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After the Valpo game

After the Valpo game, do you feel more or less confident about this team

  • More Confident

    Votes: 43 42.6%
  • Less Confident

    Votes: 58 57.4%

  • Total voters
    101
spsyk said:
AZGrizFan said:
spsyk said:
AZGrizFan said:
did you watch the game? They were in 3 deep zone just about every time they got burned for a long play. What, exactly, is it that you'd like the coaches to "adapt" to? This offense looks almost nothing like Stitt's offense at Mines. Not ONE fly sweep Saturday. Kept Horner/Simis in to block almost every passing play.


How many fly sweeps have been run in the last two years ?

Kind of my point. He's adapted his offense significantly. In large ways.


Not to be a smart ass, did that significantance pertain to last year ???


Not sure where you're going, but suffice it to say, the offense Stitt is famous for hasn't really been seen at all here....which would imply that he's adapted his thought process.
 
AZGrizFan said:
spsyk said:
AZGrizFan said:
spsyk said:
How many fly sweeps have been run in the last two years ?

Kind of my point. He's adapted his offense significantly. In large ways.


Not to be a smart ass, did that significantance pertain to last year ???


Not sure where you're going, but suffice it to say, the offense Stitt is famous for hasn't really been seen at all here....which would imply that he's adapted his thought process.


I can say that I have witnessed more than a few games of coach Stitts when I was spending some time in Golden,Co. and it sure resembles what I'm seeing now, what he is famous for is his "fly sweep" which an offensive play, not an offense.

And if you can point out what has change in his offense since he has been here up to now, I would like to know what it is.
 
spsyk said:
AZGrizFan said:
spsyk said:
AZGrizFan said:
Kind of my point. He's adapted his offense significantly. In large ways.


Not to be a smart ass, did that significantance pertain to last year ???


Not sure where you're going, but suffice it to say, the offense Stitt is famous for hasn't really been seen at all here....which would imply that he's adapted his thought process.

I can say that I have witnessed more than a few games of coach Stitts when I was spending some time in Golden,Co. and it sure resembles what I'm seeing now, what he is famous for is his "fly sweep" which an offensive play, not an offense.

And if you can point out what has change in his offense since he has been here up to now, I would like to know what it is.

Correction: He is famous for the "Stitt sweep" where the pitch is forward. If it is botched it is then an incomplete pass rather than a fumble. It is simply a shovel pass with receiver motion across the middle. Some think it is revolutionary. If so then I am not sure why the Griz don't run it more often.
 
Grisly Fan said:
spsyk said:
AZGrizFan said:
spsyk said:
Not to be a smart ass, did that significantance pertain to last year ???


Not sure where you're going, but suffice it to say, the offense Stitt is famous for hasn't really been seen at all here....which would imply that he's adapted his thought process.

I can say that I have witnessed more than a few games of coach Stitts when I was spending some time in Golden,Co. and it sure resembles what I'm seeing now, what he is famous for is his "fly sweep" which an offensive play, not an offense.

And if you can point out what has change in his offense since he has been here up to now, I would like to know what it is.

Correction: He is famous for the "Stitt sweep" where the pitch is forward. If it is botched it is then an incomplete pass rather than a fumble. It is simply a shovel pass with receiver motion across the middle. Some think it is revolutionary. If so then I am not sure why the Griz don't run it more often.

The innovation is the pitch forward, and subsequent incomplete pass if it's missed/dropped rather than resulting in a fumble. And, as has been noted here and elsewhere many times, it's not run often because if it's overused it is fairly easy to defend, but its motion (without pitching the ball forward) is used often to diagnose a defense's coverage scheme. Not to mention that it gets JLM out in space, in motion, for a quick throw or wheel route (if the defender is coming up too hard to try to stop him behind the LOS). It is not, and has never been, the entire Bob Stitt offense. For that matter, neither is a dependence on bubble screens--it just seemed like it last year when BG kept checking into them. JLM got to be a bit too much of a security blanket for his own good.
 
spsyk said:
AZGrizFan said:
spsyk said:
AZGrizFan said:
Kind of my point. He's adapted his offense significantly. In large ways.


Not to be a smart ass, did that significantance pertain to last year ???


Not sure where you're going, but suffice it to say, the offense Stitt is famous for hasn't really been seen at all here....which would imply that he's adapted his thought process.


I can say that I have witnessed more than a few games of coach Stitts when I was spending some time in Golden,Co. and it sure resembles what I'm seeing now, what he is famous for is his "fly sweep" which an offensive play, not an offense.

And if you can point out what has change in his offense since he has been here up to now, I would like to know what it is.

Run vs pass play selection percentage
Use of H-back as blocker more and more
Lack of Fly Sweep play being run at ALL
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
PlayerRep said:
Don't think any passes were thrown to the H backs in the last game.

Pretty hard to catch passes when the Griz were in max protect most of the game, keeping the H into block.

Do you consider keeping in the H receiver to block as "max protect"?
 
AZGrizFan said:
spsyk said:
AZGrizFan said:
spsyk said:
Not to be a smart ass, did that significantance pertain to last year ???


Not sure where you're going, but suffice it to say, the offense Stitt is famous for hasn't really been seen at all here....which would imply that he's adapted his thought process.


I can say that I have witnessed more than a few games of coach Stitts when I was spending some time in Golden,Co. and it sure resembles what I'm seeing now, what he is famous for is his "fly sweep" which an offensive play, not an offense.

And if you can point out what has change in his offense since he has been here up to now, I would like to know what it is.

Run vs pass play selection percentage
Use of H-back as blocker more and more
Lack of Fly Sweep play being run at ALL

Symantecs, run vs pass, % inconsequential, still running plays as seen before, lack of fly sweep, why that is why he is famous.
Changing the % of run vs pass isn't changing the offense.

Using an H-back as a blocker, well if he isn't running a route as a diversionary, then as a blocker, nothing new there.

All in all pretty much the same offense witness since his inception @ the U, and no change from School of Mines, with the exception of better athletes.
 
spsyk said:
AZGrizFan said:
spsyk said:
AZGrizFan said:
Not sure where you're going, but suffice it to say, the offense Stitt is famous for hasn't really been seen at all here....which would imply that he's adapted his thought process.


I can say that I have witnessed more than a few games of coach Stitts when I was spending some time in Golden,Co. and it sure resembles what I'm seeing now, what he is famous for is his "fly sweep" which an offensive play, not an offense.

And if you can point out what has change in his offense since he has been here up to now, I would like to know what it is.

Run vs pass play selection percentage
Use of H-back as blocker more and more
Lack of Fly Sweep play being run at ALL

Symantecs, run vs pass, % inconsequential, still running plays as seen before, lack of fly sweep, why that is why he is famous.
Changing the % of run vs pass isn't changing the offense.

Using an H-back as a blocker, well if he isn't running a route as a diversionary, then as a blocker, nothing new there.

All in all pretty much the same offense witness since his inception @ the U, and no change from School of Mines, with the exception of better athletes.

Fine. I give up. :roll: :roll:
 
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