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Bobby at the Basketball game last night

behappp said:
Bobby needs to do the following
Year1- FTC
Year2- FTC and make the playoffs
Year 3 FTC and win more than one home playoff game

Should be doable. Especially since he will have first class ST play. Something that Stitt was still learning about in year 3.
I’d kind of like him to make the playoffs next year, and if he doesn’t I’m gonna be kind of underwhelmed.
 
grizghost said:
....did not JMU coach turn around the program in a year..alpha male coach that players brought into
immediately ...so l would expect the same with Bobby!...getting players to play above their skill-set
is what makes a great teams..can't wait!

JMU coach turned it around by loading up on drop-downs and getting them to buy into “team”. Not an easy thing to do, both finding the talent, especially for schools far away from population density and from finding the right fits to your culture. JMU is the exception rather than the rule in being successful with this approach. It can be risky if you over-do it.
 
Art Spooner said:
grizghost said:
....did not JMU coach turn around the program in a year..alpha male coach that players brought into
immediately ...so l would expect the same with Bobby!...getting players to play above their skill-set
is what makes a great teams..can't wait!

JMU coach turned it around by loading up on drop-downs and getting them to buy into “team”. Not an easy thing to do, both finding the talent, especially for schools far away from population density and from finding the right fits to your culture. JMU is the exception rather than the rule in being successful with this approach. It can be risky if you over-do it.

And yet JMU's success was continually held up by the "fire Stitt" crowd as the bellweather for how easy it was to turn a team/program around. :lol: :lol:
 
BozAngelesGriz said:
2-1 or better vs the cats and he stays. if he is 1-2 or god forbid 0-3 he's gone. and i don't think the rest matters.
Well, in 2003, 2004 and 2005, he went 1-2. Though, he made the playoffs each of those years, so that probably doesn't matter. :thumb: :D
 
MissoulaMarinerFan said:
BozAngelesGriz said:
2-1 or better vs the cats and he stays. if he is 1-2 or god forbid 0-3 he's gone. and i don't think the rest matters.
Well, in 2003, 2004 and 2005, he went 1-2. Though, he made the playoffs each of those years, so that probably doesn't matter. :thumb: :D

point taken. but we're not exactly dealing with Travis Lulay this time, either
 
Ursus1 said:
Grizzoola said:
BH is not coming into a successful program like he did the first time. He has a lot of work to do, and I support him. But, I'm not expecting too much next season, maybe even matching last season's record. We all need to sit back & let him know we support him, whatever the 2018 record is. He didn't have that at UNLV.
But Stitt was 7-4 and people said should have beaten the Cats and been in playoffs with that team ......so Bobby is inheriting a team that "should have been 8-3" so is getting a lot better team to start with than a typical new hire after firing. Anything less than a Cat win and playoffs will be a disappointing year in most eyes (otherwise why fired Stitt if 7-4/Cat losses/no playoffs is acceptable)
You're joking, right? 7-4 in an unusually soft schedule with 6 of the wins (and one of the losses) vs real patsies. That team was closer to 5-6 than to 8-3. It's clear to anyone who knows the game that the real handicap was coaching, which has been fixed. Far tougher schedule this year, but the Griz will be in every game. And unlike the last 3 years, they will be better at end of the year than they are at the start.
 
dayday said:
I think he has to make the playoffs next year at a minimum. That’s the expectation and what it should be for next year.
Ahh, he has a three year contract.
 
AZGrizFan said:
Art Spooner said:
grizghost said:
....did not JMU coach turn around the program in a year..alpha male coach that players brought into
immediately ...so l would expect the same with Bobby!...getting players to play above their skill-set
is what makes a great teams..can't wait!

JMU coach turned it around by loading up on drop-downs and getting them to buy into “team”. Not an easy thing to do, both finding the talent, especially for schools far away from population density and from finding the right fits to your culture. JMU is the exception rather than the rule in being successful with this approach. It can be risky if you over-do it.

And yet JMU's success was continually held up by the "fire Stitt" crowd as the bellweather for how easy it was to turn a team/program around. :lol: :lol:

..stitt was let go because of low turn out in stadium attendance...losing to the cats...not making playoffs.
..this all amounts to loss of income to the school and local businesses..not hard to understand..in other words not trickle down..
 
griz4life said:
There are no sanctions anymore. Last year's team at 7-4 had the best record of any fbs or fcs team that fired its coach. That's not a tough program to "turn around" Hauck is a good manager. He's not going to change anything to the point of creating avoidable losses.

well you can add 2-3 more wins right off the bat just because Hauck knows how to defend 3rd & 18.
 
grizghost said:
AZGrizFan said:
Art Spooner said:
grizghost said:
....did not JMU coach turn around the program in a year..alpha male coach that players brought into
immediately ...so l would expect the same with Bobby!...getting players to play above their skill-set
is what makes a great teams..can't wait!

JMU coach turned it around by loading up on drop-downs and getting them to buy into “team”. Not an easy thing to do, both finding the talent, especially for schools far away from population density and from finding the right fits to your culture. JMU is the exception rather than the rule in being successful with this approach. It can be risky if you over-do it.

And yet JMU's success was continually held up by the "fire Stitt" crowd as the bellweather for how easy it was to turn a team/program around. :lol: :lol:

..stitt was let go because of low turn out in stadium attendance...losing to the cats...not making playoffs.
..this all amounts to loss of income to the school and local businesses..not hard to understand..in other words not trickle down..

Wow. Thanks so much for the Econ lesson. :roll:
 
AZGrizFan said:
Art Spooner said:
grizghost said:
....did not JMU coach turn around the program in a year..alpha male coach that players brought into
immediately ...so l would expect the same with Bobby!...getting players to play above their skill-set
is what makes a great teams..can't wait!

JMU coach turned it around by loading up on drop-downs and getting them to buy into “team”. Not an easy thing to do, both finding the talent, especially for schools far away from population density and from finding the right fits to your culture. JMU is the exception rather than the rule in being successful with this approach. It can be risky if you over-do it.

And yet JMU's success was continually held up by the "fire Stitt" crowd as the bellweather for how easy it was to turn a team/program around. :lol: :lol:
Not how "easy", how "possible."
 
PlayerRep said:
dayday said:
I think he has to make the playoffs next year at a minimum. That’s the expectation and what it should be for next year. Whether we have the horses to do that I don’t know yet. O-line and secondary are question marks at this point. I also don’t totally know scheme yet to say how it will fit. However, the firing of Stitt sent the message that the expectation is not to do a rebuild. Hauck is expected to take the talent he has and make it win games. He’s done it here before and the hope is to do it again.


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Don't necessarily agree. The message in the firing of Stitt is that you can't loss to the Cats and not make the playoffs in years 2 and 3.

Agreed PR, and I would say there is more nuance too. Special teams play, schemes/philosophy, intensity, etc. Bobby will bring the emotion and intensity, as well as ST. I feel with the talent Stitt had last year, he should have won in Bozeman. Personally I feel it was the intensity and emotion (or lack of) that doomed the team last year.
 
PlayerRep said:
dayday said:
I think he has to make the playoffs next year at a minimum. That’s the expectation and what it should be for next year. Whether we have the horses to do that I don’t know yet. O-line and secondary are question marks at this point. I also don’t totally know scheme yet to say how it will fit. However, the firing of Stitt sent the message that the expectation is not to do a rebuild. Hauck is expected to take the talent he has and make it win games. He’s done it here before and the hope is to do it again.


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Don't necessarily agree. The message in the firing of Stitt is that you can't loss to the Cats and not make the playoffs in years 2 and 3.

So if hypothetically if it’s a 6-5 year with both those things happening next year what is the reaction? I would think it won’t go over well which to me says what the expectation is here every year.


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Gotta do better than 7-4, we know that for sure. It'll be taillights for BH if he doesn't do better than 7-4.
 
kemajic said:
dayday said:
I think he has to make the playoffs next year at a minimum. That’s the expectation and what it should be for next year.
Ahh, he has a three year contract.

I am not saying he will be fired next year or should be but he will have failed if that doesn’t happen. I think that is fairly clear with this program.


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dayday said:
kemajic said:
dayday said:
I think he has to make the playoffs next year at a minimum. That’s the expectation and what it should be for next year.
Ahh, he has a three year contract.

I am not saying he will be fired next year or should be but he will have failed if that doesn’t happen. I think that is fairly clear with this program.


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Agree 100%.
 
kemajic said:
AZGrizFan said:
Art Spooner said:
grizghost said:
....did not JMU coach turn around the program in a year..alpha male coach that players brought into
immediately ...so l would expect the same with Bobby!...getting players to play above their skill-set
is what makes a great teams..can't wait!

JMU coach turned it around by loading up on drop-downs and getting them to buy into “team”. Not an easy thing to do, both finding the talent, especially for schools far away from population density and from finding the right fits to your culture. JMU is the exception rather than the rule in being successful with this approach. It can be risky if you over-do it.

And yet JMU's success was continually held up by the "fire Stitt" crowd as the bellweather for how easy it was to turn a team/program around. :lol: :lol:
Not how "easy", how "possible."

Well winning the lottery is “possible” too....
 
Coach Hauck didn't recruit a 5 years down the road class he recruited four transfers that will all fight for a starting position. Most notable Dalton Sneed at QB, Kent Eastwood at RB and a 6' 3" safety transfer from Arizona Robby Hauck a safety transfer from NAU and several others who are all be possible starters.. Just as important were our two biggest coaching changes,at DC and special teams. Bobby will coach special teams and Kent Baer will take over the defense. Not bad mouthing coach Stitt, he gave his best. But the Grizzlies will be back with a vengeance this year! And as for you whimpy bobcats. Take away two one touchdown wins in 2016 and 2017 in the Stitt years and several different coaches led Montana to an 8-2 record over you pussies the last 10 years.. The hickup is over!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Go Griz! "NUFF SAID"!
 
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