Are the Cats becoming a dominant program?

[kemajic]

They only had 10K at their first playoff of game in 4 years. Not a dominating sign....

Towson had ~2,100 by comparison.

Wofford 2,100

SE Missouri 5,700

James Madison 7,300

Nichols 8,500

Northern Iowa 4,00

JMU and UNI are both more traditionally powerful programs than Montana State, so I'd say the attendance argument is a dud.

The attendance argument pointed out the weakness in FCS playoff interest, not at MSU. Defensive, a bit?

 

[grizghost]

We wouldn’t even be having this conversation if it weren’t for a fumble on the one yard line. msu surely didn’t dominate UM and lost to all the competition it played that were at the top of the conference. Including ISU. Are NDSU and Alabama dominant? Yes. Are msu and um mediocre? Yes.
Spin it anyway you must but the fact is both Montana schools have a long way to go become “dominant “ and the only thing going for msu is they are beating um.

agree.. :thumb:

 

[poorgriz]

We wouldn’t even be having this conversation if it weren’t for a fumble on the one yard line. msu surely didn’t dominate UM and lost to all the competition it played that were at the top of the conference. Including ISU. Are NDSU and Alabama dominant? Yes. Are msu and um mediocre? Yes.
Spin it anyway you must but the fact is both Montana schools have a long way to go become “dominant “ and the only thing going for msu is they are beating um.

Aaaaand, MSU just beat UIW which tied for their league championship, so there's that too.

 

[grzz]

We wouldn’t even be having this conversation if it weren’t for a fumble on the one yard line. msu surely didn’t dominate UM and lost to all the competition it played that were at the top of the conference. Including ISU. Are NDSU and Alabama dominant? Yes. Are msu and um mediocre? Yes.
Spin it anyway you must but the fact is both Montana schools have a long way to go become “dominant “ and the only thing going for msu is they are beating um.

Aaaaand, MSU just beat UIW which tied for their league championship, so there's that too.

Who is the better team, the Griz or UIW?

 

[poorgriz]

We wouldn’t even be having this conversation if it weren’t for a fumble on the one yard line. msu surely didn’t dominate UM and lost to all the competition it played that were at the top of the conference. Including ISU. Are NDSU and Alabama dominant? Yes. Are msu and um mediocre? Yes.
Spin it anyway you must but the fact is both Montana schools have a long way to go become “dominant “ and the only thing going for msu is they are beating um.

Aaaaand, MSU just beat UIW which tied for their league championship, so there's that too.

Who is the better team, the Griz or UIW?

I don't know about the entire body of work for the season because the griz looked to be inconsistent but comparing just the two games I'd say the griz looked significantly better and played us much better than UIW. Being at home definitely helped.

 

[Bear Spray]

Well, they sure are against the Griz! :thumb:

 

[NativeGriz]

We wouldn’t even be having this conversation if it weren’t for a fumble on the one yard line. msu surely didn’t dominate UM and lost to all the competition it played that were at the top of the conference. Including ISU. Are NDSU and Alabama dominant? Yes. Are msu and um mediocre? Yes.
Spin it anyway you must but the fact is both Montana schools have a long way to go become “dominant “ and the only thing going for msu is they are beating um.

Aaaaand, MSU just beat UIW which tied for their league championship, so there's that too.

Aaaaand UIW (the travel team) was playing without their starting QB and is a warm weather team, though that is not that big of deal when the temps are above 20 degrees.

 

[EverettGriz]

Late to this thread but, uhhhh, fuck no!!

 

[uofmman1122]

After today, I’d say they have a ways to go (as do we).

 

[Eric_Shun]

Late to this thread but, uhhhh, f*** no!!

Yeah, what a joke

 

['68griz]

Cats shouldn't have been in the playoffs anymore than the Griz should have been. Two mediocre teams.

 

[HookedonGriz]

Well their coach is sub .500 after 3 years so they got that going for them.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

One program likes to play Musical HCs since 2009, and the other extended a losing HC a year early, when it could've easily offered the extension after this year. I think the Griz and Bobcats are on equal footing going forward.

 

[bigsky33]

Cats shouldn't have been in the playoffs anymore than the Griz should have been. Two mediocre teams.

The whole conference is mediocre. None anywhere near the Bison

 

[AZGrizFan]

No, the definition of mediocre is the CAA. SIX teams in... ONE advances to the final 8. We’ve got 3 of 4 still alive and looking to be in the final 8. NDSU just piss-pounded our mediocre 4th place team...as was expected.

 

[1972]

It's like when Bobby was asked in the press conference after the Griz Cat game if the Cats deserved to be in the playoffs, his answer, I haven't seen a dominant program all year so I don't know. Pretty much sums it up. He also said we're definitely not a dominant team right now. Game we should have won, but didn't. But the answer is clearly "NO" Choate has lost more games than he has won since he became coach, so I'd say they are an average, maybe a little less team. "We are what our record says we are"

 

[IdaGriz01]

Cats shouldn't have been in the playoffs anymore than the Griz should have been. Two mediocre teams.

The whole conference is mediocre. None anywhere near the Bison

As most on eGriz know, I try to stay low-key and stick to numbers (that's me, a numbers guy), but some comments just beg for a rebuttal:
Have you offered your massive expertise to the NCAA committee? Because they thought the Big Sky deserved three seeded teams, and a home game for a fourth.

Sure, the 'cats got obliterated by NDSU after winning an opening-round game. Was that a surprise? Well, probably not.

But let's look at the other results: Weber doubled-up SEMo, 48-23. EWU obliterated what was supposed to be a pretty good Nicholls team, 42-21. (We've seen Nicholls play, and they are not a bad team.) Right now, UC-Davis is having a bit of trouble with UNI (the Zombie, "rise from the dead team"), being up only 16-6 at the half. Meanwhile the mighty CAA has one team left of the record six playoff bids they got. If that's "mediocrity," then I need to throw out my dictionary.

 

['68griz]

Cats shouldn't have been in the playoffs anymore than the Griz should have been. Two mediocre teams.

The whole conference is mediocre. None anywhere near the Bison

With three (I'm assuming Davis will hang on to win) of the eight quarterfinal teams from the Big Sky, I wouldn't say the conference, as a whole, was mediocre.

 

[IdaGriz01]

Cats shouldn't have been in the playoffs anymore than the Griz should have been. Two mediocre teams.

The whole conference is mediocre. None anywhere near the Bison

With three (I'm assuming Davis will hang on to win) of the eight quarterfinal teams from the Big Sky, I wouldn't say the conference, as a whole, was mediocre.

< ditto > :thumb:

See above.

 

[bgbigdog]

Cats shouldn't have been in the playoffs anymore than the Griz should have been. Two mediocre teams.

The whole conference is mediocre. None anywhere near the Bison

With three (I'm assuming Davis will hang on to win) of the eight quarterfinal teams from the Big Sky, I wouldn't say the conference, as a whole, was mediocre.

Some of us would look at the glass as being half full, others would only have the option of looking @ a shit pond.