Athlon College Football FCS Top 25

[Cats2506]

Good analysis, but you still have your head up your ass (or in the sand) to a certain degree, the 2012 version of the fizz was the first time in several years that I noticed a deficiency in depth, It was apparent not only at the QB position, but at RB, WR and in the secondary, I would also say that while you had a decent first level at LB, but you didn't have much behind them. I suspected that might happen when I noticed Pflu's recruiting strategies in his first year, the 2012 5-6 season was impacted more by that than by the loss of JJ, and the 2013 team will still be affected by depth deficiencies.

Also conversely I MSU is now able to field much better depth than they have in several years, remember that when Ash first arrived he MSU was down several scholarships due to APR, that and good recruiting have made a difference in depth.

The reason why FBS has much more depth than FCS is about 22 scholarships, that means one more scholarship player at each position.

I somewhat agree with you about certain points here, but RUNNING BACK? We were lacking depth at running back?? Dan Moore, Peter Nguyen, Jordan Canada, with Counts and Kirschner? C'mon man... :roll:

Didnt you guys burn a redshirt, when the others were injured or failed to produce

 

[MTGriz87]

Good analysis, but you still have your head up your ass (or in the sand) to a certain degree, the 2012 version of the fizz was the first time in several years that I noticed a deficiency in depth, It was apparent not only at the QB position, but at RB, WR and in the secondary, I would also say that while you had a decent first level at LB, but you didn't have much behind them. I suspected that might happen when I noticed Pflu's recruiting strategies in his first year, the 2012 5-6 season was impacted more by that than by the loss of JJ, and the 2013 team will still be affected by depth deficiencies.

Also conversely I MSU is now able to field much better depth than they have in several years, remember that when Ash first arrived he MSU was down several scholarships due to APR, that and good recruiting have made a difference in depth.

The reason why FBS has much more depth than FCS is about 22 scholarships, that means one more scholarship player at each position.

I somewhat agree with you about certain points here, but RUNNING BACK? We were lacking depth at running back?? Dan Moore, Peter Nguyen, Jordan Canada, with Counts and Kirschner? C'mon man... :roll:

Didnt you guys burn a redshirt, when the others were injured or failed to produce

*injured. Really didn't need to burn it IMO. You can pull 'failed to produce' out of your ass with no supporting evidence if you think it will help your case, but the fact is that there were not depth issues at RB last year. At other positions, yes - not RB. But as a typical Cat fan, I'm sure you will not admit you are full of it.

 

[Cats2506]

Good analysis, but you still have your head up your ass (or in the sand) to a certain degree, the 2012 version of the fizz was the first time in several years that I noticed a deficiency in depth, It was apparent not only at the QB position, but at RB, WR and in the secondary, I would also say that while you had a decent first level at LB, but you didn't have much behind them. I suspected that might happen when I noticed Pflu's recruiting strategies in his first year, the 2012 5-6 season was impacted more by that than by the loss of JJ, and the 2013 team will still be affected by depth deficiencies.

Also conversely I MSU is now able to field much better depth than they have in several years, remember that when Ash first arrived he MSU was down several scholarships due to APR, that and good recruiting have made a difference in depth.

The reason why FBS has much more depth than FCS is about 22 scholarships, that means one more scholarship player at each position.

I somewhat agree with you about certain points here, but RUNNING BACK? We were lacking depth at running back?? Dan Moore, Peter Nguyen, Jordan Canada, with Counts and Kirschner? C'mon man... :roll:

Didnt you guys burn a redshirt, when the others were injured or failed to produce

*injured. Really didn't need to burn it IMO. You can pull 'failed to produce' out of your ass with no supporting evidence if you think it will help your case, but the fact is that there were not depth issues at RB last year. At other positions, yes - not RB. But as a typical Cat fan, I'm sure you will not admit you are full of it.

You had Moore, a the little fumble fingers guy, after that you didn't have anything worth shit, Moore went down and your lack of "quality" depth showed

 

[BigSkyBears]

UNC should end up in the top 25 by season end. :thumb:

 

[grizfan95]

I somewhat agree with you about certain points here, but RUNNING BACK? We were lacking depth at running back?? Dan Moore, Peter Nguyen, Jordan Canada, with Counts and Kirschner? C'mon man... :roll:

Didnt you guys burn a redshirt, when the others were injured or failed to produce

*injured. Really didn't need to burn it IMO. You can pull 'failed to produce' out of your ass with no supporting evidence if you think it will help your case, but the fact is that there were not depth issues at RB last year. At other positions, yes - not RB. But as a typical Cat fan, I'm sure you will not admit you are full of it.

You had Moore, a the little fumble fingers guy, after that you didn't have anything worth shit, Moore went down and your lack of "quality" depth showed

I honestly can't wait for the trouncing that awaits Bozeman State Nov 23. The embarrassment is going to be epic.

 

[griz4life]

I somewhat agree with you about certain points here, but RUNNING BACK? We were lacking depth at running back?? Dan Moore, Peter Nguyen, Jordan Canada, with Counts and Kirschner? C'mon man... :roll:

Didnt you guys burn a redshirt, when the others were injured or failed to produce

*injured. Really didn't need to burn it IMO. You can pull 'failed to produce' out of your ass with no supporting evidence if you think it will help your case, but the fact is that there were not depth issues at RB last year. At other positions, yes - not RB. But as a typical Cat fan, I'm sure you will not admit you are full of it.

You had Moore, a the little fumble fingers guy, after that you didn't have anything worth shit, Moore went down and your lack of "quality" depth showed

Sure dude. The Griz were third in rushing and third in total offense ---ahead of MSU in both categories--because of quality. That was without Dan Moore for most of the season. What was MSU's excuse?
That fat chick from Frenchtown was the 8th best rusher in the Big Sky. Peter Nguyen had more yards.

 

[NLGrizFan]

And a d-backfield that had more leaks than the Iraqi Navy.

and despite that leaky defensive backfield the Griz were in every game they played and a QB away from winning all of them. Those kids all have a season under their belts now and will be improved. Couple that with the best D Line and LB corps in the conference, and a QB who will win the close games. #9 may be too low and the Griz will spank your kitties in bozo.........Again! :lol:

I agree. What many do not understand, is that in FCS football, very few teams have the depth to go two-deep at every position, like the FBS schools do. As the season progresses and injuries decimate every team, Montana loses very little playing their bench players. The Bobcats do not have our depth, and it shows as the season wears on. The exception, of course, was at the QB position last season. I was not a fan of Nate Montana, but we would have won at least two, and many more games last season if he had not transferred. We are well-stocked depth-wise at most every other position.

Good analysis, but you still have your head up your ass (or in the sand) to a certain degree, the 2012 version of the fizz was the first time in several years that I noticed a deficiency in depth, It was apparent not only at the QB position, but at RB, WR and in the secondary, I would also say that while you had a decent first level at LB, but you didn't have much behind them. I suspected that might happen when I noticed Pflu's recruiting strategies in his first year, the 2012 5-6 season was impacted more by that than by the loss of JJ, and the 2013 team will still be affected by depth deficiencies.

Also conversely I MSU is now able to field much better depth than they have in several years, remember that when Ash first arrived he MSU was down several scholarships due to APR, that and good recruiting have made a difference in depth.

The reason why FBS has much more depth than FCS is about 22 scholarships, that means one more scholarship player at each position.

Spoken like a true scat stool. Go away.

 

[Cats2506]

Didnt you guys burn a redshirt, when the others were injured or failed to produce

*injured. Really didn't need to burn it IMO. You can pull 'failed to produce' out of your ass with no supporting evidence if you think it will help your case, but the fact is that there were not depth issues at RB last year. At other positions, yes - not RB. But as a typical Cat fan, I'm sure you will not admit you are full of it.

You had Moore, a the little fumble fingers guy, after that you didn't have anything worth shit, Moore went down and your lack of "quality" depth showed

Sure dude. The Griz were third in rushing and third in total offense ---ahead of MSU in both categories--because of quality. That was without Dan Moore for most of the season. What was MSU's excuse?
That fat chick from Frenchtown was the 8th best rusher in the Big Sky. Peter Nguyen had more yards.

Are you really that stupid, never said anything about your OL, In fact I think they were a pretty good bunch BTW that is someting that everyone agrees MSU was lacking last year. As for why CK didn't have a higher rushing total, well the simple answer is depth, remember that is the subject we are talking about after all. You see when you have several players at a position that are quality, they rotate a lot and no single player gets all the stats, that is how depth works.

:thumb:

 

[EverettGriz]

Only IQ25.06 could take a ridiculously stupid argument -- that msu had more depth at RB than Montana -- and somehow make it even dumber.

 

[griz4life]

Are you really that stupid, never said anything about your OL, In fact I think they were a pretty good bunch BTW that is someting that everyone agrees MSU was lacking last year. As for why CK didn't have a higher rushing total, well the simple answer is depth, remember that is the subject we are talking about after all. You see when you have several players at a position that are quality, they rotate a lot and no single player gets all the stats, that is how depth works.

:thumb:

UM averaged 237 rushing yards per game in conference, while its leading rusher averaged 97 yards a game and had 117 carries (conference only).
MSU averaged 179 rushing yards per game in conference, while its leading rusher averaged 96 yards a game on 104 carries (conference only).
So after Nguyen, Montana's rushers put up 140 yards a game.
After Kirk, MSU's rushers put up 83 yards.

For the year, Montana had 369 carries. Montana State had 362 carries. Not much difference there.
Who has the better depth? Take your time coming up the the answer and don't be afraid to move your lips while you do the math if it helps.

 

[ilovethecats]

Take your time coming up the the answer and don't be afraid to move your lips while you do the math if it helps.

:lol:

 

[Cats2506]

Are you really that stupid, never said anything about your OL, In fact I think they were a pretty good bunch BTW that is someting that everyone agrees MSU was lacking last year. As for why CK didn't have a higher rushing total, well the simple answer is depth, remember that is the subject we are talking about after all. You see when you have several players at a position that are quality, they rotate a lot and no single player gets all the stats, that is how depth works.

:thumb:

UM averaged 237 rushing yards per game in conference, while its leading rusher averaged 97 yards a game and had 117 carries (conference only).
MSU averaged 179 rushing yards per game in conference, while its leading rusher averaged 96 yards a game on 104 carries (conference only).
So after Nguyen, Montana's rushers put up 140 yards a game.
After Kirk, MSU's rushers put up 83 yards.

For the year, Montana had 369 carries. Montana State had 362 carries. Not much difference there.
Who has the better depth? Take your time coming up the the answer and don't be afraid to move your lips while you do the math if it helps.

Dont need time, look at the OL's not the RB's, you will find the answer

 

[reinell30]

Are you really that stupid, never said anything about your OL, In fact I think they were a pretty good bunch BTW that is someting that everyone agrees MSU was lacking last year. As for why CK didn't have a higher rushing total, well the simple answer is depth, remember that is the subject we are talking about after all. You see when you have several players at a position that are quality, they rotate a lot and no single player gets all the stats, that is how depth works.

:thumb:

UM averaged 237 rushing yards per game in conference, while its leading rusher averaged 97 yards a game and had 117 carries (conference only).
MSU averaged 179 rushing yards per game in conference, while its leading rusher averaged 96 yards a game on 104 carries (conference only).
So after Nguyen, Montana's rushers put up 140 yards a game.
After Kirk, MSU's rushers put up 83 yards.

For the year, Montana had 369 carries. Montana State had 362 carries. Not much difference there.
Who has the better depth? Take your time coming up the the answer and don't be afraid to move your lips while you do the math if it helps.

Dont need time, look at the OL's not the RB's, you will find the answer

OL, Danny Kitsler/ALL AMERICAN!

 

[uofmman1122]

Are you really that stupid, never said anything about your OL, In fact I think they were a pretty good bunch BTW that is someting that everyone agrees MSU was lacking last year. As for why CK didn't have a higher rushing total, well the simple answer is depth, remember that is the subject we are talking about after all. You see when you have several players at a position that are quality, they rotate a lot and no single player gets all the stats, that is how depth works.

:thumb:

UM averaged 237 rushing yards per game in conference, while its leading rusher averaged 97 yards a game and had 117 carries (conference only).
MSU averaged 179 rushing yards per game in conference, while its leading rusher averaged 96 yards a game on 104 carries (conference only).
So after Nguyen, Montana's rushers put up 140 yards a game.
After Kirk, MSU's rushers put up 83 yards.

For the year, Montana had 369 carries. Montana State had 362 carries. Not much difference there.
Who has the better depth? Take your time coming up the the answer and don't be afraid to move your lips while you do the math if it helps.

Dont need time, look at the OL's not the RB's, you will find the answer

I thought we were talking about RB depth, or are you conveniently changing the subject because you realized you're full of shit? :lol:

 

[Cats2506]

Are you really that stupid, never said anything about your OL, In fact I think they were a pretty good bunch BTW that is someting that everyone agrees MSU was lacking last year. As for why CK didn't have a higher rushing total, well the simple answer is depth, remember that is the subject we are talking about after all. You see when you have several players at a position that are quality, they rotate a lot and no single player gets all the stats, that is how depth works.

:thumb:

UM averaged 237 rushing yards per game in conference, while its leading rusher averaged 97 yards a game and had 117 carries (conference only).
MSU averaged 179 rushing yards per game in conference, while its leading rusher averaged 96 yards a game on 104 carries (conference only).
So after Nguyen, Montana's rushers put up 140 yards a game.
After Kirk, MSU's rushers put up 83 yards.

For the year, Montana had 369 carries. Montana State had 362 carries. Not much difference there.
Who has the better depth? Take your time coming up the the answer and don't be afraid to move your lips while you do the math if it helps.

Dont need time, look at the OL's not the RB's, you will find the answer

I thought we were talking about RB depth, or are you conveniently changing the subject because you realized you're full of shit? :lol:

I am not changing the subject, other than to point out that you must be a dUMb ass

 

[Brock Landers]

Lack of depth at RB? You really are the biggest retard on this site, which is an amazing accomplishment. Even fake accounts like Jake have nothing on you

 

[WaGriz4life]

UM averaged 237 rushing yards per game in conference, while its leading rusher averaged 97 yards a game and had 117 carries (conference only).
MSU averaged 179 rushing yards per game in conference, while its leading rusher averaged 96 yards a game on 104 carries (conference only).
So after Nguyen, Montana's rushers put up 140 yards a game.
After Kirk, MSU's rushers put up 83 yards.

For the year, Montana had 369 carries. Montana State had 362 carries. Not much difference there.
Who has the better depth? Take your time coming up the the answer and don't be afraid to move your lips while you do the math if it helps.

Dont need time, look at the OL's not the RB's, you will find the answer

I thought we were talking about RB depth, or are you conveniently changing the subject because you realized you're full of shit? :lol:

I am not changing the subject, other than to point out that you must be a dUMb ass

But how can our O-Line be stronger when you guys have Coach Mac? You guys talk all summer about how great this guy is and then bitch all fall when your o-line is losing every battle.