Bob Stitt has Earned a New Contract

[AZGrizFan]

Happy to put my football or other credentials up against yours. Let's hear your football pedigree.

I’m not the one in question here. I’m just doubting the claims of an anonymous poster on the internet.

But, could your dad beat up his dad?

My dad died when I was 10, but he did play football for BYU for a year and then a bit with the Griz. Don't know if he was tough, but he was a good athlete and grew up on the res.

:lol: If he grew up on the res he was tough. :thumb:

 

[sdk.catfish]

Eriul » Mon Nov 13, 2017 4:23 pm
Those two posts were made about completely different topics and different times. They are correct with the exception of my one "probably." Are you just mad about something or are you just trying to find somewhere to analyze someone's points or posts on an informal forum? Even I do not do such analysis and I have an English degree...

Not mad, just pointing out that in one post you criticize a poster as being speculative after earlier posting something as speculative as this:

Eriul wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:42 am
Fact is simple... you don't extend stitt after this year and we get 2+ more years of the team being unranked.

Even adding the word "probably" doesn't make it better as it is just another degree of pure speculation - the word "possibly" would be far more accurate. I guess I would think someone with an English degree might try to be more articulate. As for me I'm hanging with my opinion before the season started which a pretty low bar. Stitt should get an extension if the Griz go 7-4 with either a playoff invitation or a win over the Cats. He can still do that. I really wish some school would offer him a job and he would take it but that isn't going to happen right now. In other words I disagree with you hypothesis that we are guaranteed another 2 years of mediocrity if he isn't retained. As has been noted previously on this forum, it is a FACT that first year coaches can win and win big.

 

[BWahlberg]

Anyone who cannot see the sharp upward tend line of this team either:

(a) has an agenda
or
(b) never played the game.

Kent’s got the pen ready.

:thumb:

And the 2018 / 2019 teams are going to be loaded with the same dudes. Big things ahead

Loaded with the same dudes who have underperformed on defense in a shitty BSC?

A BSC that’s looking to possibly send 4 teams to the post season? And does that mean you’re of the mindset that players don’t improve from year to year? Sims, Favoroso, Rodriguez, Olson, Fa’atuise, Epperly, and Nash all are showing we have a lot to look forward to, plus returning starters in Shaw, Buss, Sandry, and Sanders.

 

[PSLGriz]

Happy to put my football or other credentials up against yours. Let's hear your football pedigree.

I’m not the one in question here. I’m just doubting the claims of an anonymous poster on the internet.

But, could your dad beat up his dad?

My dad died when I was 10, but he did play football for BYU for a year and then a bit with the Griz. Don't know if he was tough, but he was a good athlete and grew up on the res.

First let me say it was nice chatting with you at the airport and our short trip on the Handicapped Golf cart lol. Hope you enjoyed your trip to Fenway.
I think this team is better than last year and not just on the field. They are very close. They believe in the coaches and their schemes and you can see it in their fight. They could easily be sitting 9-1 8-2. The Weber Game was the definition of Murphy's law in the 1st half. Those things happen and they almost fought their way out of it.The EWU game is "the one that got away".Cant help but think if it wasnt Gresch Jensen's 1st game as a starter, as great as he played he would have been even better with a few games under his belt we win.

Win the games you are supposed to win which up until they have done that. I want them to succeed and continue to improve. Win the next one and this is a moot point.

Hats off to you. I couldnt deal with some of the people on here regularly. There are people here who say outlandish things, rip coaches and players apart and when they are proven wrong they dont have the balls to get back on here and admit they were wrong.Its distasteful and ignorant.

 

[daGrizJ]

Yes, I believe Bob Stitt has earned a new contract. If for no other reason than, I feel he deserves a couple of years to develop the amazing batch of recruits he has persuaded to join the Griz. This team this year has shone some great potential with mostly underclassmen at the skill positions and on D.

The Cats are not a bad team. They gave NAU all they could handle last weekend. But, with our improved O line/run game, of which we had zero last year, and the D having the athletes to limit Murray, I think we come out of Bozo with a W.

 

[grizghost]

...stitt wins he gets a contract..there is no way in hell l would extend a contract to him if he
were to lose this game..l personally don't think the program would suffer if a new coach were
brought in..having said that l hope he wins and destroys the Cats! l want to bury this nightmare
from last year!

 

[Spanky]

Brint, since you observed many of the Big Sky teams play this year, are you of the opinion they are good football teams?

 

[AZGrizFan]

eGriz "Stitt needs to be fired" Arguments:

1) Can't win on the road. When he beats the 'scats on Saturday, he'll be 3-1 on the road this year in FCS games. Argument null and void.

2) Ended last season on a horrible slide and lost the locker room. When he beats the 'scats on Saturday he'll have ended THIS season winning 6 of 7, INCLUDING three road games. These players LOVE playing for him and it shows, both on the sidelines and in the locker room.

3) His defense sucks--they give up 30 points a game and 500 yards of offense a game and show no improvement and he won't fire Semore. Last four games, they're 3-1 and have given up 343, 298, 218 and 362 yards (306 average). 17, 41, 15, 14 points. They're 2nd in sacks. 1st in INT's. 2nd in RZ defense. 6th in YPG. 5th in rushing D.

4) He can't win the big game. NDSU, SDSU, EWU, MSU, NAU (and MSU this weekend). Okay, this one is a little week, but he hasn't had a ton of chances this year...EWU and WSU being the notable exceptions).

5) His offense is too complicated and too easily defended. This year they've scored 45, 56, 41, 45, 39, 41, 27, 17, 44. < 20 once. < 30 twice. > 40 SIX times. #1 in scoring offense. #4 in total offense. More RZ TD's than ANY TEAM in the conference.

6) He can't and won't make halftime adjustments. ISU: 21 points in 1st half, 10 in 2nd. WSU: 34 points in 1st half, 7 in 2nd. NAU: 172 yards in 1st half, 111 in 2nd. Weber: scored 6 in 1st half, 21 in 2nd half.

What else...I'm sure I'm missing some.

Haslam ought to be waiting in the tunnel to give Stitt a new 3-year contract after we smack down the skiddy kitties this weekend.

 

[Eriul]

Eriul » Mon Nov 13, 2017 4:23 pm
Those two posts were made about completely different topics and different times. They are correct with the exception of my one "probably." Are you just mad about something or are you just trying to find somewhere to analyze someone's points or posts on an informal forum? Even I do not do such analysis and I have an English degree...

Not mad, just pointing out that in one post you criticize a poster as being speculative after earlier posting something as speculative as this:

Eriul wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:42 am
Fact is simple... you don't extend stitt after this year and we get 2+ more years of the team being unranked.

Even adding the word "probably" doesn't make it better as it is just another degree of pure speculation - the word "possibly" would be far more accurate. I guess I would think someone with an English degree might try to be more articulate. As for me I'm hanging with my opinion before the season started which a pretty low bar. Stitt should get an extension if the Griz go 7-4 with either a playoff invitation or a win over the Cats. He can still do that. I really wish some school would offer him a job and he would take it but that isn't going to happen right now. In other words I disagree with you hypothesis that we are guaranteed another 2 years of mediocrity if he isn't retained. As has been noted previously on this forum, it is a FACT that first year coaches can win and win big.

Sorry, you're not going to get anywhere trying to critique my writing. Move on. It is very likely that I am much more qualified on the topic than you.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

I am pretty sure he is saying that with Cookus, NAU would have beat UM that day with Simis at QB. I see no mention of Phillips. Carry on.

read what he was referring to asshole.

some of your posts are so blatantly ignorant and arrogant it makes me wonder how you function in the real world.

And by the way, he was referring to you...the only person that even brought up the "if Cookus" and "if Phillips" in a post.

...

so... you're admitting you didn't initially read and now you're trying to prove my point for me? Thanks.

Not really. And by the way, NAU wins big if Cookus doesn't get booted. Now get all crampy.

 

[George Ferguson]

Brint, since you observed many of the Big Sky teams play this year, are you of the opinion they are good football teams?

I'm not Brint but I've watched a ton of games. I think Weber State is A very good football team. I think NAU's offense is VERY GOOD. Same with Eastern Washington. SUU is kind of a wildcard.

It's the world we live in though in football/sports. There's never any gray area. You WIN you're good, unless of course you;re the gRiz, who many of its own fan base never give them credit for winning just because they don't like who the head coach is. But mostly, it's W you're good, L you suck. And that's not always true. The best teams don't always win. The best players don't play well every single game. Sometimes, the medicore or bad teams/bad players, have the game of their life on knock off someone they're not supposed too. There is INDEED a gray area. Michael Jordan didn't always win, he missed THOUSANDS OF SHOTS. He's still the greatest. Roger Federer has never gone undefeated in an entire calender year. He never was able to win the grand slam, neither did Tiger. They are still greatest of all times.

Football is hard. It's hard to win games. So yes, there are damn good football teams in the Big Sky, including the Griz.

 

[Eriul]

...stitt wins he gets a contract..there is no way in hell l would extend a contract to him if he
were to lose this game..l personally don't think the program would suffer if a new coach were
brought in..having said that l hope he wins and destroys the Cats! l want to bury this nightmare
from last year!

I can understand this mindset even if I don't necessarily agree.

Just a slight counterpoint however... I think Stitt has brought in great recruiting classes and has also developed a great team environment that everyone has bought into. We've seen many examples of this with Phillips going down and the whole team being on the field. During the NAU game, the team was hyped up for back ups making plays and everyone was so supportive.

Do you think this can be emulated or improved on with a new regime?

Not intending to argue your mindset, I am just curious.

 

[Eriul]

read what he was referring to asshole.

some of your posts are so blatantly ignorant and arrogant it makes me wonder how you function in the real world.

And by the way, he was referring to you...the only person that even brought up the "if Cookus" and "if Phillips" in a post.

...

so... you're admitting you didn't initially read and now you're trying to prove my point for me? Thanks.

Not really. And by the way, NAU wins big if Cookus doesn't get booted. Now get all crampy.

You got it dude... Keep stewing in your ignorance. Maybe one day you'll become somebody :thumb:

 

[George Ferguson]

eGriz "Stitt needs to be fired" Arguments:

1) Can't win on the road. When he beats the 'scats on Saturday, he'll be 3-1 on the road this year in FCS games. Argument null and void.

2) Ended last season on a horrible slide and lost the locker room. When he beats the 'scats on Saturday he'll have ended THIS season winning 6 of 7, INCLUDING three road games. These players LOVE playing for him and it shows, both on the sidelines and in the locker room.

3) His defense sucks--they give up 30 points a game and 500 yards of offense a game and show no improvement and he won't fire Semore. Last four games, they're 3-1 and have given up 343, 298, 218 and 362 yards (306 average). 17, 41, 15, 14 points. They're 2nd in sacks. 1st in INT's. 2nd in RZ defense. 6th in YPG. 5th in rushing D.

4) He can't win the big game. NDSU, SDSU, EWU, MSU, NAU (and MSU this weekend). Okay, this one is a little week, but he hasn't had a ton of chances this year...EWU and WSU being the notable exceptions).

5) His offense is too complicated and too easily defended. This year they've scored 45, 56, 41, 45, 39, 41, 27, 17, 44. < 20 once. < 30 twice. > 40 SIX times. #1 in scoring offense. #4 in total offense. More RZ TD's than ANY TEAM in the conference.

6) He can't and won't make halftime adjustments. ISU: 21 points in 1st half, 10 in 2nd. WSU: 34 points in 1st half, 7 in 2nd. NAU: 172 yards in 1st half, 111 in 2nd. Weber: scored 6 in 1st half, 21 in 2nd half.

What else...I'm sure I'm missing some.

Haslam ought to be waiting in the tunnel to give Stitt a new 3-year contract after we smack down the skiddy kitties this weekend.

Great observations AZ. I'll say this, I don't believe for one second Stitt's future is riding on this game. I believe he will be the coach next season even IF they lose to the Cats. And part of me thinks the Griz will lose to the Cats, for two reasons. 1. Murray's legs. I know, it seems stupid that you can't shut that down, but, no one really has much. And it's mostly on third and long. It will drive me to insanity on Saturday. 2. I feel it's finally time for the Cats to win one on their home field. The superstition/fate thing. I'm a Cubs fan so I get spooky like that.

Having said that, I think Stitt will be back next season, no matter what happens on Saturday IF he wants to come back. I know that annoys a lot of people who think he should be fired for losing to the Cats two years in a row, but, I just disagree. I'm starting to like more and more what he's doing with the entire PROGRAM, not just on a game by game basis. Especially after taling to the redshirts every week. Man, you should hear what those guys have to say about him, and the entire coaching staff.

 

[PlayerRep]

Eriul » Mon Nov 13, 2017 4:23 pm
Those two posts were made about completely different topics and different times. They are correct with the exception of my one "probably." Are you just mad about something or are you just trying to find somewhere to analyze someone's points or posts on an informal forum? Even I do not do such analysis and I have an English degree...

Not mad, just pointing out that in one post you criticize a poster as being speculative after earlier posting something as speculative as this:

Eriul wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:42 am
Fact is simple... you don't extend stitt after this year and we get 2+ more years of the team being unranked.

Even adding the word "probably" doesn't make it better as it is just another degree of pure speculation - the word "possibly" would be far more accurate. I guess I would think someone with an English degree might try to be more articulate. As for me I'm hanging with my opinion before the season started which a pretty low bar. Stitt should get an extension if the Griz go 7-4 with either a playoff invitation or a win over the Cats. He can still do that. I really wish some school would offer him a job and he would take it but that isn't going to happen right now. In other words I disagree with you hypothesis that we are guaranteed another 2 years of mediocrity if he isn't retained. As has been noted previously on this forum, it is a FACT that first year coaches can win and win big.

Did anyone really believe that Eriul actually believed that what she said was a "fact"?

 

[Spanky]

George, thanks for your answer. My opinion is, with a couple of exceptions, most of the Big Sky teams are not very good.
However, no doubt, Montana has improved, but is the team even close to the standard of Bobby Hauck coached teams in all phases of the game?

 

[Eriul]

Eriul » Mon Nov 13, 2017 4:23 pm
Those two posts were made about completely different topics and different times. They are correct with the exception of my one "probably." Are you just mad about something or are you just trying to find somewhere to analyze someone's points or posts on an informal forum? Even I do not do such analysis and I have an English degree...

Not mad, just pointing out that in one post you criticize a poster as being speculative after earlier posting something as speculative as this:

Eriul wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:42 am
Fact is simple... you don't extend stitt after this year and we get 2+ more years of the team being unranked.

Even adding the word "probably" doesn't make it better as it is just another degree of pure speculation - the word "possibly" would be far more accurate. I guess I would think someone with an English degree might try to be more articulate. As for me I'm hanging with my opinion before the season started which a pretty low bar. Stitt should get an extension if the Griz go 7-4 with either a playoff invitation or a win over the Cats. He can still do that. I really wish some school would offer him a job and he would take it but that isn't going to happen right now. In other words I disagree with you hypothesis that we are guaranteed another 2 years of mediocrity if he isn't retained. As has been noted previously on this forum, it is a FACT that first year coaches can win and win big.

Did anyone really believe that Eriul actually believed that what she said was a "fact"?

It is a fact if I added the word probably but it’s really just someone trying to over analyze too much. I guess you can’t be informal on this board. I have to stop posting on my phone and make sure I have every single point clearly laid out perfectly just in case some guy wants to be dumb :roll:

 

[PlayerRep]

I’m not the one in question here. I’m just doubting the claims of an anonymous poster on the internet.

But, could your dad beat up his dad?

My dad died when I was 10, but he did play football for BYU for a year and then a bit with the Griz. Don't know if he was tough, but he was a good athlete and grew up on the res.

First let me say it was nice chatting with you at the airport and our short trip on the Handicapped Golf cart lol. Hope you enjoyed your trip to Fenway.
I think this team is better than last year and not just on the field. They are very close. They believe in the coaches and their schemes and you can see it in their fight. They could easily be sitting 9-1 8-2. The Weber Game was the definition of Murphy's law in the 1st half. Those things happen and they almost fought their way out of it.The EWU game is "the one that got away".Cant help but think if it wasnt Gresch Jensen's 1st game as a starter, as great as he played he would have been even better with a few games under his belt we win.

Win the games you are supposed to win which up until they have done that. I want them to succeed and continue to improve. Win the next one and this is a moot point.

Hats off to you. I couldnt deal with some of the people on here regularly. There are people here who say outlandish things, rip coaches and players apart and when they are proven wrong they dont have the balls to get back on here and admit they were wrong.Its distasteful and ignorant.

I agree with you on the team. They are good and are close to being very good. With Phillips and some luck, they would be 9-1 now, in my view. As I keep saying, it's the heart that I saw in the Weber game that made me realize that the team had the potential to go somewhere. It was very evident again in the NAU game. Now they need to beat the Cats, which I believe they will.

It was nice chatting with you too. Fenway and related activities were great.

 

[PlayerRep]

Eriul » Mon Nov 13, 2017 4:23 pm
Those two posts were made about completely different topics and different times. They are correct with the exception of my one "probably." Are you just mad about something or are you just trying to find somewhere to analyze someone's points or posts on an informal forum? Even I do not do such analysis and I have an English degree...

Not mad, just pointing out that in one post you criticize a poster as being speculative after earlier posting something as speculative as this:

Eriul wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:42 am
Fact is simple... you don't extend stitt after this year and we get 2+ more years of the team being unranked.

Even adding the word "probably" doesn't make it better as it is just another degree of pure speculation - the word "possibly" would be far more accurate. I guess I would think someone with an English degree might try to be more articulate. As for me I'm hanging with my opinion before the season started which a pretty low bar. Stitt should get an extension if the Griz go 7-4 with either a playoff invitation or a win over the Cats. He can still do that. I really wish some school would offer him a job and he would take it but that isn't going to happen right now. In other words I disagree with you hypothesis that we are guaranteed another 2 years of mediocrity if he isn't retained. As has been noted previously on this forum, it is a FACT that first year coaches can win and win big.

Did anyone really believe that Eriul actually believed that what she said was a "fact"?

It is a fact if I added the word probably but it’s really just someone trying to over analyze too much. I guess you can’t be informal on this board. I have to stop posting on my phone and make sure I have every single point clearly laid out perfectly just in case some guy wants to be dumb :roll:

Some of these guys are dumb without even trying, and some try to be dumb, is my view.

I'm still trying to figure out if you ever played the game. Ha.

 

[BWahlberg]

Brint, since you observed many of the Big Sky teams play this year, are you of the opinion they are good football teams?

I'm not Brint but I've watched a ton of games. I think Weber State is A very good football team. I think NAU's offense is VERY GOOD. Same with Eastern Washington. SUU is kind of a wildcard.

It's the world we live in though in football/sports. There's never any gray area. You WIN you're good, unless of course you;re the gRiz, who many of its own fan base never give them credit for winning just because they don't like who the head coach is. But mostly, it's W you're good, L you suck. And that's not always true. The best teams don't always win. The best players don't play well every single game. Sometimes, the medicore or bad teams/bad players, have the game of their life on knock off someone they're not supposed too. There is INDEED a gray area. Michael Jordan didn't always win, he missed THOUSANDS OF SHOTS. He's still the greatest. Roger Federer has never gone undefeated in an entire calender year. He never was able to win the grand slam, neither did Tiger. They are still greatest of all times.

Football is hard. It's hard to win games. So yes, there are damn good football teams in the Big Sky, including the Griz.

Kind of echos my thoughts too. I don't personally think that there's any team in the conference that could contend for a title, but I could see a few being dangerous.

I think Weber is the best overall team in the Big Sky. Their one conference loss came because their starting QB got knocked out of the game early (and Weber was leading at the time). Weber has one of the most athletic and aggressive defenses I've seen in a while. Kind of reminds me of the 2011 Griz defense. I could see Weber winning a few playoff games and going the furthest of all Big Sky teams in the playoffs. I also think they'll have learned from last years post-season letdown.

SUU I have no idea on, however their resume is pretty good, especially if they beat NAU this weekend. They'll have beat EWU, NAU, Weber, and UNI in an ooc game. However I've only seen 1 half of football from them (2nd half EWU game) and they didn't really stand out to me as some amazing group. They've also just completed a 3 week run through some of the weaker teams in the conference (UNC/UND/UCD), so it'll be quite the game between them and NAU where both are playing for a share of the conference championship and fighting for a post season birth.

NAU I think is a little too beat up to be a real threat. Cookus is neck and neck with Gubrud in consideration for best QB in the conference but without Butler and with a hobbled Marks his targets are marginal in the passing game. What NAU has that EWU doesn't is a good defense but their overall conference schedule this season has turned out to be really soft. They did play ranked WIU and somehow still ranked Illinois State, but their conference wins are against Poly (12th), Portland (13th), Davis (8th), Sac (6th), and Montana State (7th). That mean their "best" conference win is Sac State.

EWU is a somewhat flawed team that's kind of propped up by Gubrud's pure talent. Real "iffy" defense. I honestly think if they played Montana now vs when they did (Gresch's first start & Griz defense improved) the Griz would have beat them, but that's the way it goes.