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Adam Brzeck

I thought Adam should have gotten the change to play more last year, I know he had a long TD run vs Idaho St.
 
JayLarson said:
I thought Adam should have gotten the change to play more last year, I know he had a long TD run vs Idaho St.

Yeah but heck, I could've had a long run vs ISU last year.
 
ALPHAGRIZ1 said:
You can change mechanics all day long. You are either accurate or you are not.

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Agree with Alpha here. I teach shooting for the Air Force. What makes a good shooter is doing everything with consistency. However, if you are consistenly crappy, you will remain consistently crappy. The same applies to a QB and there mechanics. You can change your machanics and improve your accuracy thru repetition in the short game, but when it comes down to streching the field, I believe you either got or you don't. McKinney can throw the ball along ways, just can't throw it to anyone. JJ's arm was not very strong for long throws either, remember against' Sam houston his last pass to jabin, one foot short.
 
OptimusPrime said:
BWahlberg said:
I'm with BDizzle here, I think TMac is working like crazy to get his passing game improved.

Additionally I've been hearing GREAT compliments towards Brady Gustafson by current and outgoing players on the team.

I don't think we'll have an overly dynamic QB this year, but even with Trent and Brady I'd be willing to bet the team is in better shape at QB than many assume.
I would assume it would be less read-option with Brady in there?

Ohhh yeah, Gustafson (esp with Brzczeck gone) is really the only QB that has good mid/deep accuracy and a strong arm. It's not the same level but when I saw Brady playing in the system he looked like how Brock Osweiler did at ASU. Was mobile but not looking to run much but create space with his feet. In fall camp I saw him keep a zone read and run in a TD (against the freshman defense though). He'll make stuff happen with his legs but he's not going to pile up the rushing yards.
 
BWahlberg said:
OptimusPrime said:
BWahlberg said:
I'm with BDizzle here, I think TMac is working like crazy to get his passing game improved.

Additionally I've been hearing GREAT compliments towards Brady Gustafson by current and outgoing players on the team.

I don't think we'll have an overly dynamic QB this year, but even with Trent and Brady I'd be willing to bet the team is in better shape at QB than many assume.
I would assume it would be less read-option with Brady in there?

Ohhh yeah, Gustafson (esp with Brzczeck gone) is really the only QB that has good mid/deep accuracy and a strong arm. It's not the same level but when I saw Brady playing in the system he looked like how Brock Osweiler did at ASU. Was mobile but not looking to run much but create space with his feet. In fall camp I saw him keep a zone read and run in a TD (against the freshman defense though). He'll make stuff happen with his legs but he's not going to pile up the rushing yards.


If he can throw accurately and with power, than with all the receivers we have, he shouldn't have to rush much.
 
Good. The kid thought he would tear it up at UM, but he hardly played, and thought he was above the program - overriding play calls wasn't a good idea.
 
Alpha...That moronic comment has officially disqualified you from ever contributing anything of value to a conversation regarding athletics...ever...wow...just wow

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stubbins said:
havgrizfan said:
sucks but if he didnt win the job this year, and the griz got a much-needed player due to his partial, then im ok with it.


all the other qb's could've died and AB wouldn't win the job this year because of the old f***[*] running this ship....

Good move by him...not going to play because of an inept, old, stubborn coach, might as well set yourself up for life with a degree from stanford.
+1
 
AZGrizFan said:
grizatwork said:
I honestly think the things that McKinney lacks as a quarterback are not things that can be fixed by extensive effort. His downfield accuracy will not get that much better. I think either you have it or you don't. I think that SSH has a better chance of improving. His issue was more arm strength than anything. That can improve with training. If accuracy could improve a lot with practice, Tim Tebow would have started for the Jets this year.

Disagree completely. We don't need McKinney to hit 50 yard bombs for this team to be successful....and he showed the ability (just a lack of consistency) to hit the short and medium range passes last year. We DO, however, need a QB that can run to make this offense even remotely effective and SSH runs like he's got cement shoes on.

Implying that a QB can't improve mechanics would mean that you're as good at throwing a ball out of HS as you're ever going to get. Not true. We have no idea what he was taught in HS, or if he was even taught/coached regarding mechanics in HS. SSH is NOT the future of this team. Period.

We are going to have to agree to disagree then. McKinney did not show the ability to hit anything but a swing pass. He was innaccurate on a 7 hard hitch. He was worse on the out patterns. I just did not see him able to make the passes needed. We need to get over the idea that we need a "dual threat" quarteback to run the spread. The spread comes in many varieties and does not need a running quarterback to run it. I would rather have a smart, strong armed quarterback that can make all the throws and has the ability to keep a defense honest with the threat of a mid range to down field throw than what we had last year.
 
grizatwork said:
AZGrizFan said:
grizatwork said:
I honestly think the things that McKinney lacks as a quarterback are not things that can be fixed by extensive effort. His downfield accuracy will not get that much better. I think either you have it or you don't. I think that SSH has a better chance of improving. His issue was more arm strength than anything. That can improve with training. If accuracy could improve a lot with practice, Tim Tebow would have started for the Jets this year.

Disagree completely. We don't need McKinney to hit 50 yard bombs for this team to be successful....and he showed the ability (just a lack of consistency) to hit the short and medium range passes last year. We DO, however, need a QB that can run to make this offense even remotely effective and SSH runs like he's got cement shoes on.

Implying that a QB can't improve mechanics would mean that you're as good at throwing a ball out of HS as you're ever going to get. Not true. We have no idea what he was taught in HS, or if he was even taught/coached regarding mechanics in HS. SSH is NOT the future of this team. Period.

We are going to have to agree to disagree then. McKinney did not show the ability to hit anything but a swing pass. He was innaccurate on a 7 hard hitch. He was worse on the out patterns. I just did not see him able to make the passes needed. We need to get over the idea that we need a "dual threat" quarteback to run the spread. The spread comes in many varieties and does not need a running quarterback to run it. I would rather have a smart, strong armed quarterback that can make all the throws and has the ability to keep a defense honest with the threat of a mid range to down field throw than what we had last year.
:clap:
 
griz5700 said:
Good. The kid thought he would tear it up at UM, but he hardly played, and thought he was above the program - overriding play calls wasn't a good idea.
He could have tore it up with half a chance...coaches have their favorites and he was not one. Much like when Brandon Neill was here.
 
casewinter13 said:
Alpha...That moronic comment has officially disqualified you from ever contributing anything of value to a conversation regarding athletics...ever...wow...just wow

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You really think you can teach accuracy?
 
griz5700 said:
Good. The kid thought he would tear it up at UM, but he hardly played, and thought he was above the program - overriding play calls wasn't a good idea.
Good point. Unless you're a Peyton Manning or a Colin Kaepernick, leave the play calling to the coaches. After all, they're the ones who will lose their jobs, not you. Adjustments to a play, ok, but for example deciding to go for it on 4th down instead of the punt the coaches call for, forget it.

What a QB is allowed & not allowed to do should be very clear between a coach & a QB before a season ever starts.
 
rgrizfan said:
griz5700 said:
Good. The kid thought he would tear it up at UM, but he hardly played, and thought he was above the program - overriding play calls wasn't a good idea.
He could have tore it up with half a chance...coaches have their favorites and he was not one. Much like when Brandon Neill was here.

He had his chance to show the coaches and the team what he could do and he screwed it up.
 
griz5700 said:
rgrizfan said:
griz5700 said:
Good. The kid thought he would tear it up at UM, but he hardly played, and thought he was above the program - overriding play calls wasn't a good idea.
He could have tore it up with half a chance...coaches have their favorites and he was not one. Much like when Brandon Neill was here.

He had his chance to show the coaches and the team what he could do and he screwed it up.
Yes he did...he scored a TD on what looked like a read option....
 
Hey, I have an idea. Let's have a long debate about whether or not Adam Brzeczek should have played more last year. Whaddya say, guys?
 
AllWeatherFan said:
Hey, I have an idea. Let's have a long debate about whether or not Adam Brzeczek should have played more last year. Whaddya say, guys?

Way too short of time to debate on it, needs at least 48 hours solid.
 
BWahlberg said:
AllWeatherFan said:
Hey, I have an idea. Let's have a long debate about whether or not Adam Brzeczek should have played more last year. Whaddya say, guys?

Way too short of time to debate on it, needs at least 48 hours solid.

Oh well, at least I spelled his name right!
 
Whether he had a chance and blew it or was never given a chance is irrelevant at this point. He has apparently made his decision and I wish him well in his future endeavors.

As far as McKinney vs. whoever, time will tell. I do believe you can improve mechanics and with that improve accuracy. What I saw a number of times last year was that McKinney's problem was not accuracy as much as loft and touch. He seemed to feel that he could thread the proverbial needle on many of his passes rather than putting a little more air under them. That certainly can be improved with mechanics and practice.
 
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