his program as a winner. Stitt came in with many changes that needed to be made to carry out his vision. He needed to change the system, in turn caused changing of personnel and coaching staff. At this stage, Stitt is just wrapping up having the foundation laid. This year will be one to see how well the foundation is strengthened and added to.

As for the 2016 season, that GRIZ team ended with a terrible season as for record. Those kind of seasons are not acceptable, in my opinion. However, I do feel the team was better than their record. They were only blown out of 1 game (EWU). The loss to MSU was as ugly of a loss as possible for that matchup. I really do hope, the 2017 team uses a horrible 2016 season for motivation and a learning lesson, and move forward.

I am confident the GRIZ will improve on both sides of the ball in 2017. They will play more consistently. As we see the young OL gain experience, we will see gradual improvement in results and attitude. That will be a huge help to every qb, and 1 will eventually emerge. I honestly feel, if the OL improves, the rest will fall into place with the offense.

Defensively, we will need to see how well Semore learns. The defense slowly broke down as the 2016 season progressed. They especially struggled in zone coverage concepts. This season Semore needs to be more versatile in his strategy, and get every player on the same page. In 2016, there seemed to be multiple defensive break downs, resulting in huge plays for the opposition. It will be interesting to see what Semore does with personnel and strategy to improve the defense.

Special teams, the GRIZ have nice returners in place, capable kickers, punters, and special teams players. It appears to me, there needs to be more emphasis in better in game consistency as a whole. With Hauck, we absolutely knew special teams would be among the best in the nation. Can Stitt and his staff figure out how to turn special teams into a consistent strength of this team, to help the offense and defense? I am confident the offense and defense will do their part. Special teams, honestly is what I question most coming into the 2017 season.

Collectively, the 2017 season is a make or break season for Coach Stitt. More consistent play, a solid regular season with a playoff bid, will be enough for a contract extension. Another season like 2016, then Haslam will have the toughest decision of his GRIZ AD tenure. For me, I feel another coaching change, even if it were back to Hauck, would be detrimental to the program. I feel patience and open mindedness are what we all need to exercise starting now.

Coach Stitt, I will be pulling for you and am behind you. Coach Hauck, I look forward to seeing you continue to build your resume where you are at now, and hope to see you back as a head coach again, rather it be Montana, or elsewhere.

Good post, mtgrizrule. I enjoy seeing your thoughts and wish you'd post more often! :thumb:

Good post. But, bolded above does not equal a tough decision...another season like 2016 makes Haslam's decision easy IMO.

Thanks guys. I cut back on my posting a lot. Got tired of a few of the asses on this site. Rather than give them fuel to derail threads and bring people down, I decided it would be best to limit my posting.

As for a decision, unless the GRIZ have an absolutely miserable season, and there is no improvement, then I stand by this being a tough decision. The reality of it, the majority of Stitt's guys are underclassman. It is difficult for underclassmen to perform at or above the level's of upper classmen. Are there underclassmen who are the exception? Hell yeah, there is. However, the exceptions are in the minority.

This program, the fans, and the players have been through enough since Hauck's departure. The GRIZ are in dire need of continuity. That will take patience. We cannot continue to change coaches and systems at the rate we have, since Hauck's departure.

Also, Stitt has met and exceeded the expectations for academics and players staying out of trouble. Those factors will continue to be weighed heavily. I honestly feel, Stitt has the personnel and coaching staff in place to return the GRIZ back to being a national contender. Unfortunately, the majority of those players are under classmen. I feel all those factors will buy Still more time, patience, and understanding. Realistically, the GRIZ are a year away (2018) from living up to huge expectations. Is it possible for them to speed those expectations up by a year? It is possible, but it is a 50/50 probability, at best, this season.

Regardless of who any of us support, or what we want, it will be fun ride with a lot of unpredictability to keep everyone entertained and interested. :thumb:

 

[i_the_sky]

Real simple there is no comparison BH is a proven great coach football coach Stit is a politician with two notable wins one against NDSU in his first game and one against SDSU that we struggled in the second half and should have lost!

 

[uofmman1122]

I honestly can't tell if i_the_sky is a senile 75 year-old or a 13 year-old kid.

Posting style checks out on both. :lol:

 

[Spanky]

Sky seems correct. Of course, I'm a senile old man.

 

[PlayerRep]

Lost at home to Wofford in 2008 I believe.

But yeah, downplaying Hauck's success is ridiculous.

Oh, I agree. I'm just making the point that it's unfair (and inaccurate) to only highlight the great from Bobby and the poor from Stitt.

Okay, which of the two would have done better the last 2 years at UM? There's an apples to apples comparison. Let's see you or anyone say that Hauck would have done worse than Stitt? Put up or shut up.

For the record, it is not an apples to apples comparison.

Huh? Asking which coach would have done better in the past 2 years is in fact apples to apples.

 

[i_the_sky]

Bobby Hauck was 8-0 BSC' in (2006, 2007 and 2009) and won the BSC title, outright! Hauck went 5-2 vs. the Kittykats... Hauck won a total of 7 BSC championship's and went to the playoffs in as many seasons in route to 3 semi final wins and three national championship games!!! Stit has never won the BSC championship! and doesn't have a FCS playoff win... What's to compare? A great head coach in BH and a mediocre politician in BS... "NUFF SAID"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go Grizz & whoever the Kats are playing"














8 HAUCK

 

[mtgrizrule]

Oh, I agree. I'm just making the point that it's unfair (and inaccurate) to only highlight the great from Bobby and the poor from Stitt.

Okay, which of the two would have done better the last 2 years at UM? There's an apples to apples comparison. Let's see you or anyone say that Hauck would have done worse than Stitt? Put up or shut up.

For the record, it is not an apples to apples comparison.

Huh? Asking which coach would have done better in the past 2 years is in fact apples to apples.

PR, where are you trying to go with this thread? It is impossible to know or prove, who would have done better the past 2 years. I would agree, simply based on Hauck's past teams at Montana, he would have likely done better. However, that is simply an opinion. There is no way for me, or anyone to do nothing more than to just have an opinion on this. Your post just seems a little unlike something you would post. :thumb:

 

[Griz Man]

Okay, which of the two would have done better the last 2 years at UM? There's an apples to apples comparison. Let's see you or anyone say that Hauck would have done worse than Stitt? Put up or shut up.

For the record, it is not an apples to apples comparison.

Huh? Asking which coach would have done better in the past 2 years is in fact apples to apples.

PR, where are you trying to go with this thread? It is impossible to know or prove, who would have done better the past 2 years. I would agree, simply based on Hauck's past teams at Montana, he would have likely done better. However, that is simply an opinion. There is no way for me, or anyone to do nothing more than to just have an opinion on this. Your post just seems a little unlike something you would post. :thumb:

I'm a big Stitt fan, and I also believe that Hauck's record over the past 2 years would have been better. But I think that the NDSU win highlights what many had hoped - that Stitt's innovative approach would lead to victories over bigger and more talented opponents, hopefully leading to another national championship. I'm not quite as hopeful as I was after the NDSU win, but I think Stitt still deserves more time - at least 2 more years if we go 7-4, the team plays with heart, and the offense shows evidence of true innovation this season.

 

[EverettGriz]

Oh, I agree. I'm just making the point that it's unfair (and inaccurate) to only highlight the great from Bobby and the poor from Stitt.

Okay, which of the two would have done better the last 2 years at UM? There's an apples to apples comparison. Let's see you or anyone say that Hauck would have done worse than Stitt? Put up or shut up.

For the record, it is not an apples to apples comparison.

Huh? Asking which coach would have done better in the past 2 years is in fact apples to apples.

So is it Mcgilucuddy or Zappa?

 

[CV Griz Fan]

Bobby Hauck was 8-0 BSC' in (2006, 2007 and 2009) and won the BSC title, outright! Hauck went 5-2 vs. the Kittykats... Hauck won a total of 7 BSC championship's and went to the playoffs in as many seasons in route to 3 semi final wins and three national championship games!!! Stit has never won the BSC championship! and doesn't have a FCS playoff win... What's to compare? A great head coach in BH and a mediocre politician in BS... "NUFF SAID"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go Grizz & whoever the Kats are playing"

I'm not trying to say that Stitt was better than Hauck. Hauck's record speaks for itself. But this is the 2nd poster to say that Stitt has no FCS playoff wins. How can a Griz fan say that?

PS: Bringing up FZ on egriz is pretty classic. Question, what egriz poster most closely resembles the Central Scrutinizer? "The white curb is for loading and unloading only".....

 

[i_the_sky]

A little while ago the Kittykats were trying to compare Rob Ash to Don Reid ? this makes even less sense. There is no comparison here. Hauck by a landslide!

 

[UMGriz75]

PR, where are you trying to go with this thread? It is impossible to know or prove, who would have done better the past 2 years.

Then stop pretending that you "know" it or can "prove" it.

The actual fact is, you haven't and you can't.

Isn't that precisely his point?

 

[uofmman1122]

PR, where are you trying to go with this thread? It is impossible to know or prove, who would have done better the past 2 years.

Then stop pretending that you "know" it or can "prove" it.

The actual fact is, you haven't and you can't.

Isn't that exactly what he just said? :lol:

 

[CV Griz Fan]

Okay, which of the two would have done better the last 2 years at UM? There's an apples to apples comparison. Let's see you or anyone say that Hauck would have done worse than Stitt? Put up or shut up.

For the record, it is not an apples to apples comparison.

Huh? Asking which coach would have done better in the past 2 years is in fact apples to apples.

So is it Mcgilucuddy or Zappa?

Can't imagine Zappa at 3rd grade parent/teacher night. Sorry....

 

[UMGriz75]

PR, where are you trying to go with this thread? It is impossible to know or prove, who would have done better the past 2 years.

Then stop pretending that you "know" it or can "prove" it.

The actual fact is, you haven't and you can't.

Isn't that exactly what he just said? :lol:

"No," would have been about 5,000 words shorter, and unburdened by enough positive qualifiers to make a casual reader think that the Football Millenium was just about to arrive, hamperened only by those 4 losses out of five at the end of the last season -- a period in which Stitt managed, with each new permutation of blame, to have blamed everyone in sight -- including the losses to two of the worst teams in the Conference, including the Cats, in their worst year in ages, in our home turf.