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Baer’s D after 2 games
- Thread starter Dutch Lane
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After 3 games:
#3 in scoring defense
#2 in pass defense efficiency
#9 in pass defense
#1 in run defense
#2 in total defense
#1 in sacks by
#3 in interceptions
Not many of us would have believed they’d been this good after two games with MVFC teams & one pretty good Pioneer league team. Not sure how long it lasts, but the defense has been great so far.
#3 in scoring defense
#2 in pass defense efficiency
#9 in pass defense
#1 in run defense
#2 in total defense
#1 in sacks by
#3 in interceptions
Not many of us would have believed they’d been this good after two games with MVFC teams & one pretty good Pioneer league team. Not sure how long it lasts, but the defense has been great so far.
PlayerRep said:
After watching the games, what is your opinion on why they just seem to struggle getting the QB without blitzing? Other teams oline? Scheme (more contained rush style vs.get to QB)? Personnel on D line not the "sack" type, more run stoppers?
Also, as a former db do you see problems coming if pressure isn't increased without the blitz factor with the current cb/safeties (ie live by blitz, die by blitz)?
Ursus1 said:
Don't really know. The opponents have seemed to have good or pretty o-lines, against the pass rush. They sometimes kept extra people in to block. They were like a stone wall at times. Often, UM hasn't gotten to the qb with the blitz either. The NI qb was very good at sensing pressure and turning away from it. At least, he wasn't looking downfield when he was turning and having to start his scramble.
I don't really watch the d-line or o-line. I don't know what UM's defensive and front 7 schemes are this year. Not sure what the 4th d-end/sometimes standup guy is supposed to do.
UM has lots of sacks, tho, altho many came against Drake.
Our front 7 are absolutely stuffing the run.
I like our secondary and our pass defense, with some glaring exceptions.
I like pressure, but it does expose holes in the secondary, especially if the blitz doesn't get there fast. I would keep pressuring, but have it coming from different places.
Maybe the problems is personnel; maybe it's scheme.
I suppose I could have said a lot of words by just saying I don't know.
What do you think?
I agree they seem like a wall against the run. I also think the personnel Baer likes up front are suited for that. Linebackers have done a great job hitting gaps created by the oline (seems like that might be the plan to occupy oline with dline and let the playmaker LBs get the actual tackles. Shaw may not have many tackles, but he is a major reason teams cant run inside he is occupying linemen and not getting pushed back. Seems we are winning the LOS on defense, like the opponents are on their defense. Dante has been stellar, dont think Buss is Buss yet? Lewis is a great run supporter. One thing is for sure they tackle far better than last year as a team.
PlayerRep said:
And Robby might have made some stupid penalties, been a little off in pass coverage at times, but he is great at run support and a sure tackler (personally have not seen him miss an attempt.....but ESPN+ coverage was tough to see what the hell was actually going on some times). He is green, but his ceiling is very high.
bgbigdog said:
Yeah, I’m not sure I buy the “not getting sacks”...we have 11 thru three games, along with 21 TFL’s....the way the D is designed it appears the line is not set up to get the sack’s, the LB’s are. Our LB core has 6.5 of the 11 sacks and 10.5 of the 21 TFL’s.
Ursus1 said:
Note that the late hit in the first game on the NI sideline was later determined by the conference to have not been a good call. He got a PI in that game on the receiver coming down the middle. I didn't see it, or a replay with the whole sequence, so don't have a view on whether it was a good call.
I don't recall what his other penalties were. What were they?
What’s your point? Have you watched any of the games? He’s played very well. He does start but plays only about 20 plays per game for now.PlayerRep said:
The NEC is a very different situation then the big sky. Only the division winner gets into the playoff. Non conference games and win/loss don’t matter.
The objective is to keep everyone healthy and fresh until conference play starts. When they do the starters will get the vast majority of the playing time.
The conference determined the late hit was not a good call? Seriously? Looked pretty late and obvious to me from where I was but I don't think I reviewed a replay of that particular hit.
Does the conference put out notes or something critiquing the officials each week?
Does the conference put out notes or something critiquing the officials each week?
signedbewildered said:
Teams submit a few plays each week to the conference, and the conference provides feedback to the teams. I doubt that any notes are put out publicly.
My view of the play, in real time and on the stadium replay, was that the flag should not have been thrown. I said that on the board, and was somewhat shouted down. The runner was running fast. It wasn't clear whether he would try to cut back, put his head down and take on the tackler, or step out of bounds. A defender has to be allowed to come into that situation at full speed. A defender coming full speed can't avoid contact if the runner starts to step out of bounds. While a defender has a sense pf the sideline, he isn't looking at the sideline or the feet of the runner; he is looking at the body of the runner. The particular hit was hard and it knocked the runner way out of the bounds. That, along with the chirping on the opponent bench, probably caused the flag, in my view. I thought the flag was thrown late too. I didn't have a great view, tho, as I was straight across the field in the upper deck.
Got it. Thanks. I'm one of them that was expecting a flag immediately but was in North End that game and didn't re-watch the particular play later.
Looked at that moment to have FLAG written all over it. I know if the tables were turned GRIZ fans would be having a fit if it wasn't called.
Looked at that moment to have FLAG written all over it. I know if the tables were turned GRIZ fans would be having a fit if it wasn't called.
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