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Analysis of MSU v. UNM Game on Saturday

mthoopsfan

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With no Griz game this week, I've paid some attention to the Cats' game v. New Mexico. I posted this on a UNM message board earlier today. While there have been a number of Cat posters on the site, none have commented on my post yet. Interesting. See below. This is link to the New Mexico message board. https://foreverlobos.com/board/1/unm-football-fanatics

My analysis, from afar, is that UNM is more than going to give MSU a game. I don’t get the huge point spread. Of course, don’t spreads develop over time from which side the bets are on, and not from experts?

The Cats are known for having a number of delusional fans who always think their team and their players are all-world, especially earlier in the season. This isn’t most Cat fans, just a number of the big talkers on the internet and in bars. The joke at egriz (Montana’s message board) is that some of these Cat fans declare their team pre-season national champions every year.

The Cats appear to be good and have some depth. Their qb is terrific. He’s smart, very fast, and elusive. He can really hurt you when he runs or scrambles, and he throws okay or better on the run. He has not been a good or consistent drop back passer, except when he throws jump balls down the sidelines to big receivers. He doesn’t get sacked much. In the past 2 seasons, he has usually had to run a lot to generate offense, and did run a lot, and was usually very effective. However, he has gotten hurt and missed some games, due to the pounding he sometimes takes. MSU has had a very good backup qb, who was also a terrific and harder runner, for the past 2 years. He could replace Mellott, without much drop-off. It was a luxury for the Cats. He’s graduated now. While the Cats say they are developing a good new backup, he will not be able to run like those two did.

There is talk that the Cats may be developing more of a short passing game, which they have not used, to try to take the physical pressure off Mellott, i.e. the pounding. I think they have a couple transfer receivers. I don’t know anything about them.

The Cats have had good o-lines in recent years, and expect to have another this season. Their center, who is out, is very good, but the guy replacing him is a former center and a very good lineman. He’s just shifted over. I think Perkins has been hurt all camp, so the other guy has done all the practicing. This shouldn’t hurt the Cats, unless the replacement at the other vacated position is a bit weaker. Their lineman are mobile. They’re a bit bigger this year, having been on the smaller side in the past. They know how to block very well for their scheme, tho.

Your defense is going to have to be disciplined and not make mistakes or step or lean the wrong way. Perhaps UNM playing Air Force will help in facing the Cats. Montana didn’t have the right scheme two years ago, made many mistakes from the first play of the game, and got clobbered. Last year, UM had a new DC (who went to the Dolphins in offseason) and a defensive analyst who is a former Griz, 13 years in NFL, the coach’s brother, and a great football mind. He is now the co-DC with another good co-DC. The new D scheme and its execution pretty much shut down the Cats last season. 1-10 on 3d down conversions and 0-4 on 4th down conversions, and very few completed passes. I assume Bronco and his coaches know some of the Montana, or other Big Sky, coaches and have talked to them to prepare.

Bronco isn’t going to let his team beover-confident. I’m sure he’s told the team about recent Big Sky success over the MW, as well as his first game loss to Richmond at Virginia. So, MSU isn’t going to catch UNM sleeping. And being able to bring in a bunch of players from the Portal makes it much easier for a new coach to get more good players in place in his first year, compared to the old days. Sure, players have to get used to playing with each other, but I can’t imagine the UNM team and transfers are not going to be fired up not to be embarrassed in their first game with a new coach, who is a big time coach.

I can’t imagine that the 5 big transfer o-linemen, from places like USC, are going to let the Cats push them around. Your corners look very good. Your backers and d-lineman, as well as secondary, will have to be disciplined and not be fooled into taking the wrong half step or lean. It looks like your O has nice speed. I’m not yet sold on the Cat D yet, and they weren’t great last year, but who knows. I’ll have to watch some games.

While I generally don’t make game predictions, even though I always think my team can win, I do pick against the Cats from time to time, like this time. I look forward to watching the game. Good luck.
 
cats D gave up about 22 points a game last year. NM scored about 28 points a game last year.

I am not buying an improved cat defense, but I actually think their offense might be better this season - even without Chambers. TM's health is obviously key...

NM will be a better team than last season.

I think cats score in low 30s...can their defense hold NM to mid-high 20s?
 
My analysis, from afar, is that UNM is more than going to give MSU a game. I don’t get the huge point spread. Of course, don’t spreads develop over time from which side the bets are on, and not from experts?

The Cats are known for having a number of delusional fans who always think their team and their players are all-world, especially earlier in the season. This isn’t most Cat fans, just a number of the big talkers on the internet and in bars. The joke at egriz (Montana’s message board) is that some of these Cat fans declare their team pre-season national champions every year.
Yes exactly. The huge point spread is 100% the result of loud-mouthed bub fans which we know all too well. They are mostly degenerates who would much rather invest in some bubcat fantasy than their own kid’s college. I think a lot of them dropped small amounts on this game early, like $50-$100, just to say they are believers, but a few of the biggest degens are betting the deed to their home to cover, and did so late, and that’s why this line keeps going up and up. They are really drinking the koolaid. It shows how doubly dumb they are—not only are they betting with their heart and not brain, but they are also very late to the bookie when the line is now double-digits. Smh.
I asked my neighbor if he was one of these super-degens who is betting his farm to cover (and doing so late) but he would not admit to it out of shame. All he would say is that he’s got some “juice” on it. I could see in his eye tho that he is having buyer’s remorse and will not sleep tonight.
Next week, you could see tons of for sale signs on boy toys, trailers, boats, and jacked up rigs with truck nutz in the parking of every Safeway across the state
 
Seems to me everyone feels the cats will roll them. I mean it’s a 12 point spread which is a huge spread. Think of it this way if they were faced up with Portland State the spread would not even be that big. All signs point to a big cat win, which will have those idiots thumping their chest that they beat an FBS team, even though it’s one of the lowest ranked FBS team in all of FBS (122 of 134)
 
First games of the season are usually full of mistakes. Whoever makes the least mistakes will win. Otherwise, I think this will be a close game. UNM is tough to plan for with the new coaching staff and so many new players. Bronco is a good coach and will have his team ready. Also, the heat may play a factor in the game with the Cats. I think the betting line is crazy.
 
What is the narrative if the Lobos are victorious?
Haha. Two posts later, the excuses started rolling in:
First games of the season are usually full of mistakes. UNM is tough to plan for with the new coaching staff and so many new players. Bronco is a good coach and will have his team ready. Also, the heat may play a factor in the game with the Cats.
If lobos win, it certainly won’t be because they were the better team lol
 
I’m sure it will be about how banged up they are as I think they are down Davis, Perkins and Polidore. Though the pollsters have an interesting choice to make since they are heavy favorites at this time.
Add in some stuff about how the Lobos are very underrated and how the Bubbies held their own against a very solid FBS team.
 
With 5 or 6 players out, the shank squad returning as their place kickers, a very talented but also very injury-prone QB and no proven backup, and a new sheriff in Albuquerque that just wins no matter where he coaches, BYU, UVA, named " Bronco," arguably one of the greatest first names for any head college ball coach, plus 100 degree heat, I just don't think the Shi##y Kitties go into New Mexico and roll the Lobos.

If the SK's were healthy, I would like their chances a lot better. ( When we beat UDUB in 2021, we were healthy.) When an FCS team has as many starters out as the SK's do, and other starters then forced to play out of position as a result or backups used, any FCS teams chances vs. an FBS team drop considerably because the difference in depth in that scenario usually matters, it's s 63 scholies vs. 85.

If the SK's win this game, I think it's by the skin of their teeth !!!
 
I’m going to try and be as realistic with the game as I can be.

Reasons I’m not feeling the Cats will walk away victorious. First and most importantly, I am needed to be onsite to manage a project at work tomorrow… already off to a poor start. Second, Cats may just get out performed with athleticism. Last years Lobos, I say Cats roll, with Bronco as a coach, he definitely did not being in 60 scrubs or individuals with poor character.

This will be a hungry team looking to make a statement against their FCS foe. I’m thinking close game either way but leaning towards New Mexico. I’ll swear a few times, curse the coaches, say ‘how hard is it to….’ a few times and then reset for the following week.
 
I’m going to try and be as realistic with the game as I can be.

Reasons I’m not feeling the Cats will walk away victorious. First and most importantly, I am needed to be onsite to manage a project at work tomorrow… already off to a poor start. Second, Cats may just get out performed with athleticism. Last years Lobos, I say Cats roll, with Bronco as a coach, he definitely did not being in 60 scrubs or individuals with poor character.

This will be a hungry team looking to make a statement against their FCS foe. I’m thinking close game either way
but leaning towards New Mexico. I’ll swear a few times, curse the coaches, say ‘how hard is it to….’ a few times and then reset for the following week.
Your post is pretty unbiased. And, of course, none of really what NM has now, and the Cats have yet to play and show what they have. I'm looking forward to the game. I like the Cat team, just of the delusional and troll posters.
 
I’m going to try and be as realistic with the game as I can be.

Reasons I’m not feeling the Cats will walk away victorious. First and most importantly, I am needed to be onsite to manage a project at work tomorrow… already off to a poor start. Second, Cats may just get out performed with athleticism. Last years Lobos, I say Cats roll, with Bronco as a coach, he definitely did not being in 60 scrubs or individuals with poor character.

This will be a hungry team looking to make a statement against their FCS foe. I’m thinking close game either way but leaning towards New Mexico. I’ll swear a few times, curse the coaches, say ‘how hard is it to….’ a few times and then reset for the following week.
Well - they do have sane fans. Perhaps only 1, but it's something.
 
Unfortunately the cats are in a position where Tommy is their game. If he goes down, that could spell disaster. I don’t know much on UNM but it seems like both teams have a lot to prove with new players and staff. Hope it’s a good game.

Game is on FS1 for TV if anyone is wondering. FS1 is available on most streaming services including SlingTV and FuboTV.
 
Unfortunately the cats are in a position where Tommy is their game. If he goes down, that could spell disaster. I don’t know much on UNM but it seems like both teams have a lot to prove with new players and staff. Hope it’s a good game.

Game is on FS1 for TV if anyone is wondering. FS1 is available on most streaming services including SlingTV and FuboTV.
Can confirm it’s on Hulu live.
 
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