Beau Baldwin

[LongTimeCatFan]

The published rate, so I guess just the jobs the govt knows about.

I'm not sure of the figure, but I know it's substantially lower than the other number.
I seem to remember it being in the 25%-35% range for jobs involving the grad's area of study.

And to compare that with UM and MSU?

There is a perceived value of education at UM and MSU, which exceeds that at EWU.

I'm just taking a wild shot in the dark, but I'd guess that not only are the placement rates higher, but I'd bet the earnings rate is higher with UM and MSU graduates.

I bet you would be punctilious in assuming that. There's really no reason to go to college if your terminal degree is going to be from EWU.

I agree.

I think that's an area egriz and BN can enlighten prospective recruits on. There is no reason, none, that EWU should ever beat MSU or UM on head to head recruiting, EVER.

If we had a spreadsheet that compared this data to other schools in our conference as well as the top 25 in FCS, I'd think that sort of information would be quite useful to a prospective student athlete.

 

[Ursa Major]

I'm not sure of the figure, but I know it's substantially lower than the other number.
I seem to remember it being in the 25%-35% range for jobs involving the grad's area of study.

And to compare that with UM and MSU?

There is a perceived value of education at UM and MSU, which exceeds that at EWU.

I'm just taking a wild shot in the dark, but I'd guess that not only are the placement rates higher, but I'd bet the earnings rate is higher with UM and MSU graduates.

I bet you would be punctilious in assuming that. There's really no reason to go to college if your terminal degree is going to be from EWU.

I agree.

I think that's an area egriz and BN can enlighten prospective recruits on. There is no reason, none, that EWU should ever beat MSU or UM on head to head recruiting, EVER.

There is one. Prop 48.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

And to compare that with UM and MSU?

There is a perceived value of education at UM and MSU, which exceeds that at EWU.

I'm just taking a wild shot in the dark, but I'd guess that not only are the placement rates higher, but I'd bet the earnings rate is higher with UM and MSU graduates.

I bet you would be punctilious in assuming that. There's really no reason to go to college if your terminal degree is going to be from EWU.

I agree.

I think that's an area egriz and BN can enlighten prospective recruits on. There is no reason, none, that EWU should ever beat MSU or UM on head to head recruiting, EVER.

There is one. Prop 48.

Can anyone remember UM/MSU taking a Prop 48 non-qualifier? It seems like EWU takes more than any school I've seen.

It had been a while since I looked at the reg, so I just did. If you get a 3.0 in high school, you need only a 620 M+V on the SAT to qualify. 620! I think that's about 8%-10% correct.

 

[EverettGriz]

Just curious.... Anybody know the job placement rate at EWU?

It's really quite high. There's a ready demand for meth salesmen.

 

[blazerbird]

Ask, and you shall receive. Here is a link to Eastern's earnings information http://www.erdcdata.wa.gov/esmfieldofstudy.aspx and Montana State's http://www.montana.edu/wwwcp/destinations.html. Sadly, I was unable to find Montana's. It is easy enough to compare specific data at MSU and EWU, but overall data show that an MSU grad with a bachelor's degree earns over $10,000 more outside the state of Montana. I suspect this holds true for UM graduates. Keep in mind these data are from 2012. As for Prop. 48 students athletes, Eastern had 5 at the end of 2013http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2013/nov/28/study-buddy/. 5 out of 307, or less t han 2%. I'll dig up Montana's when I get a chance.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Ask, and you shall receive. Here is a link to Eastern's earnings information http://www.erdcdata.wa.gov/esmfieldofstudy.aspx and Montana State's http://www.montana.edu/wwwcp/destinations.html. Sadly, I was unable to find Montana's. It is easy enough to compare specific data at MSU and EWU, but overall data show that an MSU grad with a bachelor's degree earns over $10,000 more outside the state of Montana. I suspect this holds true for UM graduates. Keep in mind these data are from 2012. As for Prop. 48 students athletes, Eastern had 5 at the end of 2013http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2013/nov/28/study-buddy/. 5 out of 307, or less t han 2%. I'll dig up Montana's when I get a chance.

Holy shit, you guys have 5 Prop 48s! I was thinking maybe 2 or 3. Any one of us could spray fart on a bubble sheet and have a good chance at beating 620 M+V.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

I'll dig up Montana's when I get a chance.

 

[go96griz]

I bet you would be punctilious in assuming that. There's really no reason to go to college if your terminal degree is going to be from EWU.

I agree.

I think that's an area egriz and BN can enlighten prospective recruits on. There is no reason, none, that EWU should ever beat MSU or UM on head to head recruiting, EVER.

There is one. Prop 48.

Can anyone remember UM/MSU taking a Prop 48 non-qualifier? It seems like EWU takes more than any school I've seen.

It had been a while since I looked at the reg, so I just did. If you get a 3.0 in high school, you need only a 620 M+V on the SAT to qualify. 620! I think that's about 8%-10% correct.

Dan Moore was a non-qualifier out of high school. I'm thinking there have been a couple more in the last 15 years or so, but names are escaping me right now. Technically, they're not called prop 48 anymore, they are just called non-qualifiers.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

I agree.

I think that's an area egriz and BN can enlighten prospective recruits on. There is no reason, none, that EWU should ever beat MSU or UM on head to head recruiting, EVER.

There is one. Prop 48.

Can anyone remember UM/MSU taking a Prop 48 non-qualifier? It seems like EWU takes more than any school I've seen.

It had been a while since I looked at the reg, so I just did. If you get a 3.0 in high school, you need only a 620 M+V on the SAT to qualify. 620! I think that's about 8%-10% correct.

Dan Moore was a non-qualifier out of high school. I'm thinking there have been a couple more in the last 15 years or so, but names are escaping me right now. Technically, they're not called prop 48 anymore, they are just called non-qualifiers.

Thanks. No worries on the others. Blazerbird is on it, right Double B?

 

[info]

There is one. Prop 48.

Can anyone remember UM/MSU taking a Prop 48 non-qualifier? It seems like EWU takes more than any school I've seen.

It had been a while since I looked at the reg, so I just did. If you get a 3.0 in high school, you need only a 620 M+V on the SAT to qualify. 620! I think that's about 8%-10% correct.

Dan Moore was a non-qualifier out of high school. I'm thinking there have been a couple more in the last 15 years or so, but names are escaping me right now. Technically, they're not called prop 48 anymore, they are just called non-qualifiers.

Thanks. No worries on the others. Blazerbird is on it, right Double B?

Moore was a non-qualifier because he was allowed to take a Journalism class in lieu of a fourth year of English, as a result he didn't have the minimum of four years of high school English in order to be an NCAA qualifier. His H.S. screwed up, they were not aware of the rule. I think Manu R was the victim of the same rule . In fact, I believe his parents are considering legal action against his H.S.

 

[UMGriz75]

Dan Moore. Just because I like the picture ...

 

[WaGriz4life]

Ask, and you shall receive. Here is a link to Eastern's earnings information http://www.erdcdata.wa.gov/esmfieldofstudy.aspx and Montana State's http://www.montana.edu/wwwcp/destinations.html. Sadly, I was unable to find Montana's. It is easy enough to compare specific data at MSU and EWU, but overall data show that an MSU grad with a bachelor's degree earns over $10,000 more outside the state of Montana. I suspect this holds true for UM graduates. Keep in mind these data are from 2012. As for Prop. 48 students athletes, Eastern had 5 at the end of 2013http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2013/nov/28/study-buddy/. 5 out of 307, or less t han 2%. I'll dig up Montana's when I get a chance.

Holy shit, you guys have 5 Prop 48s! I was thinking maybe 2 or 3. Any one of us could spray fart on a bubble sheet and have a good chance at beating 620 M+V.

It's funny how he said that like it's not a large number. How Rodney Stuckey was admitted is still a mystery.

 

[UMGriz75]

Starting salary with bachelor's degree

1.Montana Tech of The University of Montana State School, Engineering $68,400
2 Montana State University - Main Campus State School, $48,900
3 Carroll College - Helena, MT Religious $47,200
4 University of Montana State School, $38,600
5 Montana State University - Billings Campus State School $38,400

Note that our engineering school is much higher for starting salaries than their engineering school. Several undergrad UM degrees are preparatory, and so students from those fields who take a starting salary with just their bachelors do tend to be low -- because they are not completing their field option. And yes, gender and ethnic studies, etc ....

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Ask, and you shall receive. Here is a link to Eastern's earnings information http://www.erdcdata.wa.gov/esmfieldofstudy.aspx and Montana State's http://www.montana.edu/wwwcp/destinations.html. Sadly, I was unable to find Montana's. It is easy enough to compare specific data at MSU and EWU, but overall data show that an MSU grad with a bachelor's degree earns over $10,000 more outside the state of Montana. I suspect this holds true for UM graduates. Keep in mind these data are from 2012. As for Prop. 48 students athletes, Eastern had 5 at the end of 2013http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2013/nov/28/study-buddy/. 5 out of 307, or less t han 2%. I'll dig up Montana's when I get a chance.

Holy shit, you guys have 5 Prop 48s! I was thinking maybe 2 or 3. Any one of us could spray fart on a bubble sheet and have a good chance at beating 620 M+V.

It's funny how he said that like it's not a large number. How Rodney Stuckey was admitted is still a mystery.

It's easy when the administration doesn't care about academic reputation. Get them to Cheney in a joke major so they can make grades, and in a year you will have a player you would NEVER have had a chance at getting if he was just a bit smarter. He will leave Cheney with absolutely no connection or loyalty to EWU because it was a stepping stone commuter school he NEVER wanted to attend.

The C student commuter school reputation hurts EWU on a university-wide level as well. Nobody cares about EWU once they leave via graduation or attrition. Case in point: They have been solid for 4 out of the last 5 seasons with one NC and three BSC Championships, and they still have zero fan base. I'm trying to think of another school in that situation and I'm drawing a blank.

 

[EverettGriz]

Ask, and you shall receive. Here is a link to Eastern's earnings information http://www.erdcdata.wa.gov/esmfieldofstudy.aspx and Montana State's http://www.montana.edu/wwwcp/destinations.html. Sadly, I was unable to find Montana's. It is easy enough to compare specific data at MSU and EWU, but overall data show that an MSU grad with a bachelor's degree earns over $10,000 more outside the state of Montana. I suspect this holds true for UM graduates. Keep in mind these data are from 2012. As for Prop. 48 students athletes, Eastern had 5 at the end of 2013http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2013/nov/28/study-buddy/. 5 out of 307, or less t han 2%. I'll dig up Montana's when I get a chance.

Holy shit, you guys have 5 Prop 48s! I was thinking maybe 2 or 3. Any one of us could spray fart on a bubble sheet and have a good chance at beating 620 M+V.

That's damn funny!!

 

[Grizbeer]

Anyone see how EWU did in the latest Business Journals ranking of public universities? UM took a bit of a hit due to diversity (1star) due to too many women and not enough out of state students. I saw UW was near the top of the list, EWU should be at least 3rd on the list of public universities in Washington State right?

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Anyone see how EWU did in the latest Business Journals ranking of public universities? UM took a bit of a hit due to diversity (1star) due to too many women and not enough out of state students. I saw UW was near the top of the list, EWU should be at least 3rd on the list of public universities in Washington State right?

I did catch that. Unfortunately, Eastern was ranked last among public universities in Washington behind UW, WSU, WWU, Evergreen State, and CWU. In fact, EWU was ranked so far below the rest of the bunch that it was in a different category called "Lower Echelon." Interestingly enough, "universities" in the "Lower Echelon" are not hyperlinked, and thus, do not have profiles on the website.

Read more here:
http://www.bizjournals.com/bizjourn...ankings-of-public-colleges-in-washington.html

 

[LongTimeCatFan]

Anyone see how EWU did in the latest Business Journals ranking of public universities? UM took a bit of a hit due to diversity (1star) due to too many women and not enough out of state students. I saw UW was near the top of the list, EWU should be at least 3rd on the list of public universities in Washington State right?

I did catch that. Unfortunately, Eastern was ranked last among public universities in Washington behind UW, WSU, WWU, Evergreen State, and CWU. In fact, EWU was ranked so far below the rest of the bunch that it was in a different category called "Lower Echelon." Interestingly enough, "universities" in the "Lower Echelon" are not hyperlinked, and thus, do not have profiles on the website.

Read more here:
http://www.bizjournals.com/bizjourn...ankings-of-public-colleges-in-washington.html

:lol:

You just can't make this stuff up. Wow! Beer in the nose.

 

[Ursa Major]

Anyone see how EWU did in the latest Business Journals ranking of public universities? UM took a bit of a hit due to diversity (1star) due to too many women and not enough out of state students. I saw UW was near the top of the list, EWU should be at least 3rd on the list of public universities in Washington State right?

I did catch that. Unfortunately, Eastern was ranked last among public universities in Washington behind UW, WSU, WWU, Evergreen State, and CWU. In fact, EWU was ranked so far below the rest of the bunch that it was in a different category called "Lower Echelon." Interestingly enough, "universities" in the "Lower Echelon" are not hyperlinked, and thus, do not have profiles on the website.

Read more here:
http://www.bizjournals.com/bizjourn...ankings-of-public-colleges-in-washington.html

I'm not sure that is fair to not compare ewu with these other universities. I imagine ewu does quite well when compared to it's peer schools (e.g. Renton Technical College, Mukilteo School of Massage:"MSM").

 

[Ursa Major]

Dan Moore. Just because I like the picture ...

I love that photo! Which one of you bastards wrote the quote (after DM smashed and broke his helmet on the sidelines during the ewu game thread), "Dan mad. Dan break helmet. Dan sorry."

That still makes me laugh.