Another QB we didn't recruit

[RoseyMustGo]

I agree, but still one has to question our coaching staff's ability to evaluate high school QB talent, compared to other Big Sky staffs. Obviously we were "out-recruited" at the QB position in those days, comparing who we signed at that position to those signed by EWU. There was even another QB that EWU signed from a small Oregon high school that was a 2-3 year starter there, and who was first-team All-Conference. I can't remember his name off-hand.

UPDATE: I did some research, and his name was Gage Gubrud. He was a 2016 All-American.

https://goeags.com/sports/football/roster/gage-gubrud/6273

Rumor mill: https://247sports.com/Player/Carson-May-46102478/

He also had ZERO D-1 offers and walked on at EWU. Besides. Anyone who had Cooper Kupp to throw to is automatically disqualified. Try again.

And your point is??? I thought our coaches were paid to evaluate recruits? We signed Berquist when he had zero other offers. Gubrud is from McMinnville, OR, in the heart of our recruiting area, yet we were not able to properly evaluate him??? Did our coaching staff even know of him? Did they offer him a preferred walk-on opportunity like EWU did?
Oh, we flamed on Cooper Kupp also, who wanted to come here. Not much argument supporting our recruiting efforts, huh?

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Holy crap Rosie. You do realize that recruiting has limited resources and no school can recruit everyone.

 

[uptopgriz]

Holy crap Rosie. You do realize that recruiting has limited resources and no school can recruit everyone.

Coaches that use effectively use social media to highlight players recruit kids that may be hidden. The budget excuse in an era of social medial prominence is lame. Hauck dosen't embrace it himself or allow players to embrace it and it hurts recruiting.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Holy crap Rosie. You do realize that recruiting has limited resources and no school can recruit everyone.

Coaches that use effectively use social media to highlight players recruit kids that may be hidden. The budget excuse in an era of social medial prominence is lame. Hauck dosen't embrace it himself or allow players to embrace it and it hurts recruiting.

Did I say the budget was the only limited resource?

 

[uptopgriz]

Coaches that use effectively use social media to highlight players recruit kids that may be hidden. The budget excuse in an era of social medial prominence is lame. Hauck dosen't embrace it himself or allow players to embrace it and it hurts recruiting.

Did I say the budget was the only limited resource?

My point is that the budget has nothing to do with it.

 

[garizzalies]

McMinnville, OR, in the heart of our recruiting area

Boy if this is true, we really do have a problem

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Did I say the budget was the only limited resource?

My point is that the budget has nothing to do with it.

And my point is that there are limited recruiting resources, so it is impossible and impractical to assume that a staff can recruit every kid. Decisions have to be made on how to direct those limited resources, so complaining about a kid that walked-on at EWU and turned out to be pretty good is a useless metric.

 

[uptopgriz]

My point is that the budget has nothing to do with it.

And my point is that there are limited recruiting resources, so it is impossible and impractical to assume that a staff can recruit every kid. Decisions have to be made on how to direct those limited resources, so complaining about a kid that walked-on at EWU and turned out to be pretty good is a useless metric.

A computer, the internet, and dynamic recruits is all that's needed to establish relationships. Pretty damn cheap if you have a coach that embraces it. Hoe embracing the portal and communicating that to players? Like highlighting the players the Griz have had that went on to bigger programs as result of being developing in their program instead of having the mindset "get out of her if you don't to be here."

 

[mthoopsfan]

And my point is that there are limited recruiting resources, so it is impossible and impractical to assume that a staff can recruit every kid. Decisions have to be made on how to direct those limited resources, so complaining about a kid that walked-on at EWU and turned out to be pretty good is a useless metric.

A computer, the internet, and dynamic recruits is all that's needed to establish relationships. Pretty damn cheap if you have a coach that embraces it. Hoe embracing the portal and communicating that to players? Like highlighting the players the Griz have had that went on to bigger programs as result of being developing in their program instead of having the mindset "get out of her if you don't to be here."

The Griz have been doing that for decades. That doesn't result of full evaluation of ability, potential, character, family, etc. You have to spend time with them and ideally watching them.

 

[uptopgriz]

A computer, the internet, and dynamic recruits is all that's needed to establish relationships. Pretty damn cheap if you have a coach that embraces it. Hoe embracing the portal and communicating that to players? Like highlighting the players the Griz have had that went on to bigger programs as result of being developing in their program instead of having the mindset "get out of her if you don't to be here."

The Griz have been doing that for decades. That doesn't result of full evaluation of ability, potential, character, family, etc. You have to spend time with them and ideally watching them.

:lol: :lol: :lol: Hoops were you one of the last holdouts with your Blockbuster membership?

 

[wbtfg]

You are a liar. Tru had no FBS offers. It had nothing to with grades. I will check on Wilson. And EWU did bring in multiple low academic players UM wouldn’t, with Prop 38 or whatever it was called.

While Tru had no FBS offers, did any fbs show interest? I'd think at least some calls.

Either way, we were fortunate to have him and Jimmy Wilson.

I might be misremembering this, as it was a long time ago, but wasn't trumaine johnson primarily a WR coming out of HS? I think he was a decent WR out of HS, probably not good enough to get FBS offers, but someone on Hauck's staff had a great eye that Tru could be developed into a big time cornerback.

 

[uptopgriz]

A computer, the internet, and dynamic recruits is all that's needed to establish relationships. Pretty damn cheap if you have a coach that embraces it. Hoe embracing the portal and communicating that to players? Like highlighting the players the Griz have had that went on to bigger programs as result of being developing in their program instead of having the mindset "get out of her if you don't to be here."

The Griz have been doing that for decades. That doesn't result of full evaluation of ability, potential, character, family, etc. You have to spend time with them and ideally watching them.

The Griz offered a full scholarship to a player from Missoula who they spent many hours with them and his family. It wasn't until one of his social media accounts became public that an unacceptable part of his character was revealed.

 

[mthoopsfan]

The Griz have been doing that for decades. That doesn't result of full evaluation of ability, potential, character, family, etc. You have to spend time with them and ideally watching them.

The Griz offered a full scholarship to a player from Missoula who they spent many hours with them and his family. It wasn't until one of his social media accounts became public that an unacceptable part of his character was revealed.

UM was aware of the comment on the internet at the time it became fully public. That didn't disqualify the kid. That wasn't deemed to be unacceptable when it was revealed late in the prior fall. The resistance that grew later in the year, and after the Kaiman article, and that increased instead of decreased, is what caused the scholarship to go away in the summer.

 

[uptopgriz]

The Griz offered a full scholarship to a player from Missoula who they spent many hours with them and his family. It wasn't until one of his social media accounts became public that an unacceptable part of his character was revealed.

UM was aware of the comment on the internet at the time it became fully public. That didn't disqualify the kid. That wasn't deemed to be unacceptable when it was revealed late in the prior fall. The resistance that grew later in the year, and after the Kaiman article, and that increased instead of decreased, is what caused the scholarship to go away in the summer.

UM became aware of it when it was posted online. His scholarship was pull immediately. Bobby tried covering it up that he was still going to be part of the team.

 

[mthoopsfan]

UM was aware of the comment on the internet at the time it became fully public. That didn't disqualify the kid. That wasn't deemed to be unacceptable when it was revealed late in the prior fall. The resistance that grew later in the year, and after the Kaiman article, and that increased instead of decreased, is what caused the scholarship to go away in the summer.

UM became aware of it when it was posted online. His scholarship was pull immediately. Bobby tried covering it up that he was still going to be part of the team.

The coaches advised to lie low and not actively engage, and it would all work out. It didn't work out later in the summer.

 

[uptopgriz]

UM became aware of it when it was posted online. His scholarship was pull immediately. Bobby tried covering it up that he was still going to be part of the team.

The coaches advised to lie low and not actively engage, and it would all work out. It didn't work out later in the summer.

Yep, they should have outfront with the issue and demonstrated leadership. The youngman made a mistake but still should be part of the program. If Bobby would have handled right he would be.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

And my point is that there are limited recruiting resources, so it is impossible and impractical to assume that a staff can recruit every kid. Decisions have to be made on how to direct those limited resources, so complaining about a kid that walked-on at EWU and turned out to be pretty good is a useless metric.

A computer, the internet, and dynamic recruits is all that's needed to establish relationships. Pretty damn cheap if you have a coach that embraces it. Hoe embracing the portal and communicating that to players? Like highlighting the players the Griz have had that went on to bigger programs as result of being developing in their program instead of having the mindset "get out of her if you don't to be here."

Once again, you are fixated on money, which is not the only limited resource.

 

[uptopgriz]

A computer, the internet, and dynamic recruits is all that's needed to establish relationships. Pretty damn cheap if you have a coach that embraces it. Hoe embracing the portal and communicating that to players? Like highlighting the players the Griz have had that went on to bigger programs as result of being developing in their program instead of having the mindset "get out of her if you don't to be here."

Once again, you are fixated on money, which is not the only limited resource.

No, a dynamic recruiter is the most important part.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

The coaches advised to lie low and not actively engage, and it would all work out. It didn't work out later in the summer.

Yep, they should have outfront with the issue and demonstrated leadership. The young man made a mistake but still should be part of the program. If Bobby would have handled right he would be.

I don't believe this to be true. I am not saying Bobby did the right thing, but it really wasn't going to matter what Bobby did or didn't do, it wasn't going to work out, it was out of Bobby's ultimate control.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Once again, you are fixated on money, which is not the only limited resource.

No, a dynamic recruiter is the most important part.

Which once again doesn't address that there are still limited resources.