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Bob Stitt -- Not so fast!

runningriz said:
Unlike Stitt: Experience in the PAC 12, Big 12 and SEC. Baylor, Washington, Kentucky, Florida, NAU and Boise. Pretty darn good isn't it -- Mr. Waiting?

And? What did he do there? Wasn't ever a head coach.. coached some decent offenses along the way.. I already know what Pony thinks on the subject, but if we're gonna tout some creds for Pease, let's get 'em out there.
 
runningriz said:
Here is what I know about Coach Stitt:
He has no major college experience: UM is a major college in its requirements on and off the field.
He has never coached in a game as big as any game at Montana.
Two championships in 15 years in a below average league where they have many advantages:
-Location
-Recruiting base
-Popular Majors etc
Hasn't coached any type of athlete you need to win at Montana
No ties to MSU or UM program
Again: No D1 experience
Interviewed twice for the Colorado job and didn't get it
Never been under the eye of scrutiny as he will see in Missoula
Hard to recruit to School of Mines because of ACA requirements? BS-- It's the most attractive school in the league.
They tout him as some offensive guru. Half of America is running the same offense, and everyone runs the same plays. (It's nothing special or unusual)
Bottom Line: His experience is closer to a high school coach than a D1 program

You dont know Stitt :coffee:

You dont need ties to a school or program Urban Meyer didnt have ties to Florida or Ohio St Brian Kelly didnt have ties to Central Michigan, Cinncinnati or Notre Dame. Simply on of the dumbest things you guy repeat on here every year.

Stitt has 15 years of head coaching experience which is 15 more than Hauck got hired and started the crime spree. Does it matter if you are a head coach in DIII or FBS, not really only to people that dont know dick about football. Its more about managing people and personalities, hire good coordinators and let them coach. Once again very very stupid comment

Hasnt coached they type of athlete needed at Montana? Yikes, where to start with this one, so so so so so so dumb. Did you comment the same way when Hauck went to UNLV, he PROVED he couldnt coach the type of athlete to win at UNLV..........whatever that means.

Co School of mines has higher academic standards at the school and the athletes they recruit so your requirements comment seems like a shot at Montana instead of Stitt

Recruiting base, yep he would only expand the reach of our program to places we dont currently recruit.

Again no DI experience, again doesnt mean a godadamn thing when you have 15 years of head coaching under your belt, that is more than Delaney had when we dug him up.

Offensive guru........yeah they all run those offenses because of people like Stitt that helped create and advance the spread. Hes a leader not a follower. (Maybe he doesnt belong here)

Bottom line is almost all of your bullet points are completely worthless, you should have save the cyber space and not hit submit. The only thing you accomplished is to prove maybe Stitt is too smart to coach at Montana and that is probably why he kicked us to the curb like he did USC.
 
AllWeatherFan said:
runningriz said:
Here is what I know about Coach Stitt:
He has no major college experience: UM is a major college in its requirements on and off the field.
He has never coached in a game as big as any game at Montana.
Two championships in 15 years in a below average league where they have many advantages:
-Location
-Recruiting base
-Popular Majors etc
Hasn't coached any type of athlete you need to win at Montana
No ties to MSU or UM program
Again: No D1 experience
Interviewed twice for the Colorado job and didn't get it
Never been under the eye of scrutiny as he will see in Missoula
Hard to recruit to School of Mines because of ACA requirements? BS-- It's the most attractive school in the league.
They tout him as some offensive guru. Half of America is running the same offense, and everyone runs the same plays. (It's nothing special or unusual)
Bottom Line: His experience is closer to a high school coach than a D1 program

Right. We'd be rolling the dice. Like EWU did with Baldwin.
Huh? Baldwin had previously been OC at EWU for 4 years before going to CWU as HC, a scholarship DII. No comparison.
 
ALPHAGRIZ1 said:
runningriz said:
Here is what I know about Coach Stitt:
He has no major college experience: UM is a major college in its requirements on and off the field.
He has never coached in a game as big as any game at Montana.
Two championships in 15 years in a below average league where they have many advantages:
-Location
-Recruiting base
-Popular Majors etc
Hasn't coached any type of athlete you need to win at Montana
No ties to MSU or UM program
Again: No D1 experience
Interviewed twice for the Colorado job and didn't get it
Never been under the eye of scrutiny as he will see in Missoula
Hard to recruit to School of Mines because of ACA requirements? BS-- It's the most attractive school in the league.
They tout him as some offensive guru. Half of America is running the same offense, and everyone runs the same plays. (It's nothing special or unusual)
Bottom Line: His experience is closer to a high school coach than a D1 program

You dont know Stitt :coffee:

You dont need ties to a school or program Urban Meyer didnt have ties to Florida or Ohio St Brian Kelly didnt have ties to Central Michigan, Cinncinnati or Notre Dame. Simply on of the dumbest things you guy repeat on here every year.

Stitt has 15 years of head coaching experience which is 15 more than Hauck got hired and started the crime spree. Does it matter if you are a head coach in DIII or FBS, not really only to people that dont know dick about football. Its more about managing people and personalities, hire good coordinators and let them coach. Once again very very stupid comment

Hasnt coached they type of athlete needed at Montana? Yikes, where to start with this one, so so so so so so dumb. Did you comment the same way when Hauck went to UNLV, he PROVED he couldnt coach the type of athlete to win at UNLV..........whatever that means.

Co School of mines has higher academic standards at the school and the athletes they recruit so your requirements comment seems like a shot at Montana instead of Stitt

Recruiting base, yep he would only expand the reach of our program to places we dont currently recruit.

Again no DI experience, again doesnt mean a godadamn thing when you have 15 years of head coaching under your belt, that is more than Delaney had when we dug him up.

Offensive guru........yeah they all run those offenses because of people like Stitt that helped create and advance the spread. Hes a leader not a follower. (Maybe he doesnt belong here)

Bottom line is almost all of your bullet points are completely worthless, you should have save the cyber space and not hit submit. The only thing you accomplished is to prove maybe Stitt is too smart to coach at Montana and that is probably why he kicked us to the curb like he did USC.

Spot on Alpha. We have become so myopic and inbred that we are in danger of slipping even further. We are becoming the FCS equivalent of Michigan. They had Rich Rod, but he wasn't a "Michigan Man" and rubbed boosters the wrong way. They are now irrelevant thanks to Hoke. Meanwhile Arizona made it to the Pac 12 title game and was the only team to beat Oregon this year with Rich Rod. Open the flood gates and lets flush out the stagnant water here. This program needs something new so bad.
 
MrTitleist said:
runningriz said:
Unlike Stitt: Experience in the PAC 12, Big 12 and SEC. Baylor, Washington, Kentucky, Florida, NAU and Boise. Pretty darn good isn't it -- Mr. Waiting?

And? What did he do there? Wasn't ever a head coach.. coached some decent offenses along the way.. I already know what Pony thinks on the subject, but if we're gonna tout some creds for Pease, let's get 'em out there.

Oh I think I've been pretty cagey and sly about my preference. You don't know what I think. :D
 
NLGrizFan said:
This guy can't even get a job at Northern Colorado. I'm not even buying into this shit, Stitt, whatever.

Perhaps UNC should have hired him and they wouldn't be in the mess they're perpetually in. 8-) 8-)
 
AZGrizFan said:
NLGrizFan said:
This guy can't even get a job at Northern Colorado. I'm not even buying into this shit, Stitt, whatever.

Perhaps UNC should have hired him and they wouldn't be in the mess they're perpetually in. 8-) 8-)

Exactly. That is like saying a player is no good because he did not get drafted by a bad team. While I favor Hauck coming back, we cannot critize Stitt until we see his work at this level.
 
Youtube Colorado schools of mines and watch some of their games. The offensive sets and passes will remind you alot of Don Read's offense. A lot of short passes, get your athletes the ball plays. In their loss in the playoffs, they had 500 plus yards and ran something like 108 plays. They turned the ball over in the red zone or they likely would have won the game. It is the offense that everyone has wanted for years. I don't get the reservation. Any new coach is a gamble. He will also call his own plays. I think this is what Baldwin does as well. His overall record at mines is actually better than Read's was when he came to Missoula. This is as close to Air Bear as you guys are going to get.
 
runningriz said:
I need to make a correction. He interviewed twice for the N. Colorado job (not Colorado)
and didn't get it.
No I'm not a relative, just a Pease fan.
Facts are Facts by the way

It is one's perception of facts is what matters.

For example, through my filter, I perceive these facts pretty favorably:

Mines churned out 108 plays and 519 yards of offense in this past playoff contest (against a higher ranked opponent), including 409 yards through the air. The squad was hampered by player turnovers (not coach), including a pair deep in ODU territory.

Sophomore Justin Dvorak, the nation's leader in total offense entering the contest, led the offense with 409 yards on a 42-of-71 passing performance with a pair of scores. He was also picked off once and added 46 rushing yards on 19 carries. He set a program record for total offensive plays in a season with 730 during the 2014 campaign (160 carries, 570 pass attempts) for a total of 4,671 yards and 44 total touchdowns.

There's not many 3 and out with this guy (Bob Stitts). Which is what Griz fans are having a big-time headache over.
 
GRIZFAN20 said:
AZGrizFan said:
NLGrizFan said:
This guy can't even get a job at Northern Colorado. I'm not even buying into this shit, Stitt, whatever.

Perhaps UNC should have hired him and they wouldn't be in the mess they're perpetually in. 8-) 8-)

Exactly. That is like saying a player is no good because he did not get drafted by a bad team. While I favor Hauck coming back, we cannot critize Stitt until we see his work at this level.
Hopefully we don't see it here. I want a DI proven coach. If I hired someone to run a big excavator I would hire a guy that has been running mini excavators. (I'm a construction boss.) I would never hire someone unproven. Done it before and it has only worked in certain applications. If I've got 7 resumes sitting in front of me I'm gonna take the most experienced person at that particular level.
 
NLGrizFan said:
GRIZFAN20 said:
AZGrizFan said:
NLGrizFan said:
This guy can't even get a job at Northern Colorado. I'm not even buying into this shit, Stitt, whatever.

Perhaps UNC should have hired him and they wouldn't be in the mess they're perpetually in. 8-) 8-)

Exactly. That is like saying a player is no good because he did not get drafted by a bad team. While I favor Hauck coming back, we cannot critize Stitt until we see his work at this level.
Hopefully we don't see it here. I want a DI proven coach. If I hired someone to run a big excavator I would hire a guy that has been running mini excavators. (I'm a construction boss.) I would never hire someone unproven. Done it before and it has only worked in certain applications. If I've got 7 resumes sitting in front of me I'm gonna take the most experienced person at that particular level.


Mr. Washington?????
 
NLGrizFan said:
GRIZFAN20 said:
AZGrizFan said:
NLGrizFan said:
This guy can't even get a job at Northern Colorado. I'm not even buying into this shit, Stitt, whatever.

Perhaps UNC should have hired him and they wouldn't be in the mess they're perpetually in. 8-) 8-)

Exactly. That is like saying a player is no good because he did not get drafted by a bad team. While I favor Hauck coming back, we cannot critize Stitt until we see his work at this level.
Hopefully we don't see it here. I want a DI proven coach. If I hired someone to run a big excavator I would hire a guy that has been running mini excavators. (I'm a construction boss.) I would never hire someone unproven. Done it before and it has only worked in certain applications. If I've got 7 resumes sitting in front of me I'm gonna take the most experienced person at that particular level.


Only difference there is that well...you can kill someone with an excavator.
 
BadlandsGrizFan said:
NLGrizFan said:
GRIZFAN20 said:
AZGrizFan said:
Perhaps UNC should have hired him and they wouldn't be in the mess they're perpetually in. 8-) 8-)

Exactly. That is like saying a player is no good because he did not get drafted by a bad team. While I favor Hauck coming back, we cannot critize Stitt until we see his work at this level.
Hopefully we don't see it here. I want a DI proven coach. If I hired someone to run a big excavator I would hire a guy that has been running mini excavators. (I'm a construction boss.) I would never hire someone unproven. Done it before and it has only worked in certain applications. If I've got 7 resumes sitting in front of me I'm gonna take the most experienced person at that particular level.


Mr. Washington?????
:lol:
 
BadlandsGrizFan said:
NLGrizFan said:
GRIZFAN20 said:
AZGrizFan said:
Perhaps UNC should have hired him and they wouldn't be in the mess they're perpetually in. 8-) 8-)

Exactly. That is like saying a player is no good because he did not get drafted by a bad team. While I favor Hauck coming back, we cannot critize Stitt until we see his work at this level.
Hopefully we don't see it here. I want a DI proven coach. If I hired someone to run a big excavator I would hire a guy that has been running mini excavators. (I'm a construction boss.) I would never hire someone unproven. Done it before and it has only worked in certain applications. If I've got 7 resumes sitting in front of me I'm gonna take the most experienced person at that particular level.


Only difference there is that well...you can kill someone with an excavator.
Very true. But... College football generates a lot more money than most construction companies. If I'm gonna make money, I don't want someone with 0 experience digging around live lines and guys on the ground. I wanna make money not lose any. *Money=Wins*
 
NLGrizFan said:
GRIZFAN20 said:
AZGrizFan said:
NLGrizFan said:
This guy can't even get a job at Northern Colorado. I'm not even buying into this shit, Stitt, whatever.

Perhaps UNC should have hired him and they wouldn't be in the mess they're perpetually in. 8-) 8-)

Exactly. That is like saying a player is no good because he did not get drafted by a bad team. While I favor Hauck coming back, we cannot critize Stitt until we see his work at this level.
Hopefully we don't see it here. I want a DI proven coach. If I hired someone to run a big excavator I would hire a guy that has been running mini excavators. (I'm a construction boss.) I would never hire someone unproven. Done it before and it has only worked in certain applications. If I've got 7 resumes sitting in front of me I'm gonna take the most experienced person at that particular level.

Where are you going to find a proven D1 head coach to come here for $185K? Bobby? Fired from UNLV after 15 wins in 5 seasons. Wulff? Left Eastern a mess, fired from Wazzu. Pease? Never a HC. Hawkins? Proven that he couldn't win w/out Petersen at two diff stops. Who's left?
 
ALPHAGRIZ1 said:
runningriz said:
Here is what I know about Coach Stitt:
He has no major college experience: UM is a major college in its requirements on and off the field.
He has never coached in a game as big as any game at Montana.
Two championships in 15 years in a below average league where they have many advantages:
-Location
-Recruiting base
-Popular Majors etc
Hasn't coached any type of athlete you need to win at Montana
No ties to MSU or UM program
Again: No D1 experience
Interviewed twice for the Colorado job and didn't get it
Never been under the eye of scrutiny as he will see in Missoula
Hard to recruit to School of Mines because of ACA requirements? BS-- It's the most attractive school in the league.
They tout him as some offensive guru. Half of America is running the same offense, and everyone runs the same plays. (It's nothing special or unusual)
Bottom Line: His experience is closer to a high school coach than a D1 program

You dont know Stitt :coffee:

You dont need ties to a school or program Urban Meyer didnt have ties to Florida or Ohio St Brian Kelly didnt have ties to Central Michigan, Cinncinnati or Notre Dame. Simply on of the dumbest things you guy repeat on here every year.

Stitt has 15 years of head coaching experience which is 15 more than Hauck got hired and started the crime spree. Does it matter if you are a head coach in DIII or FBS, not really only to people that dont know dick about football. Its more about managing people and personalities, hire good coordinators and let them coach. Once again very very stupid comment

Hasnt coached they type of athlete needed at Montana? Yikes, where to start with this one, so so so so so so dumb. Did you comment the same way when Hauck went to UNLV, he PROVED he couldnt coach the type of athlete to win at UNLV..........whatever that means.

Co School of mines has higher academic standards at the school and the athletes they recruit so your requirements comment seems like a shot at Montana instead of Stitt

Recruiting base, yep he would only expand the reach of our program to places we dont currently recruit.

Again no DI experience, again doesnt mean a godadamn thing when you have 15 years of head coaching under your belt, that is more than Delaney had when we dug him up.

Offensive guru........yeah they all run those offenses because of people like Stitt that helped create and advance the spread. Hes a leader not a follower. (Maybe he doesnt belong here)

Bottom line is almost all of your bullet points are completely worthless, you should have save the cyber space and not hit submit. The only thing you accomplished is to prove maybe Stitt is too smart to coach at Montana and that is probably why he kicked us to the curb like he did USC.


You gave this poster a lot of credit Alpha. He actually didn't use any bullet points. Just points.
 
I have to go with AG on this one.
You either take a guy on the way down or a guy who is on the way up.
I would prefer the guy on the way up, hes hungrier.

What a mess with all the rumors tho...
 
grizatwork said:
Youtube Colorado schools of mines and watch some of their games. The offensive sets and passes will remind you alot of Don Read's offense. A lot of short passes, get your athletes the ball plays. In their loss in the playoffs, they had 500 plus yards and ran something like 108 plays. They turned the ball over in the red zone or they likely would have won the game. It is the offense that everyone has wanted for years. I don't get the reservation. Any new coach is a gamble. He will also call his own plays. I think this is what Baldwin does as well. His overall record at mines is actually better than Read's was when he came to Missoula. This is as close to Air Bear as you guys are going to get.

This is what I was thinking. But then I think that when I agree with alpha on anything, there must be something wrong. I still think we'd get a dynamic offense with Pease, Lubick (I know, not a candiate, but that's my second choice), too. But recalling Papa Read's offense makes me tingly.
 
MrTitleist said:
NLGrizFan said:
GRIZFAN20 said:
AZGrizFan said:
Perhaps UNC should have hired him and they wouldn't be in the mess they're perpetually in. 8-) 8-)

Exactly. That is like saying a player is no good because he did not get drafted by a bad team. While I favor Hauck coming back, we cannot critize Stitt until we see his work at this level.
Hopefully we don't see it here. I want a DI proven coach. If I hired someone to run a big excavator I would hire a guy that has been running mini excavators. (I'm a construction boss.) I would never hire someone unproven. Done it before and it has only worked in certain applications. If I've got 7 resumes sitting in front of me I'm gonna take the most experienced person at that particular level.

Where are you going to find a proven D1 head coach to come here for $185K? Bobby? Fired from UNLV after 15 wins in 5 seasons. Wulff? Left Eastern a mess, fired from Wazzu. Pease? Never a HC. Hawkins? Proven that he couldn't win w/out Petersen at two diff stops. Who's left?
He did take UNLV to a Bowl Game last year... When was the last time that happened? 1997?
 
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