Are the BSC referees really that bad??

[Buttegrizzle]

The holding calls, or not, were every bit as bad as the pick up. And to address the thread question, yes the BSC officials are that bad.

 

[Buttegrizzle]

Oh. And while I detest the Cowboys, I'm not sorry to see those ankle stomping, calf kicking SOBs from Detroit lose out. F'n NFL man.

 

[Grisly Fan]

It has to be "indisputable video evidence" to overturn a call. When it takes that long to review a play then it fails the test. I quit watching the NFL a long time ago. Mostly a bunch of crybaby millionaires.

 

[PlayerRep]

It has to be "indisputable video evidence" to overturn a call. When it takes that long to review a play then it fails the test. I quit watching the NFL a long time ago. Mostly a bunch of crybaby millionaires.

The call wasn't overturned. The flag was picked up. No video was watched. A ref with a better view said that there wasn't enough contact to merit a PI call. The head ref agreed. That is what I was saying from the get-go (and before I say what explanation of the head ref)--not enough contact, and not necessarily initiated by the defender (it looked mutual to me). Yes, the "process" by the head ref was not good, and he admitted that, but I still think the non-call was the right call.

If there had been no flag thrown, there wouldn't be much grumbling now, is my view. It was a close call, and a judgment call. There is more contact between defenders and receivers on virtually every play, and much of the time there is no PI call. This one was close, and it looked, to many, that there was in fact more contact and interference because of the way the receiver stumbled backwards and fell.

 

[Umista]

As much as the NFL charges me to watch these games on TV.... I suggest they hire three more refs to police the games. The cost is small and if three is not enough make it an even dozen refs on the field. That way they outnumber the players on each team. If this does not make the games perfect then lets use robots to ref the games.

Finally a perfectly played game.

Just thought I'd be an ass and start out 2015 rapping the refs, players and fans!

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

At least they have never screwed a team over like they did Detroit, and have never gifted a game to a team like they did Dallas. F the NFL!!!!!

You mad bro??

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

They got away with the exact same thing against Seattle earlier this year and it was the difference in the game. Seattle would have been in scoring position and put the game away. Detroit was rolling as well and probably wins the game if not for that call.

The cowboys handled Seattle soundly...that game wasn't even as close as the score would have you believe.

 

[Allezchat]

Kind of scared here because.....I agree with everything PR said.

That happened with over 8 minutes left....8 minutes. They did not lose because of that call.

 

[MsMaroon]

Kind of scared here because.....I agree with everything PR said.

That happened with over 8 minutes left....8 minutes. They did not lose because of that call.

And - as Colin Cowherd pointed out this morning - they had 1 yard to go to convert a 4th down and they chose to punt???? :shock: Really?? They didn't have one single play in their playbook that would get them a yard?? Detroit beat themselves pure and simple.

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

Kind of scared here because.....I agree with everything PR said.

That happened with over 8 minutes left....8 minutes. They did not lose because of that call.

And - as Colin Cowherd pointed out this morning - they had 1 yard to go to convert a 4th down and they chose to punt???? :shock: Really?? They didn't have one single play in their playbook that would get them a yard?? Detroit beat themselves pure and simple.

Exactly..Cowboys played to win and pushed the cause by converting 3 huge 4th down calls in the 2nd Half...the Lions took the chicken shit route and played not to lose.

 

[NativeGriz]

They got away with the exact same thing against Seattle earlier this year and it was the difference in the game. Seattle would have been in scoring position and put the game away. Detroit was rolling as well and probably wins the game if not for that call.

The cowboys handled Seattle soundly...that game wasn't even as close as the score would have you believe.

IMO, the cowgals don't even make the playoffs without some ref help and they certainly don't win yesterday if they didn't have help. I agree 100% the gals outplayed the Hawks early in the season when Hawks were still dealing with Harvin/Tate BS and they were minus a couple of pro bowl defenders.

I also agree 1 call does not determine a game (in most cases) but can if the call is at a specific time in the game, like when Sea beat GB a couple of years ago. In the games where the refs assisted the gals, Lions and Hawks both had momentum, the lead and were moving down the field before the mysterious no call in Seattle and the dumb founding flag pick up yesterday. That said, I am thankful-I did not want Seattle to play a hot Lions team. If the gals can some how beat GB, then Seattle will get another shot against dallas with a much healthier D. I would much rather play the gals again. Especially since Romo dropped some incentive in the post game interview by saying the Lions were by far the best D they have played all year. Sorry Brint, I have to say it. Go cowgals, beat GB.

 

[grizd]

They got away with the exact same thing against Seattle earlier this year and it was the difference in the game. Seattle would have been in scoring position and put the game away. Detroit was rolling as well and probably wins the game if not for that call.

The cowboys handled Seattle soundly...that game wasn't even as close as the score would have you believe.

IMO, the cowgals don't even make the playoffs without some ref help and they certainly don't win yesterday if they didn't have help. I agree 100% the gals outplayed the Hawks early in the season when Hawks were still dealing with Harvin/Tate BS and they were minus a couple of pro bowl defenders.

I also agree 1 call does not determine a game (in most cases) but can if the call is at a specific time in the game, like when Sea beat GB a couple of years ago. In the games where the refs assisted the gals, Lions and Hawks both had momentum, the lead and were moving down the field before the mysterious no call in Seattle and the dumb founding flag pick up yesterday. That said, I am thankful-I did not want Seattle to play a hot Lions team. If the gals can some how beat GB, then Seattle will get another shot against dallas with a much healthier D. I would much rather play the gals again. Especially since Romo dropped some incentive in the post game interview by saying the Lions were by far the best D they have played all year. Sorry Brint, I have to say it. Go cowgals, beat GB.

Ugh. A Seahawks fan talking about bad calls. The Seahawks beat the Pack on the last play of the game. The Lions had a 4th and 1 from the 40ish yard line. If Caldwell has stones the Lions win. He doesn't, they lost, deal with it people. Face it, any team in the league has had it's fair share both ways.

 

[NativeGriz]

They got away with the exact same thing against Seattle earlier this year and it was the difference in the game. Seattle would have been in scoring position and put the game away. Detroit was rolling as well and probably wins the game if not for that call.

The cowboys handled Seattle soundly...that game wasn't even as close as the score would have you believe.

IMO, the cowgals don't even make the playoffs without some ref help and they certainly don't win yesterday if they didn't have help. I agree 100% the gals outplayed the Hawks early in the season when Hawks were still dealing with Harvin/Tate BS and they were minus a couple of pro bowl defenders.

I also agree 1 call does not determine a game (in most cases) but can if the call is at a specific time in the game, like when Sea beat GB a couple of years ago. In the games where the refs assisted the gals, Lions and Hawks both had momentum, the lead and were moving down the field before the mysterious no call in Seattle and the dumb founding flag pick up yesterday. That said, I am thankful-I did not want Seattle to play a hot Lions team. If the gals can some how beat GB, then Seattle will get another shot against dallas with a much healthier D. I would much rather play the gals again. Especially since Romo dropped some incentive in the post game interview by saying the Lions were by far the best D they have played all year. Sorry Brint, I have to say it. Go cowgals, beat GB.

Ugh. A Seahawks fan talking about bad calls. The Seahawks beat the Pack on the last play of the game. The Lions had a 4th and 1 from the 40ish yard line. If Caldwell has stones the Lions win. He doesn't, they lost, deal with it people. Face it, any team in the league has had it's fair share both ways.

Read everything before you post next time, it will help you respond more intelligently....maybe.

 

[Liquor up front!]

I wonder what the Director of Officials thinks of that 'pass interference' call? I have a feeling he won't be toting the company/playerrep line. It only takes one official to ruin a great game!

 

[grizpack]

I read earlier that the Head Ref for the NFL said it should have been PI. I didn't see it but the ref also said that the Cowboy receiver that ran on the field to argue with the ref without his helmet on should have been flagged for unsportsmanlike conduct. I will see if I can find the link again.

 

[grizpack]

Here it is.

http://espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/story/_/id/12124549/dean-blandino-holding-call-missed-vs-dallas-cowboys-lb-anthony-hitchens" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

 

[Chester Cheetah]

I wonder what the Director of Officials thinks of that 'pass interference' call? I have a feeling he won't be toting the company/playerrep line. It only takes one official to ruin a great game!

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000454572/article/dean-blandino-picking-up-flag-was-debatable" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

 

[Raider]

Saturday night I had some spicy Mexican food, and drank too many beers.

I had blowout diarrhea yesterday.

 

[PlayerRep]

I read earlier that the Head Ref for the NFL said it should have been PI. I didn't see it but the ref also said that the Cowboy receiver that ran on the field to argue with the ref without his helmet on should have been flagged for unsportsmanlike conduct. I will see if I can find the link again.

This isn't accurate. See the linked interview with the NFL Head Ref above (and below the quoted post). He didn't say it should have been PI and he didn't say the player who came on the field should have been flagged. He said both could have gone either way. Said the contact was the defender's hand to the receiver's shoulder, but asked it that materialially interfered with the catch. In my view, it clearly didn't, because the ball hit the defender in the back. Said he would have preferred that the flag remained, but, again, didn't say it was PI. Said the ref who had the better view said what he say, and the guy who through the flag decided to pick it up. Said the process should have been better. Said the helmet rule applies only to players playing in the game at the time. Said defensive holding should have been called on the jersey grab.

I still say that it was not PI, because the only contact was the hand to the shoulder, and that didn't materially interfere with the receiver's ability to catch the ball. This is what I thought initially and upon looking at the relays multiple times. Not enough contact to merit PI, and now i also know that the contact has to materially interfere with the ability to catch the ball. Agree that the process was bad.

 

[PlayerRep]

Here it is.

http://espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/story/_/id/12124549/dean-blandino-holding-call-missed-vs-dallas-cowboys-lb-anthony-hitchens" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This article isn't quite accurate either, I don't think. Look at the other link, which has the interview with the NFL Head Ref.