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Best formula for returning to national dominance

2011BisonAlumni said:
CDAGRIZ said:
2011BisonAlumni said:
CDAGRIZ said:
Agreed. Carve out LA, and Southern California would be great!

Lol the entire state is a cess pool of worthless pathetic liberals. Beautiful state filled with f***[*] pathetic losers. Is that why you spend the vast majority of your free time on egriz.com?

No, it's the reason you spend the vast majority of your free time on eGriz.com. Thanks for stopping by.

That said. You win. Bismarck is better than Newport Beach.

-Nobody Ever

I completely understand why you are such a fucking douche bag. Honestly can't hold it against you. If you live in that area I think you just slowly become a fucking retard. I do not nor ever have lived in Bismarck, but I would much rather live in a state that allows me to be a free citizen.

Class as always. Thanks for stopping by for the better part of your night! :thumb:
 
CDAGRIZ said:
ordigger said:
CDAGRIZ said:
ordigger said:
Yep LA sucks, on that we can agree.

Haha! I hate LA proper. Some other areas, however, can be quite nice.
Have fun on the oil rig!

Fortunately I've continued working. Many have not, and are hurting, but I think we've seen the bottom.

I think so, too. I commend you. Are you still in the GOM?

Probably not as I don't know what GOM means (Gulf of Mexico?)....lol. I'm working Anadarko Basin in Oklahoma.
 
ordigger said:
CDAGRIZ said:
ordigger said:
CDAGRIZ said:
Haha! I hate LA proper. Some other areas, however, can be quite nice.
Have fun on the oil rig!

Fortunately I've continued working. Many have not, and are hurting, but I think we've seen the bottom.

I think so, too. I commend you. Are you still in the GOM?

Probably not as I don't know what GOM means....lol. I'm working Andarko Basin in Oklahoma.

Nice. I thought you were in the Gulf of Mexico a while back. My bad.
 
CDAGRIZ said:
ordigger said:
CDAGRIZ said:
ordigger said:
Fortunately I've continued working. Many have not, and are hurting, but I think we've seen the bottom.

I think so, too. I commend you. Are you still in the GOM?

Probably not as I don't know what GOM means....lol. I'm working Andarko Basin in Oklahoma.

Nice. I thought you were in the Gulf of Mexico a while back. My bad.

Houston area last summer.
 
bgbigdog said:
Reads offense wasn't ground & pound - got the first Natty. Glenn's was closer, and that team could play defense.
Read's NC was the result of an outstanding defensive effort against a very potent Marshall offense.
 
Umista said:
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One point always missed by male posters is the overall fact that many female fans love to watch football games among others that are not astute football experts. Hence they love to see the ball in the air and they get to enjoy the game much more. Running the ball is often not followed by these types of fans and they end up seeing a pile of players at the end of the run while not having a clue who had the ball or what just happend. Since the days of Don Read I have changed my views and have noted far more fans get to enjoy the game via the passing team vs the run up the gut style. One reason for the many fans at Wa-Griz is watching the "air offense" along with winning of course but some men need to notice the obvious and get in the game. Eh?
So that's why the Alabama stands always look so empty with very few southern belles. I wondered.
 
BadlandsGrizFan said:
2011BisonAlumni said:
BadlandsGrizFan said:
Atlanta Griz1 said:
Yeah, and it worked so well last year! :roll:

Stitt also wants to use the hurry-up offense to wear down the defense and score quickly, which places the defense back on the field.

Defense wins championships, and it is proven every year in college and the NFL. Gimmick offenses don't.

It beat the national champion!

Not when it counted. Talk to me next December.

I would say our 1st year coach batting .500 against the beezon is a pretty good start. Most coaches in the country aren't so lucky!
Lucky was the first encounter; total embarrassment was the second encounter.
 
NDSU key to recruiting is WI MN NE not having any other programs in state besides the Big 10 program that recruit nationally. With those state's populations and 1 D-1 team in each state, with NDSU on MN border they are MN state in many ways. When ndsu was 3-8 7 years ago or so, Bohl really got some studs out of the Cities that should have been at Gophers. Ex-gopher coach Brewster should have a few of those national championship rings for how bad of a local recruiter he was. How Nebraska missed on MLB Deluca in with that size and speed coming out of high school is ridiculous

Also I didn't realize until recently as some close to Bison program told me that some special players like Williams and Crockett couldn't get into those schools academically and ndsu had lower standards to get in. Never knew that.
 
srgrizizen said:
Amazing that it took this long for someone to post a comment based on the brilliant observation that great offenses and defenses are not mutually exclusive. Just because you like fun, wide open offense doesn't mean you're necessarily neglecting the defense. If the Griz did develop the best defense in the FCS, I think some posters would want the 1957 Woody Hayes offense to compliment it. Yeah, it would work, but it wouldn't be necessary. :coffee:
Do you have a list of championship teams with wide open offenses and shut down defenses?
 
Herd said:
Youre Montana, show some self respect and run a power offense, would ya. This Stit ain't goona fly. Get a big running back, and a bigger one in front of him, and run the damn ball.
A tight end would help, too.
 
kemajic said:
bgbigdog said:
Reads offense wasn't ground & pound - got the first Natty. Glenn's was closer, and that team could play defense.
Read's NC was the result of an outstanding defensive effort against a very potent Marshall offense.

Agree the defense was crucial, as it was in 2001. But you also recall the road to WV was paved with three teams they hung 45-70 on while playing some defense. Marshall was significantly more potent when Moss arrived though.
 
2011BisonAlumni said:
CDAGRIZ said:
ordigger said:
CDAGRIZ said:
Only much shittier.

Yep LA sucks, on that we can agree.

Haha! I hate LA proper. Some other areas, however, can be quite nice.
Have fun on the oil rig!

Hope the San Andreas fault finally has a big one and that city and their worthless liberal socialists drops into the ocean.
Man I wish, those sick CNN programmed robots need a couple million dead ASAP
 
ALPHAGRIZ1 said:
2011BisonAlumni said:
CDAGRIZ said:
ordigger said:
Yep LA sucks, on that we can agree.

Haha! I hate LA proper. Some other areas, however, can be quite nice.
Have fun on the oil rig!

Hope the San Andreas fault finally has a big one and that city and their worthless liberal socialists drops into the ocean.
Man I wish, those sick CNN programmed robots need a couple million dead ASAP

Hey, fuckface! Not all of us are that way. Maybe some of us just don't like winter . . .
 
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BWahlberg said:
Hey look it's growler posting the same topic he posts every 2-3 months on MB as well! Up next, how to win in-state recruiting!

I like how he basically just says give us Hauck's offense with Breske's defense, waive a wand, make it so, and we'll win. He doesn't take into account that programs change, offenses have become more dynamic, defenses plan better, there's newer and more innovative systems and designs out there that the old "blunt force" approach doesn't work well.

NDSU and Alabama win a crap-ton of games because of many things and yes winning at the line of scrimmage is part of it. But if someone thinks they're just saying, "run the ball well and don't let the other guys score much" like Growler is saying here... well you're not looking at the whole picture.

And FWIW I REALLY like what this coaching staff is doing here and what they're building towards.


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CDAGRIZ said:
BWahlberg said:
Hey look it's growler posting the same topic he posts every 2-3 months on MB as well! Up next, how to win in-state recruiting!

I like how he basically just says give us Hauck's offense with Breske's defense, waive a wand, make it so, and we'll win.

I've been around here a while. Not as long as you have, but a while. I seem to remember Wolfman hating Hauck's system as well.
For sure. Azgriz, wolfman, seattlegriz ect was one of Haucks biggest critics, yet in his post he described Haucks system to a T!! WTF?? :lol:
 
Glendivegriz said:
BWahlberg said:
Hey look it's growler posting the same topic he posts every 2-3 months on MB as well! Up next, how to win in-state recruiting!

I like how he basically just says give us Hauck's offense with Breske's defense, waive a wand, make it so, and we'll win. He doesn't take into account that programs change, offenses have become more dynamic, defenses plan better, there's newer and more innovative systems and designs out there that the old "blunt force" approach doesn't work well.

NDSU and Alabama win a crap-ton of games because of many things and yes winning at the line of scrimmage is part of it. But if someone thinks they're just saying, "run the ball well and don't let the other guys score much" like Growler is saying here... well you're not looking at the whole picture.

And FWIW I REALLY like what this coaching staff is doing here and what they're building towards.


As much as it pains me, I agree with Growler. Just thinking back, to establish a dynasty type program, the blunt force approach does seem to work the best. Oklahoma is a great example. In 2001, they won their last championship. The offense was decent and rather workman like, but the defense was stifling. Since then, they have had numerous high flying offensive schemes, Heisman winners, NFL players and no championship. The defense is exposed by the fast break offense against teams of equal talent. The defense is on the field way to much and wears down. The offenses lack of ability to hunker down and run the ball consistently is the key in my opinion. Approaches like Alabama, LSU, Florida, and U.S.C..

In the NFL, Seattle had it run by a grind it out run game and superior defense. Denver this year compared to two years ago is a totally different philosophy.

Of course you agree, because my points are 100% valid. But Wally world and his legion of merry men continue to buy into the Stitt hype. This guy has shown me nothing so far. We'll see next year if he learned anything about coaching at the FCS level.

What is so funny is that, if Ash had lost two games because of coaching blunders like Stitt did, these same knuckleheads would be burning up the keyboards making fun of how bad the Cats coach is. It sure would be refreshing to have some objective Griz fans on this site, but it is just not to be. Thankfully, most of the rest of Griz nation gets it.
 
RobGriz said:
AZGrizFan said:
Atlanta Griz1 said:
RobGriz said:
Nothing like regurgitating common knowledge and posting it as an original thought.

Just demonstrating what a pedestrian fan you are. Many many Griz fans love Stitt's aerial circus, and think that his approach is the formula for a National Championship. I give solid reasons why it is NOT. Yet you accuse me of "regurgitating common knowledge". Weak shit SlobGriz. Let's see what YOU got for us to return us to the glory years. I won't hold my breath.

Here's my formula: Have an offensive aerial circus that puts tons of points on the board AND have a shutdown defense that doesn't give up points.

You tend to win a lot of games when you score more points than the other guy.
You're obviously a "pedestrian" fan... 8-)

And that's something you can identify with. :coffee:
 
CDAGRIZ said:
BWahlberg said:
Hey look it's growler posting the same topic he posts every 2-3 months on MB as well! Up next, how to win in-state recruiting!

I like how he basically just says give us Hauck's offense with Breske's defense, waive a wand, make it so, and we'll win.

I've been around here a while. Not as long as you have, but a while. I seem to remember Wolfman hating Hauck's system as well.

I didn't hate Hauck's system. Pay attention. I hated Hauck for being a dick, and hated the thugs he brought into the program.
 
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