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Academically, which school is tougher?

milehighgriz said:
puzzledinmt wrote:
"I have seen many graduates from both UM & MSU and I'd have to say I am more impressed with quality of MSU Students accross the board. The UM graduates seem to cheat in life & on the outside more than the MSU grads."

The above statement from puzzledinmt is a typical CSU graduate quote. Most CSU graduates are arrogant, and have no idea what they are talking about. They just talk to hear themselves talk.
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milehigriz, I don't know about you, but my sides are splitting. Aren't you glad you got out of bed to say that?

I take umbrage with your statement.

I attended CSU from 1957-1962, obtaining my degree in 1962. My two oldest brothers are graduates of CU. I also attended the University of Colorado from 1955-'57 & obviously am quite familiar with both CU & CSU. CU & MU are very similar in general atmosphere, while MSU & CSU are similar much in the same ways. I honestly believe my education at CSU was far superiior than that received at CU. Students at CU, like MU have an arrogance about them that is quite unsettling.

I owned a business here in Montana for 22 years and those MSU graduates & student interns who joined my firm all were outstanding colleagues with well developed & self-starting attitudes of work-productivity. MU grads who interviewed at my firm had "the world owes me a job" attitudes and none were ever hired. Off hand I would say that my impression is one of MSU doing a first rate job and MU serving up batches of arrogance pie!

milehighgriz, I'm not really good with hecklers, but a friend who is good with hecklers wrote something down for me. Oh, yeah, "Go screw yourself!"
 
puzzledinmt said:
I owned a business here in Montana for 22 years and those MSU graduates & student interns who joined my firm all were outstanding colleagues with well developed & self-starting attitudes of work-productivity. MU grads who interviewed at my firm had "the world owes me a job" attitudes and none were ever hired. Off hand I would say that my impression is one of MSU doing a first rate job and MU serving up batches of arrogance pie!
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puzzled. If you never hired a UM grad how can you have any clue to their 1. productivity, 2. work abilities, 3. attitudes, 4. aptitude 5. etc. My father work for over 30 years at one of Montana's premier firms. During that time they hired many msu and UM grads. (I’m guessing over 200). Explain to me why the middle and senior management positions are filed predominately with UM grads,

Being a UM grad and having been active with the University since 1977, I have come in contact with hundreds of UM grads over the past 25 years and have yet to meet anyone who "felt the world owes me a job".
 
puzzledinmt sent this to me in a private message:

You make me wish I'd donated to Planned Parenthood

That was a pretty good joke in the eGriz.com discussion board, kid. What are you trying to do, top your parents?




How puzzling; can someone please solve this riddle!

I have a great idea for you puzzledinmt, please act like the professional you are making yourself out to be. I feel bad for you and your company. The policy you have developed for your company is astonishing. To make such a generalized statement about UM(not MU) graduates is a poor way to run a firm. Why don't you move back to Colorado, Montana does not need people like you.
 
Good to see you again, back in men's clothing, EastCoast Griz!

EastCoastGriz, apparently spelling and the use of proper grammar was not either of the prerequisites of your graduation from UM. Were you in the special class at school?

I think that is pathetic enough!

I know a good many UM graduates (as well as graduates from other schools) who think the world owes them a living. I even know some who also excelled in criminal acts, embezzled funds and served time in our Federal Prisons - all graduates of UM. When they failed to succeed the legal way most of us do they sought other ways. I suppose these people exist from every college & university, but these stick out in my mind.

This is my job. I don't come into McDonalds' and give you a hard time when you're at work.
 
puzzledinmt said:
EastCoastGriz, apparently spelling and the use of proper grammar was not either of the prerequisites of your graduation from UM. Were you in the special class at school?

That’s one of the great aspects of a message board, lack of formality. Good grammar and proper spelling are not required. Just type and go.

I think that is pathetic enough!

Pathetic seems to be a pretty good description for someone posting on this thread. Maybe you could address the post instead of attacking the poster.

I even know some who also excelled in criminal acts, embezzled funds and served time in our Federal Prisons - all graduates of UM.

Are there UM grads in prison? Although I don’t know of any personally, it would be reasonable to assume there are some. Are there msu grads in prison? Again, although I don’t know of any personally, it would be reasonable to assume there are some. Tell me puzz, what the prison population is of UM and msu grads.
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Its time to end this thread.

Its gotten personal enough and I don't want to say anything that will get me banned from this board.

I am sorry if I have inadvertently offended anyone by any of my joking humor. Some people here can't seem to tell the difference.

We are too far off the original topic which was to ascertain a comparison of the relative education quality & toughness of either MSU or UM.
 
puzzledinmt said:
Its time to end this thread.

Its gotten personal enough and I don't want to say anything that will get me banned from this board.

We are too far off the original topic which was to ascertain a comparison of the relative education quality of either MSU or UM.
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Bravo puzz - run and hide. We would hate for you to have to back up your wide accusations with any facts.
 
Puzzledinmt,

I, as well as the majority of my family are graduates of MSU. Please keep your mouth shut. Or I guess I should say, put your brain to bed and your keyboard away. You are doing MSU Grads no justice. You are actually embarrassing.
 
EastCoastGriz said:
puzzledinmt said:
Its time to end this thread.

Its gotten personal enough and I don't want to say anything that will get me banned from this board.

We are too far off the original topic which was to ascertain a comparison of the relative education quality of either MSU or UM.
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Bravo puzz - run and hide. We would hate for you to have to back up your wide accusations with any facts.
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EastCoastGriz, I really don't like your attitude - you sound like those A$$h@les from the Eastern seaboard who think they know everything. As a matter of fact you aren't worth my time!

But the whole fact is I was seeking opinions by those in the know about the caliber of education at UM & MSU. My vote, based on my limited experience goes to MSU, but that is based wholly on certain fields of study.
 
monthoops said:
Puzzledinmt,

I, as well as the majority of my family are graduates of MSU. Please keep your mouth shut. Or I guess I should say, put your brain to bed and your keyboard away. You are doing MSU Grads no justice. You are actually embarrassing.
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monthoops, I don't much care for you either.

I thought I was fairly complimentary towards your MSU graduates - I think you need to re-read my posts.

I was asking for qualified opinions as to the "quality of education" obtainable from either school, since my own experience was somewhat limited.

monthoops, I'm sorry, I don't speak alcoholic. Find somebody else!
 
ballhogz said:
puzzledinmt, I certinly don't have a monopoly on humor, but at least you enjoy your limited amount. Go Griz!
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I'm glad you saw into it ballhogz!

They don't refer to me as a minimalist for nothing! LOL

Some of these people are just laying in wait, for a reason to attack, and the best way to deflect such attacks is by injecting some degree of humor. Its too bad their intellect is insufficient to ever see it!

They really shouldn't drink on empty heads.
 
puzzledinmt said:
EastCoastGriz, I really don't like your attitude - you sound like those A$$h@les from the Eastern seaboard who think they know everything. As a matter of fact you aren't worth my time!

But the whole fact is I was seeking opinions by those in the know about the caliber of education at UM & MSU. My vote, based on my limited experience goes to MSU, but that is based wholly on certain fields of study.
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puzz- let me help you out here. I have spent the vast majority of my life in Montana. Graduated from high school in Great Falls, my family still lives in Great Falls. Only recently have I relocated to the East Coast.

Don’t expect to come on a University focused message board and expect a free pass when you make statements like:

1. UM graduates seem to cheat in life & on the outside more than the MSU grads

2. msu graduates & student interns who joined my firm all were outstanding colleagues while UM grads who interviewed at my firm had "the world owes me a job" attitudes and none were ever hired

3. I know a good many UM graduates (as well as graduates from other schools) who think the world owes them a living. I even know some who also excelled in criminal acts, embezzled funds and served time in our Federal Prisons - all graduates of UM.

In addition, your personal attack when questioned about your post leaves you NO creditability. Statements like:

1. EastCoastGriz, I really don't like your attitude - you sound like those A$$h@les from the Eastern seaboard who think they know everything. As a matter of fact you aren't worth my time!

2. I think that is pathetic enough! (Referring to my spelling and grammar) .

If you want "opinions as to the "quality of education" obtainable from either school", then ask direct questions and not the BS you've posted so far.
 
puzzledinmt said:
EastCoastGriz, apparently spelling and the use of proper grammar was not either of the prerequisites of your graduation from UM.
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I never bust on people for spelling and grammar errors on a message board, but does anyone find it ironic that Puzzled completely butchered this sentence?

I assume what you meant was "...apparently neither spelling nor the use of proper grammar was a prerequisite for your graduation from UM," right Puzz?

Way to represent your school, Puzz. I'm not going to take up the gauntlet for UM vs. MSU; I think they're both fine schools, but I will say that based on this thread alone, I am glad I did not pay out of state tuition for CSU.
 
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